Found Deceased TN - Riley Strain, 22, missing after leaving bar, Nashville, 8 March 2024 #2

[MassGuy]

I’m sorry if this has already been discussed but I can’t remember reading if he had Life 360 on the phone and if anyone knew what % of his battery was left.

Apparently he did, which gave them his last known location. There’s no word about battery life though, and we’d likely know via the family if they had that information.

Son visiting Nashville on college trip disappears

 

[Dre]

I used to speak the best Spanish of my life while blackout drunk, so the response to the officer means nothing to me beyond the fact he didn’t have an obvious wound after that terrible impact on the concrete.

To this day the only person I’ve known to have been roofied was a frat bro who annoyed a bartender in downtown Minneapolis, so the “conspiracy” doesn’t feel as much like one to me.

the only thing I feel sure of at this point is that he’s in the river

I hope his family gets answers very quickly, I can’t imagine the indefinite search of a loved one

 

[DeDee]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1769774970291224777

Riley's footsteps fall silent after speaking to the officer. I think he veered to the right to walk in the grass. When the officer turns around, Riley isn't in sight.

In the Brain Entin interview posted earlier, the family spokesman said Riley texted his last message to his new GF after she texted asking how he was doing and if he was having a good time. Riley texted her: Good lops.

UrbanDictionary tells me that lop means "A big brain way of saying lol"

What do you guys make of this text message?

 

[ohiobuckeyegirl]

I find it hard to believe that debit card was there for 8 days. No way all the homeless in the area of the river and even tourists and locals weren't on the riverbank, let alone searchers and it went unnoticed over a week. There are people all up and down that river. Why haven't the police asked to speak to/identity the people he got into the altercation with? Why aren't they giving the reason he was thrown out of the bar? Why hasn't bar footage been released? This whole thing is weird IMO

 

[Sarahsk8s]

There's an asterisk on everything. ones that are sold outside of the US still have the feature. moo

Interesting!! I’m in Canada.

 

[MassGuy]

I find it hard to believe that debit card was there for 8 days. No way all the homeless in the area of the river and even tourists and locals weren't on the riverbank, let alone searchers and it went unnoticed over a week. There are people all up and down that river. Why haven't the police asked to speak to/identity the people he got into the altercation with? Why aren't they giving the reason he was thrown out of the bar? Why hasn't bar footage been released? This whole thing is weird IMO

As for the card, have you seen how much trash is there?

There apparently was not an altercation, and police are still looking for witnesses. We did hear about “a commotion,” which was the description of him stumbling into some bushes or something.

Police have given the reason he was thrown out of the bar, but the family friend didn’t want to talk about it.

The bar isn’t going to release that video to the public, and the police have no reason to. The family has seen it however, and they aren’t pushing for its release. What matters is what came after.

 

[Seni]

Those of you looking at maps, did our man Riley take a left when he should have taken a right? Or vice versa. Problem is we dont know how he arrived from hotel and the detours he may have taken on his way.

 

[caradana]

I find it hard to believe that debit card was there for 8 days. No way all the homeless in the area of the river and even tourists and locals weren't on the riverbank, let alone searchers and it went unnoticed over a week. There are people all up and down that river. Why haven't the police asked to speak to/identity the people he got into the altercation with? Why aren't they giving the reason he was thrown out of the bar? Why hasn't bar footage been released? This whole thing is weird IMO

Ton of trash on that embankment. Helps to look at pictures available on social of the site. Credit to the two brave women who went through it - MOO, one would imagine concerns about used needles, organic material, prophylactics, even fentanyl residue … those were two awesome and committed searching ladies with strong stomachs. This wasn’t like a debit card on the grassy hillside of Central Park here. This was debris of homelessness and poverty and broken windows theory.

 

[ohiobuckeyegirl]

As for the card, have you seen how much trash is there?

There apparently was not an altercation, and police are still looking for witnesses. We did hear about “a commotion,” which was the description of him stumbling into some bushes or something.

Police have given the reason he was thrown out of the bar, but the family friend didn’t want to talk about it.

The bar isn’t going to release that video to the public, and the police have no reason to. The family has seen it however, and they aren’t pushing for its release. What matters is what came after.

