GUILTY TRIAL OF CHAD DAYBELL CHARGED WITH MURDER OF JJ VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN AND TAMMY DAYBELL #7

[Diddian]

Wait - how well.could Tammy's cousin know Tylee?

She was interviewed by Lauren on Hidden True Crime and explained her relationship to various individuals associated with this case. It’s amazing, but she did know Tylee (I think they were at one time in the same ward - i.e., local church community - in Arizona). IIRC, she knew Tylee through that ward’s youth group activities and her daughter was friends with Tylee.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1796227573267275890

 

[indicolite22]

Interesting to look at the evidence, I wonder what the "unknown" DNA was on JJ. And I wish we knew what picture was deleted from Tammy's phone, I didn't see a time stamp on it.

So, the theory is that AC killed Tammy? Not CD?

It's like a pattern. Charles, probably the children, attempts at Brandon and Tammy and finally Tammy's death. Lori and Chad enlisted Alex to do their dirty work. That way they could claim they didn't kill (just assist).

 

[Love Never Fails]

My internet has been down all day. Just got it back and I’m trying to catch up. So I’m Eastern Time and jurors have only been deliberating 2 hours? And then their question was on premeditation of Tammy’s death?
I hope they come back soon. Guilty on all counts.

 

[Ruminations]

https://s3-assets.eastidahonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/25154953/daybell-indictment.pdf

This is the second kinda big mistake missed by so many.

There are so many social media sites where entire threads are highjacked explaining the difference between there, their, and they're.

I guess those editing specialists should stop picking on their peers' posts and start looking at indictments and jury instructions.

It is something that they are going through the 6th charge, 1st degree murder of Tammy. And it is listed after "conspiracy" to murder Tammy.

MOO

 

[wnk]

My internet has been down all day. Just got it back and I’m trying to catch up. So I’m Eastern Time and jurors have only been deliberating 2 hours? And then their question was on premeditation of Tammy’s death?
I hope they come back soon. Guilty on all counts.

Jurors have been deliberating since 8am Mountain Time (10am Eastern Time), so going on about 4 hours now.

The jury question was regarding some jury instructions that were missing on Count #6, which related to Tammy's death. The court drafted the missing instruction, Boyce read it to the jurors, and now we're back to deliberations.

 

[Ruminations]

Wait - how well.could Tammy's cousin know Tylee?

Pretty well.

Her daughter was in girls' camp with her. The families attended church together in Arizona.

HTC has a recent interview

MOO

 

[Diddian]

My internet has been down all day. Just got it back and I’m trying to catch up. So I’m Eastern Time and jurors have only been deliberating 2 hours? And then their question was on premeditation of Tammy’s death?
I hope they come back soon. Guilty on all counts.

Hope the jury was just making sure they got their ducks in a line and NOT that they believe there is room for doubt about CD’s role in TD’s murder. A guilty on everything else and NOT on that would provide support for CD’s and TD’s kids remaining in limbo land where death of their mother is concerned.

CD predicting TD’s death to many for years.
CD’s likely awareness that CV had emailed TD about the illicit relationship between Cd and LV.
CD proclaiming TD’s body taken over by one evil entity after another in the months before her death (while he was nursing the hots for LV).
The failed shooting attempt on TD’s life.
CD responding to LV’s concerns that the project was not being carried out by assuring her not only that the spirits (or whatever) told him the project would be fulfilled, but that he personally knew so.
CD rating TD’s closeness to death (something he shared with LV but not with TD, her family, her children, or her doctors).
The unaccounted for time between TD’s death and the call to 911.
The refusal of autopsy.
The hurry to get TD buried in the ground.
ETA: Determination by autopsy after exhumation that TD died by asphyxia, by homicide.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Hope the jury was just making sure they got their ducks in a line and NOT that they believe there is room for doubt about CD’s role in TD’s murder. A guilty on everything else and NOT on that would provide support for CD’s and TD’s kids remaining in limbo land where death of their mother is concerned.

