trial day 52: REBUTTAL; #160

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TexMex, where are the tacos???

Ha! Tonight was enchiladas then dessert quesadillas

Tortillas, put in bananas, brown sugar, cinnamon and chocolate chips...melt in btwn tortillas browning in butter in skillet.

Top it with vanilla ice cream and caramel sauce.
 

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I wonder why they didn't become concerned seeing Nappy pinned up in a downstairs area, blocking his roaming of the house with a doggie gate. Travis let his dog go everywhere in his home..Travis loved that dog. Why didn't the roommates pick up on why Nappy was confined for five days to a downstairs area? It doesn't matter now. It's almost over.. Thank gosh! JA can give us one last smile as she is strapped to a death gurney... She deserves nothing less than the DP.. IMO

Well i dont know what his plans were for the dog while he was on vacation. I dont think the room mates were super close. They probably assumed he left and locked the dog downstairs so he wouldnt make a mess, and figured a sitter would be coming by or something.
 

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Was the before he told her he wanted nothing more to do with her....she ruined his life, etc? TIA

~jmo
she wrote this after his May 26 message, she just dated it the 22nd to make it sound like he was repsonding to her as a jilted lover.
eta: he was done with her in July 07 when she moved to Mesa and would not let her attend his
ward/Church.

I wonder if Deanna was ever in his ward.
 

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Just after the verdict was read in Orlando, my daughter, who has beautiful spiral curly hair, decided to straighten it with a straightening iron. When she did that, she could have been a spitting image of casey. my daughter is built like tinkerbell, small and petite. As soon as I saw her I had a hissy fit and told her to go wash her hair immediately. Keep in mind, she was 20 at the time. I did not care............ people wanted casey strung up from the nearest tree. I live in Indiana but I still had a panic attack. lol

My niece just dyed her hair blonde and she looks just like the old Jodi. She is a natural blonde, but she lightened her hair. When I skyped her last week I said oh my you look like Jodi, she said don't tell me that. I said not the new Jodi the pretty one. She doesn't think she looks like her. I told her well not anymore.
 

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Good grief, 12:45 CST and I have to get up at 5:00. Damn, convict JA to DP already so I can get some sleep.
 

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Well i dont know what his plans were for the dog while he was on vacation. I dont think the room mates were super close. They probably assumed he left and locked the dog downstairs so he wouldnt make a mess, and figured a sitter would be coming by or something.

Yes! He did hire sitters for "Naps".
I bet that was her "caretaker" job she mentioned.

It was a dog not a child~
 

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Jodi Arias Trial Day 24 (Full) - YouTube

At the 2:00 mark Juan brings up Salinas and getting her nails done. She is dodging that line of questioning...

Also did you notice that when Nurmi was questioning her, he was going in order in the road trip from place to place...so they talked about Monterey and all that, and then I believe came Salinas, so he said something like you went to a starbucks there and I don't know if he mentioned the gas or not, then he said "did you do anything else in Salinas?" and Jodi said "no." So I don't know if they were expected to go into the whole thing about Wal-Mart, and then Jodi just backed out of it on the stand? But it seemed like Nurmi was ready to go further, and then Jodi just shut him off!
 

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BBM~ ITA she started to plan the killing when she hauled her sorry arse back to Yreka in April 08.

She lost control of Travis, she was couldn't handle it.

I think it's possible she started planning the murder in EARNEST back in early-mid April--whenever she moved from Mesa to Yreka. However, it's entirely possible that ideation of murder began to take shape as far back as late 2007/early 2008. What she wrote in her journals was probably true 50-80 percent of the time before she started to plan Travis's murder. Much less so once her plans kicked in. We know the journal was largely a work of fiction after she killed Travis. She may have been excited about her phone coming-especially if she was pretending to others around her that she had lost the original. Very calculated.
 

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My perception is she is not happy in this photo.

Maybe Travis wanted a "secret" of this photoshoot as it was his brand new camera right? And Jodi planned to use the sex pics as blackmail, the reason why she left it in the washer. She wanted Travis's camera found with naked photos of them to send to his Bishop/Mimi.

