AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #26

Discussion in 'Missing Persons Discussion' started by hollye, Jun 16, 2021.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. hollye

    hollye Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,267
    Likes Received:
    2,989
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Official Wells Family information website "Find Summer Wells"

    Media, Maps and Timeline - No Discussion Thread

    Poll: What do you feel happened to Summer Wells?

    Map Courtesy of @skibaboo : Summer Wells, Rogersville TN June 15th 2021 - Google My Maps

    Thread #1 Thread #2 Thread #3 Thread #4 Thread #5
    Thread #6 Thread #7 Thread #8 Thread #9 Thread #10
    Thread #11 Thread #12 Thread #13 Thread #14 Thread #15
    Thread #16 Thread #17 Thread #18 Thread #19 Thread #20
    Thread #21 Thread #22 Thread #23 Thread #24 Thread #25

    _______________________________________________________

    The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation has issued an endangered child alert for a missing 5-year-old from Hawkins County.

    Summer Wells is 5 years old and not 4 as was previously reported.

    Emergency crews are searching for Summer Wells around Ben Hill Road in the Beech Creek community.

    Wells was seen walking away from her home on Ben Hill Road around 7 p.m.

    She is 4-feet tall, has blonde hair, and was last seen wearing a pink shirt and gray shorts.

    TBI issues endangered child alert for missing Hawkins County 5-year-old | WJHL | Tri-Cities News & Weather
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Aug 22, 2021
    hdo82 likes this.


  2. Sillybilly

    Sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    30,773
    Likes Received:
    78,042
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Next member to sleuth this family's social media will receive a 1 week Time Out from Websleuths.

    It's clear in The Rules. We aren't going to say it again. Zero tolerance.
     
    Shadow@light and hdo82 like this.
  3. Sillybilly

    Sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    30,773
    Likes Received:
    78,042
    Trophy Points:
    113
    ADMIN NOTE:

    This post lands at random. Apologies for the length and the personal anecdote.

    Websleuths is first and foremost a true crime discussion forum. Only second to that is that WS is victim friendly. That has NEVER changed, yet there are those who still insinuate or flat-out accuse parents or loved ones of being responsible for a crime.

    With regard to the Option 1 and Option 2 hypotheticals that were presented by birdfeeder upthread, I don't believe that post was designed to cast aspersions at the family, but rather to point out that, in their opinion, abduction was more likely than family involvement. It was not intended to be a gateway for others to make up scenarios or start down that non victim friendly path of how family members could be responsible.

    We have seen cases where parents remained totally silent about their daughter's disappearance because LE was busy building the case against someone else. We've had cases where a mother couldn't stay silent, and never seemed to say the ‘right thing’; members and even LE were convinced that mom was guilty yet two absolute strangers were ultimately charged with the murder of that woman's precious daughter. We've had surprises we would never have foreseen .. children who have been found after all hope had faded. Each case is unique in its detail and until LE names a POI or suspect, we do not understand why members join Websleuths only to then become averse to posting in accordance with our very basic Victim Friendly policy that covers family members, friends and loved ones.

    I can say through personal experience that the pain over the loss of children (different circumstances), while it never goes away, does change somewhat over time. It changes who you are as a person, but what will never change, and what I can still hear today as clearly as if it was yesterday, are the words of those who tried to make me somehow feel responsible for the death of my children. Your words have power. Please choose them carefully.

    Our rule has always been that we are victim friendly. As Tricia has said in the past, "The rules are easy to follow on Websleuths. Thousands of people follow the rules every day with no problem."

    Please don't respond, but try to keep these thoughts in mind going forward.
     
    whatsnext, kittythehare and hdo82 like this.
  4. Tiff23fr

    Tiff23fr Verified Expert - Cultural & Behavioral Dynamics Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    5,904
    Likes Received:
    42,333
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Combined Historical Mod Notes:

    I get the frustration and the desire for answers. I also understand how emotions are high in Summers case. However, baiting and/or bickering with fellow posters is uncalled for. It gets us no closer to what brought us here and does not advance the conversation.

    Please refrain from responding to posts simply to bicker, argue, or bait. If you disagree with a post: scroll and roll, take a break, or at minimum pause and re-read your response before you hit “post reply”. When you feel most compelled to immediately respond, that is a sign you should pause before taking action.

    24hr time outs will be issued without added warning for baiting and bickering
    ———————————————

    Mod Note:

    Nothing has been released by LE stating the parents are POI’s or Suspects at this point. The victim friendly rule remains in full effect. Discussions/observations on what has been stated in interviews is fine. However, please do not point to, or post judgmental comments regarding how a parent looks or appears on video and do not cast veiled accusations of their involvement. Lastly, please refrain from stating you are “sitting on your hands”. That is a veiled accusation/judgement and there is no need to post it.
    ————————————————-

    Mod Note:

    We all know this situation is not pretty. There is a lot of noise around Summer’s disappearance. When discussing the approved interviews, keep it to what is stated in the interviews. We will not tolerate trash talking of parties interviewed or on the periphery of this case. Leniency has been given to align with open discussion of the interview(s) content, but the trash talking is where the line is being drawn.

