AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #24

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  1. hollye

    hollye Well-Known Member

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    Official Wells Family information website "Find Summer Wells"

    Media, Maps and Timeline - No Discussion Thread

    Poll: What do you feel happened to Summer Wells?

    Map Courtesy of @skibaboo : Summer Wells, Rogersville TN June 15th 2021 - Google My Maps

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    The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation has issued an endangered child alert for a missing 5-year-old from Hawkins County.

    Summer Wells is 5 years old and not 4 as was previously reported.

    Emergency crews are searching for Summer Wells around Ben Hill Road in the Beech Creek community.

    Wells was seen walking away from her home on Ben Hill Road around 7 p.m.

    She is 4-feet tall, has blonde hair, and was last seen wearing a pink shirt and gray shorts.

    TBI issues endangered child alert for missing Hawkins County 5-year-old | WJHL | Tri-Cities News & Weather
     
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  2. Sillybilly

    Sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    Next member to sleuth this family's social media will receive a 1 week Time Out from Websleuths.

    It's clear in The Rules. We aren't going to say it again. Zero tolerance.
     
  3. Sillybilly

    Sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    ADMIN NOTE:

    This post lands at random. Apologies for the length and the personal anecdote.

    Websleuths is first and foremost a true crime discussion forum. Only second to that is that WS is victim friendly. That has NEVER changed, yet there are those who still insinuate or flat-out accuse parents or loved ones of being responsible for a crime.

    With regard to the Option 1 and Option 2 hypotheticals that were presented by birdfeeder upthread, I don't believe that post was designed to cast aspersions at the family, but rather to point out that, in their opinion, abduction was more likely than family involvement. It was not intended to be a gateway for others to make up scenarios or start down that non victim friendly path of how family members could be responsible.

    We have seen cases where parents remained totally silent about their daughter's disappearance because LE was busy building the case against someone else. We've had cases where a mother couldn't stay silent, and never seemed to say the ‘right thing’; members and even LE were convinced that mom was guilty yet two absolute strangers were ultimately charged with the murder of that woman's precious daughter. We've had surprises we would never have foreseen .. children who have been found after all hope had faded. Each case is unique in its detail and until LE names a POI or suspect, we do not understand why members join Websleuths only to then become averse to posting in accordance with our very basic Victim Friendly policy that covers family members, friends and loved ones.

    I can say through personal experience that the pain over the loss of children (different circumstances), while it never goes away, does change somewhat over time. It changes who you are as a person, but what will never change, and what I can still hear today as clearly as if it was yesterday, are the words of those who tried to make me somehow feel responsible for the death of my children. Your words have power. Please choose them carefully.

    Our rule has always been that we are victim friendly. As Tricia has said in the past, "The rules are easy to follow on Websleuths. Thousands of people follow the rules every day with no problem."

    Please don't respond, but try to keep these thoughts in mind going forward.
     
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    Combined Historical Mod Notes:

    I get the frustration and the desire for answers. I also understand how emotions are high in Summers case. However, baiting and/or bickering with fellow posters is uncalled for. It gets us no closer to what brought us here and does not advance the conversation.

    Please refrain from responding to posts simply to bicker, argue, or bait. If you disagree with a post: scroll and roll, take a break, or at minimum pause and re-read your response before you hit “post reply”. When you feel most compelled to immediately respond, that is a sign you should pause before taking action.

    24hr time outs will be issued without added warning for baiting and bickering
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    Mod Note:

    Nothing has been released by LE stating the parents are POI’s or Suspects at this point. The victim friendly rule remains in full effect. Discussions/observations on what has been stated in interviews is fine. However, please do not point to, or post judgmental comments regarding how a parent looks or appears on video and do not cast veiled accusations of their involvement. Lastly, please refrain from stating you are “sitting on your hands”. That is a veiled accusation/judgement and there is no need to post it.
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    Mod Note:

    We all know this situation is not pretty. There is a lot of noise around Summer’s disappearance. When discussing the approved interviews, keep it to what is stated in the interviews. We will not tolerate trash talking of parties interviewed or on the periphery of this case. Leniency has been given to align with open discussion of the interview(s) content, but the trash talking is where the line is being drawn.

    There will be no further warnings on this topic. Time Outs will be automatic.

    Keep it classy and remember your words have power.

