Found Safe TN - Mary Catherine Elizabeth Thomas, 15, Maury County, 13 March 2017 #9

[Mom24]

yes, also located a couple phone numbers, and a couple email addresses,

but have not located much info, found a ebay account and a couple web sites he managed.

any idea what he bought on ebay?

 

[ladymoffat]

Sorry if this has been posted already, but the new People has an article on Elizabeth. I'm praying this at least increases national awareness.

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[Deleted member 172065]

Found this quote online:
"Affairs and fantasies are a way to protest adult responsibilities." Atyone else think TC here...
https://psychcentral.com/lib/when-fantasy-crosses-the-line/2/

 

[Dot#5t]

Thanks.
Again IMO the pictures circulating of her and posted on sites need to be updated. The picture (selfie?) in that article could appear to be an adult. The missing pictures of her at like 12 are no longer relevant. People could pass her on the street and not know it.

I strongly agree!



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[Dot#5t]

Since TC was CIA, FBI, mostly BS'D through his whole life. We know what he did research per TBI and LE, am sure there was more which they MUST keep close. He probably searched witness protection, life on the run, how to disappear in america, hiding in plain sight. Cannot belive how many books are on these subjects. How many you think he read?

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Given the length of his suspension before the abduction of ET I'd agree that he had the time to read and research that.


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[Kapua]

Thanks.
Again IMO the pictures circulating of her and posted on sites need to be updated. The picture (selfie?) in that article could appear to be an adult. The missing pictures of her at like 12 are no longer relevant. People could pass her on the street and not know it.

I totally agree!

And once updated, we need to share these pictures with every grocery store and gas station in America - and beyond.

 

[Dot#5t]

Found this quote online:
"Affairs and fantasies are a way to protest adult responsibilities." Atyone else think TC here...
https://psychcentral.com/lib/when-fantasy-crosses-the-line/2/

Spot on!!


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[Mom24]

Cummins is 50 years old
Cummins married his wife in 1985
Cummins told students he was a millionaire and a CIA operative that traveled on secret missions

Elizabeth Thomas is 15
ET is 5'2"
ET is left handed
ET has hazel eyes
ET has a slight lisp
ET has no discernible accent
ET has scars on face

On January 23 a female schoolmate saw TC kiss ET on the lips in the classroom with TC's grandchild in the room "Cummins was inside his classroom after school Jan. 23 with his grandson and Thomas, the girl told family members, when she walked in and inexplicably saw them kissing. Cummins and Thomas were sitting side by side in chairs and kissed on the lips as the grandchild, who also attends Culleoka, was using one of the classroom's computers."
http://www.columbiadailyherald.com/n...izabeth-thomas


January 24th the female student confronted TC about the kiss with another student. TC told the students he was a father figure to ET and she was a "close and best friend". "The 12-year-old seventh-grader went to Cummins the morning of Jan. 24 for an explanation before reporting him, the family said. She wanted to know the nature of his relationship with Thomas."
http://www.columbiadailyherald.com/n...izabeth-thomas
and, "According to his personnel file, when Cummins was confronted, he told two students he was a “father figure” to Elizabeth and saw her as a “close and best friend.” He also said that Elizabeth “had been through a lot and had suffered an abusive home life.”"
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34967126/d...ling-home-life



LE also started an investigation. "The student was "very credible," Maury County Sheriff Bucky Rowland said, setting off an investigation into Cummins' behavior and relationship with students."
http://www.columbiadailyherald.com/n...izabeth-thomas

January 30th school concluded investigation, found no evidence since both ET and TC denied the kiss but ET was removed from class.
January 31 ET's father found out about kiss from Sheriff who was investigating the issue.

January 31 ET's father sent a letter to school expressing concern through his attorney Whatley.
"Whatley says when Mr. Thomas searched Elizabeth’s phone, he found she had been communicating with Cummins. The letter sent Feb. 6 from Whatley to the school also says, “I cannot overemphasize to you the concern we have here.”"
http://wkrn.com/2017/03/19/school-documents-show-relationship-between-cummins-and-thomas/


February 3 TC is reprimanded for having ET in his room. Another teacher said she was in the classroom for over 30mins.
"The teacher would later be reprimanded on Feb. 3 by school principal Penny Love after the girl was seen in Cummins classroom for a little more than half an hour that day. In her letter, Love said the girl being in his classroom was a violation of the principal’s order to him."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tad-cumm...zabeth-thomas/