She thought she'd kill him clean. Leave no DNA, leave AZ, and carry on to Utah without a trace in AZ. (cell phone off, no gas or food purchases)

Her plan was an epic fail. She did not plan on Travis fighting as hard as he he did. The whole thing was a disaster, but she still followed the plan to expose Travis and his "secret" sex life with Jodi.

Don't get me wrong, I am not pro-Jodi. ;) Just being realistic as to the events that occurred prior to the killing.

She still brutally killed him and it was not self-defense or the epitome of DV.

As much as Travis was angry at her, I do believes he still loved her, despite all the warnings he got.[/QUOTE.

I don't think Travis loved JA, maybe liked her a lot. He was not in ove with her.
 

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This chick is straight up delusional!
I can't wait until verdict day.
She thinks she is going home
because she is smarter than everyone.
I think she is wrong!
 

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I don't know lol. I have a sneaking suspicion the hair colouring will come up again in closing.

Maybe as KCL said, a hair colourist from Salinas will testify soon. :please:

BBM.

I've always assumed Jodi colored her own hair back to dark, because I simply can't imagine, with the enormously high profile of this case, that a stylist did it in a salon, and:

1. No one besides the stylist saw her or remembered her being in the salon
2. That the stylist would "keep quiet" for so many years about coloring her hair, and not notify LE or the media that JA had her hair colored at a salon.

I think it's possible/ likely that she did it herself. She may have purchased haircolor in Yreka or somewhere else, before she ever left on the road trip. And the photos revealed today on the helio phone reinforce that for me, that she may have colored her own hair. She was possibly "admiring" her own work with the color.

Now that I think of it, was Darryl Brewer ever asked what color her hair was when she came to borrow the gas cans?
 

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SO, I am now assuming all the nasty things she says in the rest of that same May 22 entry was also fiction. Geez, I wish everyone in the world knew that.
Here's the link:

http://kristinarandle.com/blog/jodi-arias-journal-entries-2/

Funny, I was stuck on the same entry. I can't believe she really wrote all that in that time period. I swear the crimes now days are like movie scripts. Her journal entries sound like they are coming from a rational mind. She keeps shape shifting! :scared:

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Arias1.pdf
 

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Good Night, Y'All !!! We must get justice for Travis !!! (It about tore my heart out when we didn't get justice for little Caylee).....
 

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I just want to add that I think there's a juror on the panel that really can't put two plus two together. What the hay kind of question (at this point) was the question regarding whether or not T A 's roommates had guns? Someone still hasn't understood or digested that JA has admitted to killing TA! Hopefully all the weird questions are coming just from him/her and cross fingers they get eliminated prior to deliberations.

Yes, I do think there's one very confused juror there.

Moo

Omigosh you're scaring me...that's what I thought too after the DeMarte questions. But I was pretty confident about today's questions until you brought this up. Yea, now that I think about it that is kind of pointless...b/c r they saying Jodi could have gotten the gun from a roomate's room, but that does not fit in ANYWHERE in the defense's OWN STORY. Or r they saying one of the roomate's gun could have been in the closet...that doesn't make any sense? I am HOPING that this juror just wants to eliminate all possiblities regarding the gun.
 

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Well I really home that JM clears up all the confusion about today's first rebuttal. There are more questions than answers on the board about it and without question, the jury will be confused as well. Why did he use the Walmart receipt? What phone were the pics taken from? What was the point Was it only to show that her hair was a very dark brown or was there something else he was pointing out?

Bleh.

Pizzed me off.

moo

ETA - I think that in her braided hair "naughty" picture allegedly taken on June 4th on TA's bed her hair is lighter than on the June 3rd pics shown today.

Seriously? The jury knows the timeline, knows the import and implication of the change in hair colour, the significance of the Walmart receipt.
 

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This will be a long post, but I'm going to post JA's entire May 22 journal entry.
The whole damn thing is one big LIE!!



Thurs. May 22, 2008

Today has been a day of good news and sadness. Good news: my phone arrived! And not a moment too soon. Sad news: I finally had “the conversation” with Travis and it did not go well. I sort of put it to him already in an e-mail I sent a few days ago and he didn’t like that either, not nor did he take the hint. So I realized I had to be a little bit more direct. I told him that of course I’m looking for[ward] to his impending visit, that I can’t wait to check more things off the list (from 1,000 places), but that we probably would be better off in all ways if we were not physical.