    Thanks Everyone,
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  5. CocoChanel

    CocoChanel Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    MOD NOTE

    Tricia’s podcast is subject to the same TOS we use for discussion of other approved podcasts. Theories are not facts. Podcasters and guests who share their theories are not open for discussion here unless their theory lines up with the facts that have been substantiated in MSM. For instance, there has been no substantiation that there was an accident on the day that Summer disappeared, so a theory stating that is not open for discussion, because it is accusatory.

    Hope that clarifies what can be talked about on the thread. If you have any questions, please ask them in a REPORT or a PM. Please do not ask those questions on the thread.

    THANKS!
     
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    Mod Note:

    The Mod and Admin team acknowledges a lot of information has been communicated via approved sources such as our own Tricia’s WS Channel and Chris’s TIR over the last 48 hours. We would like to offer some guidance around how the information may be discussed within the TOS we commit to uphold at WS.

    First and foremost Victim Friendly remains our North Star. Members may reasonably discuss what has been shared by these approved sources, but may not make random accusations, or directly suggest the parents involvement in Summers disappearance solely based on this information. The discussions around the sexual assaults should be anchored only in what has been shared in regards to historical behavior. Added speculation at this time regarding current behavior and connecting it to Summer would be in violation of victim friendly.

    We realize this is a balancing act and we are doing our best to balance along with each of you, while behind the curtain. This post is to offer some clarity of where we are today, however that position may be adjusted along the way as new details unfold.

    Best Regards,
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    Approved YouTube Videos as of Aug 16, 2021
    Attached are links to the YouTube episodes currently approved for discussion in Summer Wells case. An approved episode does not mean the channel is approved for blanket posting. When referencing YouTube content be sure it is from one of the links below. If it is not linked below, do not post it and do not bring discussion of it into the thread. When making a post regarding specific statements within these videos please take the following steps within the post:
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    The responsibility to support statements made within the videos rests with the poster of the information being stated as fact.

    Blanket approval - Websleuths live with Tricia
    All Episodes released on case - Profiling Evil

    Episode ONLY Approvals
    Unmasked:

    Interview with H’s Mom
    Interview with Church Friend DD

    DutyRon:
    Summer Wells false rumors and how it affects the case with special guests on Crime Time with DutyRon (Interview w/ Dr. Butcher)
    Summer Wells Search by Midwestern EquuSearch special guest Dave Rader
    Summer Wells Search live updates with David Rader from Midwest EquuSearch in Tennessee

    Voices Behind the Wall (Interviews with DW):
    DW Interview #1
    DW Interview #2
    DW Interview #3 (Retraces Steps)
    DW Interview #4 DW & Sister

    DW Interview #5 DW Answers Accusation and Offers New Theory

    John Kelly Profiler:
    Who Took Summer Wells - Part 1
    Who Took Summer Wells - Part 2 Who is Guilty
    Who Took Summer Wells - Part 3 Who is the Boogeyman

    Who Took Summer Wells - Part 4 Darkness and Evil

    If it’s not on the list above do not post it without prior approval from a mod/admin.
     
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    Mod Note:

    Tonight’s YouTube is approved since it is an interview with DW.

    Approved for thread discussion:
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  8. athenna

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    Pulled from @Sundog in the last thread:

    Well that certainly doesn’t sound like he’s worried. Maybe he has nothing to hide.
     
  9. hdo82

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    Don showing the route he took. <modsnip>

    That aside, Don is showing a good view of the roads and land around.
     
  10. kittythehare

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    Good God it's a maze! It's beautiful but so many trees... so many places to search.
    My heart is sinking watching it.
     
  11. Allabouttrial

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    Still not clear to me why he went past the shack to the creek before going home. Anybody??
     
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    To look around for Summer ?
     
  13. Allabouttrial

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    Why there though? Did he know the boys were there? but surely if he did he would have said?
     
  14. potatoes13

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    He said he assumed they were already up at the house looking there.
     
  15. Mountain_Kat

    Mountain_Kat Heca, Firimar !

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    That's a helluva way to treat a brand new car that is costing him $600 dollars a month. :rolleyes:

    But anyway, at least I got to see the deer stand (which I did NOT know about) and the inside of the "shack".
     
  16. hdo82

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    That terrain and driveway at that speed. Eek.
     
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    Bingo 100% agreed.

    Chi
     
  18. potatoes13

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    So, I know they know him, but there was no reaction from the dogs when Don pulled up.
     
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    We all drive like that on our hilly roads. Jump the hills.
     
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    Obviously not off on a mini jaunt that day....
     
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