February 6 TC is suspended for insubordination

March 13 ET tells her sister to call 911 if she isn't home by 6pm
http://abcnews.go.com/US/timeline-al...ry?id=46273578

Other details:

School never informed ET's father of inappropriate contact or of any investigation
http://abcnews.go.com/US/timeline-al...ry?id=46273578

ET was dropped off by friend at Shoney's on March 13th, ET asked friend to instead take her back home, friend refused.
Friend who dropped ET off is not cooperating with LE

"Employees at the Shoney's in Columbia said Thomas was waiting with her bags inside the restaurant on March 13. They said when Tad Cummins pulled up, the teen ran outside leaving her back pack behind."
http://whnt.com/2017/03/24/da-elizab...dissapearance/

School and students refuse to wear green ribbons in support of ET and ET has been called a harlot (per Sister)

TC has two guns (unknown what type) "Authorities say he is armed with two handguns"
http://www.9news.com/news/crime/stat...teen/423257704

ET's phone pinged in Decatur AL March 13 at 3:06pm "A spokesperson for the Decatur, Alabama, police told ABC News by phone that Elizabeth had not been physically seen in or around Decatur and that reports of their whereabouts may have been attributed to a ping from the girl’s cell phone."
http://krvn.com/abc_national/timelin...abcid35882433/

ET was originally reported as a runaway, although her father early on maintained she had been abducted by TC

TC's wife reported him missing.

LE concluded 24 hours after both reported missing that TC and ET were together, so they had a 24 headstart before the Amber Alert was issued. "Thomas, a 15-year-old from Middle Tennessee, disappeared with her ex-teacher, 50-year-old Tad Cummins, on March 13. There have been no confirmed sightings since that day and an Amber Alert was issued the next day"
http://www.9news.com/news/crime/stat...teen/423257704

Amber Alert has not been issued nationwide.

LE believe they may be in Mexico or Central America posing as missionaries.
"Law enforcement in Mexico has been notified of the Amber Alert," Cooper said. "But we don't know how much publicity it's getting and we need people down there to know about this because it's possible that's where they are. Cooper said although authorities don't have any information specifically linking Cummins and Thomas to Mexico, it's possible they made it that far."Because he was a very religious man, very knowledgeable of the Bible, it's possible that he's playing the role of a missionary in that area," Cooper said. "
http://www.al.com/news/huntsville/in..._thomas_u.html

TC took a loan for 4,500. "TBI said Cummins secured a title loan for a personal vehicle and other personal effects several days before his disappearance, netting $4,500 in cash."
http://fox17.com/news/local/tbi-rele...izabeth-thomas

TC searched teen marriages " Cummins researched 'teen marriage' just a few days before he and Elizabeth disappeared. "
http://www.9news.com/news/crime/stat...teen/423257704

TC searched disabling GPS on automobile "Cummins also searched whether police could track his car, a Nissan Rogue, according to TBI."
http://www.al.com/news/huntsville/in..._thomas_a.html

TC took Nissan Rogue, leaving wife with his Jeep which she is unable to drive "He took the car,” Scott said. “And she (Cummins' wife) can’t even drive a stick.”
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news...mins/99515186/

TC told his wife on the morning he disappeared he was going out for a job interview.

TC has an associates degree, was a respiratory therapist, taught forensics, had an alternative certification to teach
"Cummins has held a professional occupational educators license since 2014 in health science. To obtain the license, educators need one year’s work in the field in the past five years and an associate degree."
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news...mins/99515186/

TC has a degree in interdisciplinary studies
"He later returned to school at Tennessee State University while teaching, graduating in 2014 with a degree in interdisciplinary studies"
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news...mins/99515186/


TC's former colleague states TC was a bully and narcissist

TC's former colleague is offering a 5,000 reward

LE is offering a 1,000 reward

There have been no credible sightings of TC or ET since March 13

ET left a bag behind at Shoney's, but it was later gone. The story goes that it was left outside and picked up by someone.
Shoney's had no working surveillance camera (per Sister) and ""We believe for one reason or another she left one of these bags behind and it disappeared later that day," said DA Brent Cooper.Cooper said someone either took the bag or Elizabeth may have come back for it" http://whnt.com/2017/03/24/da-elizab...dissapearance/

ET has wheat and tomato allergies and needs an epi pen.(per Sister)

ET took her sister's bathing suit with her (per Sister)