He got offended and upset, then acted distant. I tried being so sweet and speak kindly to him, playing up all of the advantages of not violating the law of chastity, and he didn’t want to hear any of it. He said he already knows all that. Then it got worse, he asked me who I’m seeing, have I been getting my kicks with someone else, etc. Of course I swore that I wasn’t (which is true) but also pointed out that even if I was, then that’s my right. I also pointed out that I didn’t freak out when he confessed his potentially underlying love for Mimi. He said to leave his love life out of it. Typical. Then after a moment, he apologized, and said a lot of his frustration is from the fact that things in his dating life aren’t going that well, that yes, he still likes Mimi, but it’s not progressing the way he wants to, and he’s leaning towards giving up on her. I told him to be patient, she’ll come around.

The problem with Travis, is that he so used to guys girls falling all over themselves for him and she doesn’t do that. He needs that, I really think he does, –to wait.

Well, even sadder is we agreed to amicably part ways. He is an amazing person, and he’s told me countless times that I am one of the most beautiful people he’s ever met–on the inside and out. But it is really better this way. We both agreed to change our passwords, which we had exchanged eons ago to establish, or reestablish “trust” which we had both violated, so no more of that. We had both picked 2 accounts so I chose Facebook and Gmail and he chose Facebook and MySpace.

We are truly good people at the core, both of us, but we can’t behave ourselves when were around each other, not even over the phone. He said I am still like kryptonite to him. But I’m tired of being guilt-ridden when the air clears.

I knew it was wrong going over there all those nights but I couldn’t say no to him, I couldn’t not pick up the phone. He would rationalize it saying “it’s really not that bad,” or “come on, I want to please you,” and I was weak. I went anyway, I answered the phone anyway.

Moving has certainly helped me morally. I don’t know if it has him or if he’s found a replacement booty-call. For his sake I hope he hasn’t, not because it would be a replacement but because it is not spiritually productive. We both want to get married and I don’t think either of us is anywhere near that if we continue to act immorally w/each other. I am mortified that my phone was stolen. It had a hugely scandalous text message from him (10 pgs!) that he sent last week. It would make a steamy romance novel sound like a script from a G-rated Disney movie. I also had 1 or 2 recorded conversations that were equally as scandalous. I never did figure out how to play those back for him. Well they’re gone now and we won’t be making more. Well, actually I wouldn’t bet on it entirely, one of us will crack and call the other. It’s crazy, but what can you do?

Wherever my phone is now, I just hope text messages and conversations are never discovered. Yikes. It’s certainly not Pamela Anderson or Paris Hilton level scandal, there’s no videos but it would be embarrassing nonetheless.

I am honestly relieved about the whole thing. The “just friends” had many complicated “benefits.” I’m not seeing anyone per se, but somehow I feel like it’s still isn’t fair to any of my current prospects. And Travis said he still certain he wants to marry Mimi, although they’re not yet dating. It’s not fair to her either, in my opinion. We hadn’t talked about her in so long, I didn’t realize he was still in pursuit. I wouldn’t dare lecture him over it though. The first thing that almost popped out of my mouth was, “then why the hell are we still messing around if that’s the case?!?” But I kept it shut. For two reason[s.] 1: it would be like the pot calling the kettle black (as I’ve had my eyon eye on some wonderful’s myself. 2. I honestly don’t think Travis can be monogamous. I’m certain he wasn’t w/ me, although I don’t dwell on it anymore, but my certainty was further solidified when his pattern of behavior continued with his next girlfriend, Lisa Andrews. When he finally admitted that they had been dating, I felt so guilty. I almost wanted to tell her, it seemed only fair, but by then had already broken up and he had moved on to Mimi. Besides, not only would telling her destroy our friendship (mine and his), but it would cause a lot of unnecessary drama and pain. And just because Travis acted like a schmuck when it came to how he treated his previous girlfriends, doesn’t mean he’s capable of learning how to be better. It’s just that I’ve yet to see evidence of it. But perhaps it will be different w/ Mimi. One things for sure, I wouldn’t want to be the “other girl” in that relationship, I couldn’t handle the guilt. And these things don’t necessarily discount all of his other amazing qualities. He’s done more for me than I could ever cout count. He’s helped me in every area of my life. I’m indebted to him for all of the wonderful things that his done. He’s just so dang hot and cold. Bi-polar even, it would seem. But I have a gazillion memories that we’ve created that I will always value, just like the ones w/ Bobby, Matt, and Darryl. All unique. All special, all priceless.

