Deceased/Not Found TN - Joseph "Joe Clyde" Daniels, 5, Dickson, 3 Apr 2018 *autistic* *arrests* #2

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  1. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    https://eu.tennessean.com/story/new...ph-krystal-trial-date-pushed-back/2745582002/


    Chris Gadd Nashville Tennessean
    Published 3:26 PM EST Feb 1, 2019
    CHARLOTTE, Tenn. -- The murder trial for Joseph Daniels and wife Krystal Daniels was delayed Friday due to attorneys still waiting for final DNA evidence test results.

    District Attorney Ray Crouch requested a continuance for the trial, which was scheduled to start next month, and the defense attorneys agreed.

    Jury selection is now scheduled to begin Feb. 3, 2020. A trial date has not yet been made public. The jury will be chosen from outside Dickson County.


    And no further court dates...
     
  2. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Evidence testing key to delay of Joe Clyde criminal trial

    The DNA testing on the blood evidence will be crucial. In addition, we've learned there is some new physical evidence to be tested.
    And, who knows, with another year until trial, it's possible that Joe Clyde's remains could still be found. That would certainly help make the prosecution's case.

    "The state needs to give the jury a theory of the entire case. He killed the child and this is how he disposed of the child," said Todd.

    The twelve-month delay of the trial leaves the window open for more things to develop, potentially more evidence to surface.
     
  3. MsMarple

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    I'm eagerly awaiting the DNA results, especially on the blood found on his pants and in the truck.

    I have a hunch that between now and February 2020 one of the parents will turn on the other. IMO with a no-body case and few forensic results Krystal is biding her time to see what happens with Joseph's charges.

    IOW, if the DA can't come up with enough evidence for murder charges for Joseph then Krystal has a strong argument to get her charge of neglect lowered in order to make a plea deal. But if the DNA results come back as Joe Clyde's blood or other evidence pops up then she may turn on Joseph in exchange for a lesser charge.

    I dunno, that's just my opinion for now. I wish both parents would come clean and tell the truth. If one or both did murder Joe Clyde (and that's where I lean) then it's crappy that they're okay leaving his poor body alone in some desolate place. Great parents, huh? MOO.
     
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    Joe Clyde Daniels: Lack of DNA could make case difficult

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WTVF) — DNA testing on physical evidence will be key in the Joe Clyde Daniels case, but there is a big problem – no one has any of the boy’s DNA.

    DNA evidence was collected from the scene, including traces of blood from the father's pants and his vehicle.

    But here's the problem: Sources confirm there aren’t DNA samples from Joe Clyde, so it's impossible to make any comparisons. He apparently shared a toothbrush with his siblings and with such short hair, he didn't use a comb or brush.

    As a result, there's no way to know if the blood is his or if any other items in evidence can be linked by DNA to the boy.

    Unless investigators come up with Joe Clyde's DNA, much of the physical evidence will be useless at trial. That leaves only the father's now re-canted confession for the prosecution.

    The trial has been postponed until next year.
     
  5. MsMarple

    MsMarple Well-Known Member

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    I get the difficulty of not having a sample of Joe Clyde's DNA - if in fact this is the case - but it seems like there may be options that might sway the judge to allow the blood analysis into evidence.

    For example, LE can obtain Joe Clyde's brother's DNA so why couldn't they eliminate his, Joseph's and Krystal's from the blood, leaving what is extremely likely to be Joe Clyde's DNA? It's not 100% proof but a full-sibling or parent/child match are predictable enough to conclude it's Joe Clyde's. For that matter wouldn't a personal item such as a shoe be a source for a sample?

    DNA analysis has come a long way since OJ's trial. LE has used close matches in the database to track down a sibling, parent or child of a known felon. MOO.

    And who are the "sources" quoted in the article anyway? Certainly not Sheriff Bledsoe.
    Here's what Joseph's lawyer said on February 1:
    Joe Clyde: Joseph, Krystal Daniels trial date pushed back to 2020
     
  6. Gardener1850

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    That doesn't make any sense. They have his biological parents and his biological siblings for comparison and exclusion. They can determine it is his DNA the same way they could identify his body by DNA if it was found tomorrow. DNA tests will show if the blood found is from a child of Joseph and Krystal Daniels and they can also compare to his siblings to show it is their brother's DNA and a profile unique to them. Sure, it's a extra step to explain how they determined it was his DNA, but it's no less reliable than if they had his actual DNA for comparison. MOO.
     

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