ET hid from TC when he tried to see her at work. "One of Thomas family lawyers told WKRN that, at some point before the March 13 disappearance, Cummins came into Elizabeth's work place. The teen hid in a bathroom and urged a co-worker to tell the teacher that she wasn't there." http://patch.com/tennessee/nashville...ns-family-says (this was also confirmed by Sister)

ET had been taken from her mother's custody and her father has custody of her.
"Elizabeth is one of 10 children in a single-parent home because her father now has full custody of all of them."
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34967126/d...ling-home-life

ET had formerly been homeschooled, was a freshman in high school and had just started public school.
"She started as a freshman this year, entering the public school system for the very first time."
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34967126/d...ling-home-life

TC was her teacher.
"The high school freshman was in Cummins’ Forensics class at Culleoka Unit School."
http://wkrn.com/2017/03/19/school-documents-show-relationship-between-cummins-and-thomas/

ET's mother was charged with abuse and lost custody.
"“police arrested Elizabeth’s mother, Kimberly Thomas, last year. She was charged with five counts of child abuse and neglect. According to court documents, Kimberly Thomas beat Elizabeth and four of her siblings.”"
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34967126/d...ling-home-life

ET's mother gave an interview.

TC was looking for work in Decatur.
"The Morgan County Sheriff’s department told News 2 they received tips that Cummins was looking for work in the area."
http://wkrn.com/2017/03/24/tbi-no-c...elizabeth-thomas-11-days-after-disappearance/

TC and ET may have stayed in a motel in Decatur the first night
"And in Alabama's Morgan County, the Sheriff's Department said Elizabeth and Cummins may have stayed at a motel in Decatur, reported ABC affiliate WAAY on Thursday."
http://abc13.com/news/family-of-teen-allegedly-kidnapped-elizabeth-must-be-found/1818992/


TC watched shows about living off the grid "Investigators also tell CBS News that Cummins appears to have been planning this for some time by watching survivalist shows."
http://www.ktvq.com/story/34952463/m...eacher-student

TC has no criminal record in the state of TN. "Cummins has no criminal record in the state of Tennessee."
http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/34935506...y-went-missing

I'll be editing this post with sources and such, but is there anything I missed?

Destany Parrish is a former student who TC may have groomed prior to ET, made alone time for the two of them and sang her a love song he'd written. He told us all one day that the office had gotten on to him and that we all had to go back to the lunch room because that's where we're supposed to be anyway," Parrish recalled. "Everybody left and I got my bag and got ready to leave, and he said the office hadn't said anything to him, he just didn't want that many kids in his room. It just ended up being he and I chilling in there. I would go there after school.”
Parrish said she would go to Cummins’ room after school and he would often take her to services at the Destiny Church in Columbia Parrish was 15 at the time, in 2011 she was his student.
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34977042/t...p-with-teacher

"One day, Parrish said Cummins arranged for them to be alone and he sang the lyrics he had written.
One of the lyrics read, "I could swim for a thousand miles in the oceans inside your eyes and never reach the side."
"It was just me and tad. We were in the music room. It was right next to his classroom, and I had learned a new song on the piano," said Parrish. "I was gonna go show him, but he sat down first and played that song, and I started recording a little bit in.
When asked if she felt the song was for her, Parrish said she didn't assume, but looking back, things seem different."
http://www.newschannel5.com/news/for...er-a-love-song

Interview with Thomas family attorneys by Nancy Grace: https://www.podcastchart.com/podcast...-at-school/pop

 

[msphilosopher]

I woke up today extremely bummed that the sighting was not ET / TC.

The silver lining here is that people ARE looking for ET / TC. Barely any sightings regardless of the whether its them would be more concerning because that meant people weren't really looking out for them. Too many sightings would also be detrimental as LE would be consumed by wild goose chases.

The article below stated "[FONT=&quot]David Stamps picked up his daughter in Collierville and stopped at the Shell station for a soft drink. That's where someone saw his 18-year-old daughter, who looks a lot like Elizabeth Thomas." Source: [/FONT]http://www.waff.com/story/35038078/man-arrested-after-mistakenly-thought-to-be-amber-alert-suspect[FONT=&quot]

[/FONT]This is good because it actually looked a lot like her.

This sighting really gives me hope that ET is coming home soon. She's got AA issued and national news coverage.

Elizabeth, we are waiting for your safe return. :heartbeat:

 

[msphilosopher]

Has anyone looked into recent marriage certifications?