    There will be no further warnings on this topic. Time Outs will be automatic.

    Keep it classy and remember your words have power.

    Thanks Everyone,
    Tiff

     
    MsBetsy, carbuff, whatsnext and 2 others like this.
  5. Tiff23fr

    Tiff23fr Verified Expert - Cultural & Behavioral Dynamics Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    5,904
    Likes Received:
    42,333
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Mod Note:

    The Mod and Admin team acknowledges a lot of information has been communicated via approved sources such as our own Tricia’s WS Channel and Chris’s TIR over the last 48 hours. We would like to offer some guidance around how the information may be discussed within the TOS we commit to uphold at WS.

    First and foremost Victim Friendly remains our North Star. Members may reasonably discuss what has been shared by these approved sources, but may not make random accusations, or directly suggest the parents involvement in Summers disappearance solely based on this information. The discussions around the sexual assaults should be anchored only in what has been shared in regards to historical behavior. Added speculation at this time regarding current behavior and connecting it to Summer would be in violation of victim friendly.

    We realize this is a balancing act and we are doing our best to balance along with each of you, while behind the curtain. This post is to offer some clarity of where we are today, however that position may be adjusted along the way as new details unfold.

    Best Regards,
    The Mod and Admin Team

    Approved YouTube Videos as of Aug 16, 2021
    Attached are links to the YouTube episodes currently approved for discussion in Summer Wells case. An approved episode does not mean the channel is approved for blanket posting. When referencing YouTube content be sure it is from one of the links below. If it is not linked below, do not post it and do not bring discussion of it into the thread. When making a post regarding specific statements within these videos please take the following steps within the post:
    1. Include the url link to the YouTube episode
    2. Provide the TimeStamp for the statements being referenced

    The responsibility to support statements made within the videos rests with the poster of the information being stated as fact.

    Blanket approval - Websleuths live with Tricia
    All Episodes released on case - Profiling Evil

    Episode ONLY Approvals
    Unmasked:

    Interview with H’s Mom
    Interview with Church Friend DD

    DutyRon:
    Summer Wells false rumors and how it affects the case with special guests on Crime Time with DutyRon (Interview w/ Dr. Butcher)
    Summer Wells Search by Midwestern EquuSearch special guest Dave Rader
    Summer Wells Search live updates with David Rader from Midwest EquuSearch in Tennessee

    Voices Behind the Wall (Interviews with DW):
    DW Interview #1
    DW Interview #2
    DW Interview #3 (Retraces Steps)
    DW Interview #4 DW & Sister
    DW Interview #5 DW Answers Accusation and Offers New Theory
    DW Interview #6 August 22, 2021

    DW Interview #7 August 22, 2021

    John Kelly Profiler:
    Who Took Summer Wells - Part 1
    Who Took Summer Wells - Part 2 Who is Guilty
    Who Took Summer Wells - Part 3 Who is the Boogeyman

    Who Took Summer Wells - Part 4 Darkness and Evil

    If it’s not on the list above do not post it without prior approval from a mod/admin.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 1, 2021 at 8:44 PM
    kittythehare and hdo82 like this.
  6. Ozoner

    Ozoner Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,466
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We're 68 days in, and I still haven't seen anything to make me believe that this was anything other than an abduction.

    The focus on the parents' past behaviors, statements to the media, etc. is nothing but a distraction as far as I'm concerned.

    My fear is that the focus on the parents on social media will discourage someone from sending in a tip that might lead to the abductor and might help that perp get away with his crimes.
     
    bettyboop, Krwiley60, mks762 and 23 others like this.
  7. Jettson

    Jettson Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    179
    Likes Received:
    2,239
    Trophy Points:
    93
    IMO CH probably went into her trailer to rest or nap after the flower planting. That could have left CW as the only adult that knows everything that occurred for those last couple of hours before calling 911. I hope she is filling in the gaps for LE. If not, well, that is concerning. IMO.
     
  8. SMK777

    SMK777 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,716
    Likes Received:
    13,938
    Trophy Points:
    113
    LE has always maintained that there is no evidence of an abduction; albeit that is not proof that one didn’t occur.

    I’m very discouraged at this point that Summer hasn’t been found and no suspects have been named. I’ve been in the foul play camp but am surprised by the complete lack of movement on this case.
     
  9. Blue Amethyst

    Blue Amethyst Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    575
    Likes Received:
    6,222
    Trophy Points:
    93
    When I was Summer's age I was staying at my aunt’s place. I was mad at her and took a bag of bread and ran away. I wasn’t gone long and came back.

    What if Summer was mad at something and ran away? Perhaps she took the road or the dog trail and only went to the main road.

