moonriverfarm
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Sustained said:
Looking at that terrain, I can't see anyway Riley would have tumbled into the river unless he was either chased or somehow made it down the hill to the edge of the water.
Do you think his parents have or will hire a private investigator? It seems they want no stone left unturned, and it certainly couldn’t hurt. I hope they get answers ASAP.Reposted from the very tail end of the last thread as I posted right as Knitty made this one:
When Inaki Bascaran went missing in Chicago a few years ago, they hired a private investigator quite quickly (iirc they used some money to help defray the cost). I'm wondering about that as a strategy...you'd have someone who could work as a point person. They would likely have insight into what sorts of data you'd want, and they may know how to get it more rapidly from cell providers, local businesses, etc. A PI perhaps has connections to the local LE community that they could leverage- or maybe a PI would turn local LE off as it might feel like you were undercutting them? Idk. I would think I would want a point person on my side who could direct the investigation and streamline all the information when I would likely be flailing all over the place with grief and panic. JMO MOO
Having lived there in the past and being familiar with that area, it isn't a place a normal functioning person would climb to and fall in the water. It's not as easy as some other places a little upstream. However, a falling down drunk person could easily fall over or do any number of unreasonable things that led straight to the water. I still believe this is what happened to this young man.I'd been thinking this as well - just waiting for someone to post photos/video as I'd only seen them from unapproved sources. The trees, trash, underbrush, and (at some places at least) retaining wall make me question if anyone could end up in the water unintentionally. It doesn't seem like one could "tumble" very far in this terrain.
[Sorry - link didn't carry over from the last thread!]
Sadly, it would seem so.The bank card, or phone, would be the reason someone would attack him, and there it sat, never used by anyone, right next to the water. To me it isn't a red-flag, it’s a breadcrumb.
The bank card, or phone, would be the reason someone would attack him, and there it sat, never used by anyone, right next to the water. To me it isn't a red-flag, its a breadcrumb.
Having lived there in the past and being familiar with that area, it isn't a place a normal functioning person would climb to and fall in the water. It's not as easy as some other places a little upstream. However, a falling down drunk person could easily fall over or do any number of unreasonable things that led straight to the water. I still believe this is what happened to this young man...[snipped]
Since we saw him falling and tumbling on a flat surface (and who knows, he could have a head injury after that), I can sadly envision him falling down a muddy, rocky, or uneven surface.I can definitely see "any number of unreasonable things" getting him to the water without another person being involved; it's just the falling, tumbling, sliding, or skidding down that embankment that I can't invision. Maybe I'll come across the right photo that shows how it's possible, once the most likely spot is determined. (This said as someone who never even considered venturing off the pedestrian sidewalks on my visits to Nashville, so admittedly just conjecturing.)
I don't think you can tell anything from a video taken in broad daylight then judge what a very intoxicated, lost young man, who had already taken a sidewalk dive, would have done in the dark. Add the river level that you are not seeing on that night.I'd been thinking this as well - just waiting for someone to post photos/video as I'd only seen them from unapproved sources.
Ah -- I've double-checked it now, and the person's graphic shows the water level at 24.66 feet on Mar. 8 at 10pm but at only about 18 feet (my estimation from the graph) on Saturday morning, March 16.
If I'm looking at that right, that embankment is really steep.