Anyway, one thing I do know is it feels like a huge weight has been lifted off my shoulders. I’m saddened and, yes, but it feels like a conclusion, like closure. The final chapter was finally written, and the ending was bittersweet. He said on some level, we will always be friends, but we both agreed that it’s better this way. It’s true. It is very much in alignment with the e-mail I sent him a few days ago. He’ll be so much better off this way spiritually and emotionally. And I’ll start dating for real again soon. Not this casual fill-in-your-Friday-night stuff. I won’t miss his teasing or his bi-polar tendencies to snap and yell and say things he ends up regretting, but I will miss his sense of humor. We’ll still have his car to take care of, but he’ll keep me posted on any new developments. He said if all else fails, then we’ll just scrap it but I would…END

I don't doubt that had Mimi been at Travis' home that night she, too, would have been slaughtered.. JA was damned and determined that she was going to Cancun with Travis.. One last attempt failed.. She brought the gun, and knife in case he said "no"...She could not take rejection... She will be a threat to society if ever released.. There is no remorse in her talk or actions.. ..A cold blooded killer in the first degree.
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The line "we probably would be better off in all ways if we were not physical" is very telling - that means Jodi was preparing to make him out to be some "sexual monster" in planning for his murder, just in case she got caught. So that would go back to getting planning started all the way on May 10 (sex tape recording), and maybe even before that. I don't know exactly how defense counsel works...I mean do they come up with the strategy or does the client (Jodi). Because seems to me it has been Jodi's idea to focus on the sex parts...since that was part of her back-up plan to begin with.

After reading that journal article, it sure seems there was premeditation there. I believe IMHO that she already was coming up with a plan to destroy Travis for kicking her to the curb. All this nonsense about "we" decided to break up, or "I" decided to break up with him is pure BS. He threatened to expose her, and this entry was a set-up to make her look good. Lies -- all lies.

And if anyone is BP (as she called Travis), it's Jodi.

MOO

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Here we go, snippets of Jodi's journal entries: re: phone confusion clear-up and more.

Jodi writes Travis being bi-polar. :what:

Thurs. May 22, 2008

Today has been a day of good news and sadness. Good news: my phone arrived! And not a moment too soon. Sad news: I finally had “the conversation” with Travis and it did not go well. I sort of put it to him already in an e-mail I sent a few days ago and he didn’t like that either, not nor did he take the hint. So I realized I had to be a little bit more direct. I told him that of course I’m looking for[ward] to his impending visit, that I can’t wait to check more things off the list (from 1,000 places), but that we probably would be better off in all ways if we were not physical.

He got offended and upset, then acted distant. I tried being so sweet and speak kindly to him, playing up all of the advantages of not violating the law of chastity, and he didn’t want to hear any of it. He said he already knows all that. Then it got worse, he asked me who I’m seeing, have I been getting my kicks with someone else, etc. Of course I swore that I wasn’t (which is true) but also pointed out that even if I was, then that’s my right. I also pointed out that I didn’t freak out when he confessed his potentially underlying love for Mimi. He said to leave his love life out of it. Typical. Then after a moment, he apologized, and said a lot of his frustration is from the fact that things in his dating life aren’t going that well, that yes, he still likes Mimi, but it’s not progressing the way he wants to, and he’s leaning towards giving up on her. I told him to be patient, she’ll come around.

The problem with Travis, is that he so used to guys girls falling all over themselves for him and she doesn’t do that. He needs that, I really think he does, –to wait.