CD predicting TD’s death to many for years.
CD’s likely awareness that CV had emailed TD about the illicit relationship between Cd and LV.
CD proclaiming TD’s body taken over by one evil entity after another in the months before her death (while he was nursing the hots for LV).
The failed shooting attempt on TD’s life.
CD responding to LV’s concerns that the project was not being carried out by assuring her not only that the spirits (or whatever) told him so, but he personally knew so.
CD rating TD’s closeness to death (something he shared with LV but not with TD, her family, her children, or her doctors).
The unaccounted for time between TD’s death and the call to 911.
The refusal of autopsy.
The hurry to get TD buried in the ground.

I believe some of those jurors will point these things out just as you did. There may be one juror who is holding out on Tammy. We don’t know how she died. We know asphyxiation but we don’t know details. JP pointed everything at AC but I feel Chad did this to Tammy or helped. Of course being that he put himself up as a prophet, killing could have been “beneath” him. The jerk!
Tammy was deemed dark with 0 percent life.
That tells me he premeditated the murder.

 

[Diddian]

I believe some of those jurors will point these things out just as you did. There may be one juror who is holding out on Tammy. We don’t know how she died. We know asphyxiation but we don’t know details. JP pointed everything at AC but I feel Chad did this to Tammy or helped. Of course being that he put himself up as a prophet, killing could have been “beneath” him. The jerk!
Tammy was deemed dark with 0 percent life.
That tells me he premeditated the murder.

It tells me that too.

And I believe his fingers played a part in forming those bruises made on TD’s arms in the minutes before she died. He was right there, assisting and witnessing and not giving a damn that he was stealing TD’s life from her, her children, her family, and her friends and other loved ones. A life that was a gift from God, taken by Chad.

It was the price of admission into Lori.

 

[indicolite22]

CD rating TD’s closeness to death (something he shared with LV but not with TD, her family, her children, or her doctors).

SBM. Emma testified, when asked about it by Lindsey Blake, that she knew that her mother was close to death. She was also familiar with death percentages. I wonder if that is true, or Emma was trying to normalize Chad's doctrine on JP's advice. IF Tammy's children were made to believe their mother would die soon, then there's no convincing them that she had been murdered.

 

[Ruminations]

I believe some of those jurors will point these things out just as you did. There may be one juror who is holding out on Tammy. We don’t know how she died. We know asphyxiation but we don’t know details. JP pointed everything at AC but I feel Chad did this to Tammy or helped. Of course being that he put himself up as a prophet, killing could have been “beneath” him. The jerk!
Tammy was deemed dark with 0 percent life.
That tells me he premeditated the murder.

There is no reason to jump to guessing that anyone is stuck on any count.

If I were the foreperson, or I'd suggest to the foreperson the following if it was established that we were likely to vote guilty on all counts:

Divide up the elements and divide into groups to ID where they are found in evidence.

That way, we could quickly give a well-reasoned verdict.

I would also want to spend some time discussing any cogent points from the defense, and why the jury does not think it moves the needle.

I would want to get through the decision as quickly as possible, but not feeling secure that everyone did agree and understand the group reasoning.

The jury asked a question on the 6th of 7 counts. If that means they are already through 5, they must be almost done. I think it is faster than my jury would be.

(Tip: don't make Ruminations foreperson. They can be excessively thorough.)

MOO

 

[Love Never Fails]

It tells me that too.

And I believe his fingers played a part in forming those bruises made on TD’s arms in the minutes before she died. He was right there, assisting and witnessing and not giving a damn that he was stealing TD’s life from her, her children, her family, and her friends and other loved ones. A life that was a gift from God, taken by Chad.

It was the price of admission into Lori.

And as Didduan pointed out, the fact that he said a new evil entity had entered Tammy’s body and then waiting several hours to call 911. Worst of all, having Garth help him and change their stories repeatedly. I had hoped Garth would man up and walk into court and tell the world he lied. I hope Seth and Mark and Leah know the truth. As for Emma and Garth, I just don’t feel sorry for them and their lies. Not at all.