These are all public records.

It would be looking for a needle in a hay stack since we are not sure any alias it could be under. Might might be worth it if something sticks out...

 

[Deleted member 155000]

Has anyone looked into recent marriage certifications?

These are all public records.

It would be looking for a needle in a hay stack since we are not sure any alias it could be under. Might might be worth it if something sticks out...

I will take a look at that. But...I feel like when you throw in the possibility they used name variations or false names, it could get tricky. Nevertheless, I'm on it.


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[indianwin2001]

I'm heading to a doctor's appointment this morning and trying to speed catch up, but one thing I did want to say is this:

Many of us check here frequently, or park here waiting for updates. Not every poster can do that. So I think it's REALLY important that we don't unintentionally ignore those posters who come here and post " old news", and say that they are alerting friends and family to be on the look out. We want as many people aware and on the lookout as is possible, even if a sighting in a certain area turns out to be a false lead. I would like to see us all be mindful of that and thank and encourage EVERY new poster we see here to spread the word.

ETA: This is badly worded because I'm running late this morning. Sorry. But you guys get my point, I'm sure.

Kat--After reading what happened to that guy from yesterday I have a word of advice for you. When you go to the doctors,don't park in a Krystal parking lot

 

[msphilosopher]

I will take a look at that. But...I feel like when you throw in the possibility they used name variations or false names, it could get tricky. Nevertheless, I'm on it.


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Thank you! I am happy to help as well.

Ways to narrow down the search:
- Tennessee (and surrounding states, most likely southern states)
- Timeframe - March 13 & onward
- Similar names ( Ex. Tim & Maria )
- Super generic last names (Mr. & Mrs. Smith ... etc.)

Any other ideas?

 

[ThatGeminiGuy]

Long time lurker, first time poster (Hello everybody)

Maybe I've been watching to much Law and Order SVU but why aren't they holding this friend that dropped off E.T for questioning? She could be the key they need to finding them.

 

[indianwin2001]

Long time lurker, first time poster (Hello everybody)

Maybe I've been watching to much Law and Order SVU but why aren't they holding this friend that dropped off E.T for questioning? She could be the key they need to finding them.

First of all welcome. I totally agree with you--She is a minor and has stopped co-operating with LE. I also think she IS the key to where they went but she seems to be more of a friend to TC than ET---JMO

 

[MsMtOlympus]

Long time lurker, first time poster (Hello everybody)

Maybe I've been watching to much Law and Order SVU but why aren't they holding this friend that dropped off E.T for questioning? She could be the key they need to finding them.

:welcome:

Welcome ThatGeminiGuy! That person is a minor, perhaps LE doesn't want to come off as strongholding a teenager and are trying to come up with more sensitive ways to get her to cooperate. I agree with you though, that angle needs to be ramped up if possible.

 

[Deleted member 155000]

Thank you! I am happy to help as well.

Ways to narrow down the search:
- Tennessee (and surrounding states, most likely southern states)
- Timeframe - March 13 & onward
- Similar names ( Ex. Tim & Maria )
- Super generic last names (Mr. & Mrs. Smith ... etc.)

Any other ideas?

Thanks! These are along the lines of what I have been looking at. Will update you in a little bit.


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[indianwin2001]

:welcome:

Welcome ThatGeminiGuy! That person is a minor, perhaps LE doesn't want to come off as strongholding a teenager and are trying to come up with more sensitive ways to get her to cooperate. I agree with you though, that angle needs to be ramped up if possible.

While I understand what you are saying,with her being a minor, if LE thinks she knows more than what she is saying, sensitivity to the girl is not important at this point. ET must be brought home at any cost,even if the minor must be put through the ringer to co-operate. Also,LE should put pressure on the parents to co-operate also. Now if they have tried this and she just still clams up,than not much they can do---at the moment.

 

[Deleted member 155000]

Thank you! I am happy to help as well.

Ways to narrow down the search:
- Tennessee (and surrounding states, most likely southern states)
- Timeframe - March 13 & onward
- Similar names ( Ex. Tim & Maria )
- Super generic last names (Mr. & Mrs. Smith ... etc.)

Any other ideas?

Tad can be a shortened form of Thaddeus or Thomas (not saying it is here), so those names as well as Thad and Tom could possibly be variations he'd try to use.



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[indianwin2001]

My thoughts, too. I've requested to be added so I'll let you know if anyone responds.

I requested last night and crickets