Did you see the beginning of the video? Looks to me like an altercation and like he's being grabbed.
I didn't hear of a reason he was thrown out, just that it wasnt due to fighting.
I realize there is trash, but you would think that things would have been looked at during the search to see if anything belonged to him. Doesn't make sense to do a search if you're not going to look at what you find.

 

[branmuffin]

Thoughts:

-The narrative of Riley's frat brother's being forced to stay to pay a tab or something, it not present here. He just says the friend who went with Riley to the door, went back inside. I wonder if the plan was to meet up with Riley at the nearby bar he tried and failed to gain entry to.

-Doesn't want to specifically say why Riley was thrown out, but it wasn't for fighting.

-Riley may have thought the men in the food truck altercation were chasing him. Even if true, he calmly passed the police officer later on, so that doesn't factor in to what happened in my mind. Extraneous.

-The debit card not being dirty doesn't bother me in the slightest, and further goes to this idea that the river can't be involved.

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My personal opinion regarding the reluctance to provide information as to why his friends didn't accompany him outside and the reason they are reluctant to provide why Riley was ejected from the bar is because they are worried that the general public may lose interest in his case, cutting off valuable feedback as to his whereabouts or provide information regarding his disappearance. The general population interested in finding Riley see him as an unfairly treated victim of an uncaring, impersonal corporate entity.

 

[Mimimom]

I find it hard to believe that debit card was there for 8 days. No way all the homeless in the area of the river and even tourists and locals weren't on the riverbank, let alone searchers and it went unnoticed over a week. There are people all up and down that river. Why haven't the police asked to speak to/identity the people he got into the altercation with? Why aren't they giving the reason he was thrown out of the bar? Why hasn't bar footage been released? This whole thing is weird IMO

Debit card could have blown around or stuff blown around it. Also not easy to find a card amid a bunch of trash.

Did i miss that he got into an altercation?

I don't see why he got thrown out of the bar is important? His family knows, and we know where he went after the bar...before he disappeared

 

[nao]

I find it hard to believe that debit card was there for 8 days. No way all the homeless in the area of the river and even tourists and locals weren't on the riverbank, let alone searchers and it went unnoticed over a week. There are people all up and down that river. Why haven't the police asked to speak to/identity the people he got into the altercation with? Why aren't they giving the reason he was thrown out of the bar? Why hasn't bar footage been released? This whole thing is weird IMO

Moo..he was not thrown out of bar, he was escorted out of bar. He went to another bar and they would not let him enter. So he was showing signs of being over intoxicated.
The place where the card was found was full of trash. Nobody is going to be scratching thru that looking for treasure. The card is smooth plastic no particular reason any dirt would stick to it..moo

 

[technicallymissing]

Riley's footsteps fall silent after speaking to the officer. I think he veered to the right to walk in the grass. When the officer turns around, Riley isn't in sight.

In the Brain Entin interview posted earlier, the family spokesman said Riley texted his last message to his new GF after she texted asking how he was doing and if he was having a good time. Riley texted her: Good lops.

UrbanDictionary tells me that lop means "A big brain way of saying lol"

What do you guys make of this text message?

I'm only a couple years older than Riley and have never heard that Urban Dictionary definition. I guess it could be a thing but I lean towards him having misspelled "lol" or possibly "lost" like someone suggested before (or phone autocorrecting)

 

[ohiobuckeyegirl]

I understand there is trash there lol Its downtown and Nashville has a huge homeless population. I've been there lol I have actually interacted with many of the homeless there and bought them meals in that area, the downtown park area and bus stop area. I'm just saying if you're going to do a search, you have to search through things.

 

[caradana]

My personal opinion regarding the reluctance to provide information as to why his friends didn't accompany him outside and the reason they are reluctant to provide why Riley was ejected from the bar is because they are worried that the general public may lose interest in his case, cutting off valuable feedback as to his whereabouts or provide information regarding his disappearance. The general population interested in finding Riley see him as an unfairly treated victim of an uncaring, impersonal corporate entity.