 

[Diddian]

SBM. Emma testified, when asked about it by Lindsey Blake, that she knew that her mother was close to death. She was also familiar with death percentages. I wonder if that is true, or Emma was trying to normalize Chad's doctrine on JP's advice. IF Tammy's children were made to believe their mother would die soon, then there's no convincing them that she had been murdered.

I don’t think Emma was a credible witness. She has conflicting motivations in her testimony - truth on behalf of justice for her mother and other innocents vs protecting her sole remaining parent who is also “The Patriarch” in her family of origin - and I think she opted to serve the latter.

 

[Love Never Fails]

There is no reason to jump to guessing that anyone is stuck on any count.

If I were the foreperson, or I'd suggest to the foreperson the following if it was established that we were likely to vote guilty on all counts:

Divide up the elements and divide into groups to ID where they are found in evidence.

That way, we could quickly give a well-reasoned verdict.

I would also want to spend some time discussing any cogent points from the defense, and why the jury does not think it moves the needle.

I would want to get through the decision as quickly as possible, but not feeling secure that everyone did agree and understand the group reasoning.

The jury asked a question on the 6th of 7 counts. If that means they are already through 5, they must be almost done. I think it is faster than my jury would be.

(Tip: don't make Ruminations foreperson. They can be excessively thorough.)

MOO

lol. Your points are well taken.

I see it though as this jury sat through weeks of testimony. Then Ms. Blake put it all together.
Then John Prior got up and twisted the facts and lied twice that I was aware of.
That’s my reason for going with my gut and saying he is guilty on all counts. He didn’t love Tammy. He threw Lori under the bus, along with Alex who he carefully manipulated. To top it off, he doesn’t love his children either. He has taught his chikdren this rubbish. Will they have to live their lives believing this man didn’t hurt their mother? Or that he was a prophet who knew she was dying?

 

[887sMtreme]

It's like a pattern. Charles, probably the children, attempts at Brandon and Tammy and finally Tammy's death. Lori and Chad enlisted Alex to do their dirty work. That way they could claim they didn't kill (just assist).

But conspiracy would still work, right?

 

[Teche]

Tammy's cousin who knew Tylee said in an interview that Tylee didn't get along with Charles either. I understand that she took Lori's side. Back when Lori and Charles were still happily married I'd be surprised if Tylee had problems with Charles.

I believe Charles purchased Tyler’s vehicle and paid for cell phone service much of Lori’s family.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I believe Charles purchased Tyler’s vehicle and paid for cell phone service much of Lori’s family.

Tyler’s cousin also said Tyler was sick a lot. She believed Lori told her she was ill to control her.

 

[Ruminations]

I don’t think Emma was a credible witness. She has conflicting motivations in her testimony - truth on behalf of justice for her mother and other innocents vs protecting her sole remaining parent who is also “The Patriarch” in her family of origin - and I think she opted to serve the latter.

I think she came off as a liar. Her responses were too convenient. Too robotic. She didn't seem as much nervous about lying as angry anyone would question her father.

She put Chad ahead of Joseph as a patriarch in the cruiser video.

Garth mixed up his testimony which did seem like it was because he was nervous. But, I think it seemed like he was nervous because he knew he was being asked to lie, and was uncomfortable. He did get a little indignant when talking about the second grand jury, but even then, he did not pull off the arrogance his father and Emma have. Blake exploited the mixed up testimony, as she should have.

I don't think Emma or Garth helped Chad much, if at all. And, if the jury feels they flat out lied, they may have lost any credibility arguing to save his life in the sentencing phase. It depends how the jury perceives the lies: understandable? Or a cover-up?

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

I believe Charles purchased Tyler’s vehicle and paid for cell phone service much of Lori’s family.

Tylee was making her own jeep payments.