Well, even sadder is we agreed to amicably part ways. He is an amazing person, and he’s told me countless times that I am one of the most beautiful people he’s ever met–on the inside and out. But it is really better this way. We both agreed to change our passwords, which we had exchanged eons ago to establish, or reestablish “trust” which we had both violated, so no more of that. We had both picked 2 accounts so I chose Facebook and Gmail and he chose Facebook and MySpace.

We are truly good people at the core, both of us, but we can’t behave ourselves when were around each other, not even over the phone. He said I am still like kryptonite to him. But I’m tired of being guilt-ridden when the air clears.

I knew it was wrong going over there all those nights but I couldn’t say no to him, I couldn’t not pick up the phone. He would rationalize it saying “it’s really not that bad,” or “come on, I want to please you,” and I was weak. I went anyway, I answered the phone anyway.

Moving has certainly helped me morally. I don’t know if it has him or if he’s found a replacement booty-call. For his sake I hope he hasn’t, not because it would be a replacement but because it is not spiritually productive. We both want to get married and I don’t think either of us is anywhere near that if we continue to act immorally w/each other. I am mortified that my phone was stolen. It had a hugely scandalous text message from him (10 pgs!) that he sent last week. It would make a steamy romance novel sound like a script from a G-rated Disney movie. I also had 1 or 2 recorded conversations that were equally as scandalous. I never did figure out how to play those back for him. Well they’re gone now and we won’t be making more. Well, actually I wouldn’t bet on it entirely, one of us will crack and call the other. It’s crazy, but what can you do?

Wherever my phone is now, I just hope text messages and conversations are never discovered. Yikes. It’s certainly not Pamela Anderson or Paris Hilton level scandal, there’s no videos but it would be embarrassing nonetheless.

I am honestly relieved about the whole thing. The “just friends” had many complicated “benefits.” I’m not seeing anyone per se, but somehow I feel like it’s still isn’t fair to any of my current prospects. And Travis said he still certain he wants to marry Mimi, although they’re not yet dating. It’s not fair to her either, in my opinion. We hadn’t talked about her in so long, I didn’t realize he was still in pursuit. I wouldn’t dare lecture him over it though. The first thing that almost popped out of my mouth was, “then why the hell are we still messing around if that’s the case?!?” But I kept it shut. For two reason[s.] 1: it would be like the pot calling the kettle black (as I’ve had my eyon eye on some wonderful’s myself. 2. I honestly don’t think Travis can be monogamous. I’m certain he wasn’t w/ me, although I don’t dwell on it anymore, but my certainty was further solidified when his pattern of behavior continued with his next girlfriend, Lisa Andrews. When he finally admitted that they had been dating, I felt so guilty. I almost wanted to tell her, it seemed only fair, but by then had already broken up and he had moved on to Mimi. Besides, not only would telling her destroy our friendship (mine and his), but it would cause a lot of unnecessary drama and pain. And just because Travis acted like a schmuck when it came to how he treated his previous girlfriends, doesn’t mean he’s capable of learning how to be better. It’s just that I’ve yet to see evidence of it. But perhaps it will be different w/ Mimi. One things for sure, I wouldn’t want to be the “other girl” in that relationship, I couldn’t handle the guilt. And these things don’t necessarily discount all of his other amazing qualities. He’s done more for me than I could ever cout count. He’s helped me in every area of my life. I’m indebted to him for all of the wonderful things that his done. He’s just so dang hot and cold. Bi-polar even, it would seem. But I have a gazillion memories that we’ve created that I will always value, just like the ones w/ Bobby, Matt, and Darryl. All unique. All special, all priceless.

Anyway, one thing I do know is it feels like a huge weight has been lifted off my shoulders. I’m saddened and, yes, but it feels like a conclusion, like closure. The final chapter was finally written, and the ending was bittersweet. He said on some level, we will always be friends, but we both agreed that it’s better this way. It’s true. It is very much in alignment with the e-mail I sent him a few days ago. He’ll be so much better off this way spiritually and emotionally. And I’ll start dating for real again soon. Not this casual fill-in-your-Friday-night stuff. I won’t miss his teasing or his bi-polar tendencies to snap and yell and say things he ends up regretting, but I will miss his sense of humor. We’ll still have his car to take care of, but he’ll keep me posted on any new developments. He said if all else fails, then we’ll just scrap it but I would…END
 
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