That’s an interesting view, @branmuffin - glad you shared it - I hadn’t thought of it that way. I see the general population interested in finding Riley differently, in that Riley is getting excellent media in part because he’s a relatable male college student to many who are in power and class-advantaged in America, guys who do things like run media outlets. And TV stations. And news sites. Guys who came out of places like Mizzou with honors and became successful corporate guys with influence and metaphorical bullhorns. Those guys are watching this story (or their brilliant web sleuthing type wives are and are telling them about it, which is probably equally likely) and thinking, man, I remember leaving bars when I was just destroyed and staggering around and getting denied at the bar across the street and wandering and weaving, but it coulda been me.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Dave Portnoy or a Joe Rogan talk about this case solely because they find it personally relatable.

I pray searchers find him.

 

[whitelilac]

Did you see the beginning of the video? Looks to me like an altercation and like he's being grabbed.
I didn't hear of a reason he was thrown out, just that it wasnt due to fighting.
I realize there is trash, but you would think that things would have been looked at during the search to see if anything belonged to him. Doesn't make sense to do a search if you're not going to look at what you find.

Do you mean the video where he fell down near the pole? The altercation at the beginning of that video, in the upper right corner, by a food truck, were two other guys. Riley wasn't involved in that...he hurried away.

 

[MassGuy]

Did you see the beginning of the video? Looks to me like an altercation and like he's being grabbed.
I didn't hear of a reason he was thrown out, just that it wasnt due to fighting.
I realize there is trash, but you would think that things would have been looked at during the search to see if anything belonged to him. Doesn't make sense to do a search if you're not going to look at what you find.

The family friend said that was two other men, and Riley was passing around the same time. This was prior to him walking past the cop.

We didn’t get the reason he was thrown out, but the implication is the family knows what it is. I think he was likely stumbling around, but the friend was reluctant to say. I’d like to know, but that’s the family's call at this point.

This is a large, brushy, rocky, litter filled area. I’m not thrilled that they missed the card, but I can see how they did. It gives them a slightly narrower idea of where he likely went in, but he could be many miles away by now.

 

[SMK777]

Apple iPhone 14 and later don’t have physical SIM cards anymore. It’s all eSIM. There is no concept anymore of ripping out a SIM and having a virgin phone. MOO: I would put money on Riley having a 14 or later. The concept of stripping stolen phones is mostly gone. Look at corporate phone protections: virtually impossible to take a corporate phone to a mass cellular dealer and get it associated with a different image and Apple ID. Riley is a 6’7” man on a street full of happy, buzzed, smaller tourists. He wasn’t targeted for a phone for which physical SIM doesn’t exist.

What concerns me now: every passing hour is an extended radius down this river’s current where he hypothetically could be. This search gets harder and harder as the clock ticks. There is almost nothing about this case that reminds me of Audrii’s aside from sadness, but the one common element they share: it needs environmental hydrologists, civil engineers who model flow, mechanical engineers calculating currents and circulation, barge captains, and brave people in scuba suits willing to descend into blind muck looking for answers. I believe, MOO, that their efforts will ultimately answer this case.

True. Yes, absolutely agree.

 

[Cyan]

I recall reading that the homeless man who "heard the commotion" said he didn't to over to Riley because someone else was already there with him. IMO, that person who was "already over there" has the key.

In years of being homeless I learned a few things. The homeless community is split at being helpful and at being cutthroat. There are some very intelligent folks that end up on the street. I watched a candy man that stood about 6ft 3in at probably 220-250 lbs get taken down by some of the people at the camp. The most important thing I learned was trust NO one.

While it's not the liveliest of scenarios, don't underestimate what people who have nothing will do to get something. What if the commotion was a robbery in progress or abodisappeared? What I learned on the streets is that "See something, say something" doesn't go - You have nowhere safe to go and it's more of "See no evil, heae no evil, speak no evil."

I find the whole thing with the debit card to be weird, as in the sense of where is anything else he would likely have in his wallet? Had someone found it previously and then chucked there in an "Oh sxxt" moment of panic?" perhaps AFTER learning that Riley had diasappeared?

Again, these are just my opinions based off of my experiences from years of being homeless and being associated with some shady people.

 

[nao]

Moo. He is very tall, if he was wobbly in the bar it would be noticable because he could been seen from afar...moo