    What if she only stood there for a short time and trucks went past her. But..what if there was that one..that one that took the opportunity and picked her up. Gone in a flash. Just MOO.
     
  10. hdo82

    hdo82 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,014
    Likes Received:
    11,273
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just my opinion

    Don has been talking a lot, giving statements and responding to and defending everything that's being said in SM about him. I understand feeling attacked and wanting to defend ones self but why do it over and over? Denying allegations, admitting to them, apologizing, shed tours to spite others, all of that is irrelevant to me anyway.

    IMO It isn't just everyone (the public) on SM gossiping that is hurting Summer, it's the constant interviews that Don is giving defending his past and rehashing the same thing over and over.

    Just one interview a week about SUMMER and nothing but SUMMER. That would be amazing, the more talk about her and not Don and Candus could give this case a HUGE boost.

    All my opinion!!!
     
  11. Ozoner

    Ozoner Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,466
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    With the number of RSOs in the vicinity, it's a real possibility, in my opinion.

    Summer could have been peeved about something as simple as her brothers' unwillingness to play with her.
     
  12. hdo82

    hdo82 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,014
    Likes Received:
    11,273
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Didn't they say one of the brothers said he felt bad that he should have played with her? I remember hearing this a lot but not sure where the statement actually came from.
    Alas, something that small could upset any child.
     
  13. kkdj

    kkdj Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,861
    Likes Received:
    62,704
    Trophy Points:
    113
    But what are the real possibilities of that as opposed to foul play or an accident?
    It just so happens on that day and at that time frame there would be someone that abducted her? I suppose it's a possibility but I think it's a very very slim one.
    Plus LE has told Don (according to Don) that they don't believe there was an abduction.
    moo
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2021
  14. kittythehare

    kittythehare Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    12,335
    Likes Received:
    64,121
    Trophy Points:
    113
    My understanding of his rationale for giving interviews is that he believes the negative publicity he has received will put people off searching for Summer.
    He wants all hands on deck to help find her. Not unreasonable and he has a right to rebut.
     
  15. Allabouttrial

    Allabouttrial Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,576
    Likes Received:
    19,640
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If he stopped doing interviews though, there would be nothing left to rebut. CM's interview with DW was over two weeks ago. He's now only rebutting things he's said in the Cher interviews.
     
  16. dacjess

    dacjess Where is Summer

    Messages:
    1,042
    Likes Received:
    10,423
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This is my thinking also. If it was an abduction, I do not believe it was a stranger. But anytime I try to make an abduction theory fit in my head, I end up doing a ton of mental acrobatics. I know crimes happen quickly and stars could have aligned here, but with where they live and them being gone most of the day and kind of in and out of the house to unload groceries, wash hands, maybe change clothes or talk to the boys, walking over to CH’s to get a piece of candy… I just can’t fit all those things into an abduction scenario. How would a perp know Summer would ever be by herself or go into the basement?
    JMO.
     
  17. Ozoner

    Ozoner Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,466
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Considering the evidence, the chances of an accident or foul play (other than abduction) are close to zero, in my opinion. Those scenarios would require a conspiracy of several people and flawless execution by people who aren't particularly sophisticated.

    LE has never stated that they told DW that they don't believe there was an abduction; that is hearsay passed through several people. LE may have said something like, "There is no evidence of an abduction." That doesn't mean much because if Summer was snatched from the roadside, there wouldn't be much evidence, in my opinion, aside from Summer's scent trail ending at the road, which is what we have, and possibly an unfamiliar vehicle in the vicinity, which we also have.
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2021
  18. dacjess

    dacjess Where is Summer

    Messages:
    1,042
    Likes Received:
    10,423
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I understand this. What I don’t understand, however, is that he is rebutting the social media “outrage” or whatnot. It’s very easy to turn off your computer and not log on to social media. It seems like this case has been pretty quiet in MSM, few LE updates, etc. IMO.
     
    Midori_Azul, Seenit, CarolAnn and 2 others like this.
  19. MacGrammie7

    MacGrammie7 Active Member

    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    182
    Trophy Points:
    28
    I’ve had an initial opinion since the beginning but knew that things are often not as they first appear. She could have wandered off. She could have been abducted. She could have been sold. She could have been hurt by accident. She could have been hurt purposefully. Nothing had totally proved or disproved any of these. I have to wonder how our opinions would be different if there hadn’t been the many interviews by the parents (especially DW). Unfortunately guilty or not the phrase “Methinks thou doth protest too much” has started to outweigh everything else.
     
  20. investigatefred

    investigatefred Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    274
    Likes Received:
    3,154
    Trophy Points:
    93
    THIS.

    Everyone seems to think "abduction" means somebody had to come all the way to the house to get her. Why didn't the dogs bark...blah blah blah...

    Her scent was picked up by the dogs and ended at the road. That to me says she went down the trail by the road,, someone saw her there, saw no one else around, took the opportunity and grabbed her.

    ETA: MOO
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page



  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice