Found Deceased TX - Alan White, 55, seen leaving LA Fitness, Dallas, 22 Oct 2020

[tamsidea]

Forgive the dumb question, but what is the point of a carjacking whenever the perp just ends up leaving the car? Just to rob the driver?

Not any dumber than the source from which I will answer Allynator In the movies perps will ditch a "hot" car - like one that has received too much attention.

 

[Cryptic]

That gas station is so close to his house! From what they said, it looks like he drove away safely from the gas station.

As a side note, the gas station is in an overall safe area.

Though still containing noticeable rough spots (Maple street off of Inwood gets more than iffy for about a 10-12 block stretch), the area has seen very steady gentrification over the last ten years or so. Likewise, Harry Hines gets rougher as one moves north beyond the medical district.

But, the area not only gets DPD patrols, but many of the large hospitals run private security patrols on their grounds and nearby parking areas etc. that contribute to the overall sense of security.

Then factor in that the gas station in question is a Racetrac. Dallas Racetrac gas stations tend to be extremely well lit, fully staffed and have signs advertising that they are designated safe places for runaways and that staff will call police quickly if needed etc. I cant see that gas station as having a noticeably bad reputation with local police.

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Likewise, as for "bump and grab" type car jackings, the area is gentrified to the extent that a high end car at that gas station would not stand out to the extent that it would be an obvious target of opportunity.

 

[darring21]

Forgive the dumb question, but what is the point of a carjacking whenever the perp just ends up leaving the car? Just to rob the driver?

Criminals do things that aren't always well thought out. "This guy looks rich, let's take his stuff."

 

[legalmomma]

Or the original description was wrong? Gym video is black and white.

here is original gym video.
These are the final moments before Alan... - Allie Spillyards NBC5 | Facebook
a little side by side I did. He looks like he takes off a shirt and leaves another shirt on underneath when walking to car from gym. It doesn’t look to be the same red muscle shirt at gas to me. I can’t get a good glimpse of shoes to compare color in the gym video.

It does look like he was wearing a tshirt with sleeves when he left the gym.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

Folks, as per TOS, discussion about orientation is not allowed. (Already it has resulted in numerous posts having to be removed due to debate or bickering or general discussion about sexuality.)

Alan has a husband. Period.

It is not victim friendly to speculate negatively on a victim unless such speculation is based on known fact. IOW, do not speculate on a clandestine encounter unless there is known fact on which to base that discussion.

Thank you.

 

[Knox]

I noticed something last night and although very unlikely it's related to this, I'm gonna throw it out there. In the video there is a white work truck parked a few cars from Alan's car. It doesn't move or anything, then a white vehicle at the gas station ( not sure if its a SUV or truck) and in Alans pictures on his FB there is a white work truck in photos of homes he was working on. Granted the FB pics are from 2011 or so. I highly doubt we could get that lucky but it's been on my mind. IMO

If you Google map the home, there is a photo from Jan 2020. There is a work truck & trailer parked in front of the home, truck is not white.
Hope that helps.

 

[swanniee11]

If you Google map the home, there is a photo from Jan 2020. There is a work truck & trailer parked in front of the home, truck is not white.
Hope that helps.

That wasn’t where I was going with my comment ( I’m not sure where I’m going with it lol) just something that stood out to me I guess

 

[Tbone144]

That wasn’t where I was going with my comment ( I’m not sure where I’m going with it lol) just something that stood out to me I guess

I can tell you from experience, white trucks are commonplace, very common for fleet vehicles, very common for personal vehicles down here. We used to joke about a white truck being a suspects vehicle because it would be a needle in a hay stack. Out of the 20 or so vehicles that park in our lot, 4-5 are white trucks. I’ve heard people like them because they will stay cooler, also heard it’s because they will match the horse trailer (that may just be from the horse people). No worries about them looking like snowbanks or blending into the snow banks down here so I swear the ship them all down here.

 

[aggiekel2005]

Watching the video at the gas station has me wondering if he was planning to meet up with someone (not necessarily from a dating app, it could be selling something online, drugs, a work colleague, pretty much anything). He changed clothes/shirts which makes me think he didn't want to be sweaty or smell like sweat. Then he checks his phone after getting gas and then goes into the gas station where he seemingly wastes time. Makes me wonder if he was wandering around until whoever he was meeting was closer to his location or the meet-up location. I admit that I wander around stores sometimes (usually Target or the grocery store) if I need to waste time before being somewhere. On the other hand, I would assume LE has accessed his phone and would know if he was communicating with someone by now.

My other thought is that he could be waiting for someone to come to the gas station so he could follow them to a location under the ruse of something where he was then possibly robbed and harmed in some way... but if they robbed him, what would they have taken that was valuable enough to justify the crime? They haven't used his cards.

 

[Newsleuth1234]

As a side note, the gas station is in an overall safe area.

Though still containing noticeable rough spots (Maple street off of Inwood gets more than iffy for about a 10-12 block stretch), the area has seen very steady gentrification over the last ten years or so. Likewise, Harry Hines gets rougher as one moves north beyond the medical district.

But, the area not only gets DPD patrols, but many of the large hospitals run private security patrols on their grounds and nearby parking areas etc. that contribute to the overall sense of security.

Then factor in that the gas station in question is a Racetrac. Dallas Racetrac gas stations tend to be extremely well lit, fully staffed and have signs advertising that they are designated safe places for runaways and that staff will call police quickly if needed etc. I cant see that gas station as having a noticeably bad reputation with local police.

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Likewise, as for "bump and grab" type car jackings, the area is gentrified to the extent that a high end car at that gas station would not stand out to the extent that it would be an obvious target of opportunity.

Agreed. I drive that way to work. It’s got some riff raft from the nearby homeless shelter but they typically seem harmless. There are a lot of pedestrians around there because of the DART station and elementary and middle schools.
During that time of day there would likely be steady traffic of health care workers going to the medical district for work.
All that said, there was a random car jacking in the Park Cities (very affluent and nearby) and the woman was shot and killed in her driveway when it went sideways. They were caught but just adding to say that it happens.

 

[EnachiTX]

Or the original description was wrong? Gym video is black and white.

here is original gym video.
These are the final moments before Alan... - Allie Spillyards NBC5 | Facebook
a little side by side I did. He looks like he takes off a shirt and leaves another shirt on underneath when walking to car from gym. It doesn’t look to be the same red muscle shirt at gas to me. I can’t get a good glimpse of shoes to compare color in the gym video.

I'm with you in that he took off a shirt before leaving the gym. I think that is the only time he changed clothes. The red undershirt we see at Racetrac is because they use color cameras, as their canopies are lit to daylight levels 24x7. I'm thinking the gym is using night vision cams, which will make certain colors look totally different depending on the material(reflectivity). Red can look white, grey or even dark. Ambient lighting has an impact too.

 

[Cryptic]

Agreed. I drive that way to work. It’s got some riff raft from the nearby homeless shelter but they typically seem harmless.

Good point about the homeless from Salvation Army. I agree with your typically harmless impression. Salvation Army runs a very tight ship rule wise.

Likewise, a long while back, the city razed two seedy liquor stores by 35 that sold exclusively gut rot alcohol and drug use gear. In the end, even the area homeless are gentrifying (well, to a degree).

All that said, there was a random car jacking in the Park Cities (very affluent and nearby) and the woman was shot and killed in her driveway when it went sideways. They were caught but just adding to say that it happens.

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Good point about the horrible botched car jacking / murder in Park Cities. That gas station is far less secure than the Park Cities.

Had he arrived at the gas station by driving north on Maple to Inwood, he would have passed though an area where white guys in high end cars clearly stand out. Perhaps he was followed from that area?

 

[diggndeeperstill]

I'm with you in that he took off a shirt before leaving the gym. I think that is the only time he changed clothes. The red undershirt we see at Racetrac is because they use color cameras, as their canopies are lit to daylight levels 24x7. I'm thinking the gym is using night vision cams, which will make certain colors look totally different depending on the material(reflectivity). Red can look white, grey or even dark. Ambient lighting has an impact too.

Agree on the color, I’m just not 100% it’s a tank underneath, it looks a bit longer and more flowy to me than the tank... but really really hard to tell.

On the positive, I think there has to be more video from the gym so surely family knows exactly what color he was wearing, for me it’s hard to tell.

Still so many questions. I personally, don’t see self harm here.

 

[MidnightRadio]

Local who has taken an interest in this case here! Forgive me if this has been explained, but why did he take that route home?

I’ve read he went straight through the light out of LA Fitness-which makes total sense to me. If you go through the Target lot you can actually get on Lemmon behind there, which would be a straight shot home to Inwood. Taking Maple seems unnecessarily out of the way, especially given the time of day.

 

[rainynights]

Local who has taken an interest in this case here! Forgive me if this has been explained, but why did he take that route home?

I’ve read he went straight through the light out of LA Fitness-which makes total sense to me. If you go through the Target lot you can actually get on Lemmon behind there, which would be a straight shot home to Inwood. Taking Maple seems unnecessarily out of the way, especially given the time of day.

Welcome to WS MidnightRadio!

I haven't seen anything yet in MSM about the exact route Alan took from gym to RaceTrac. But it appears it may not have been on the most direct route back, as his brother does mention in this video that the RaceTrac on Inwood wasn't Alan's typical gas station and that he found it "kind of odd." Not sure where his usual gas station was, or how they'd know that, but I also wonder what may have led him to that particular gas station that morning. MOO

 

[bellesnwhistles]

Hmm so there’s no video of him released yet actually getting into the car and driving off correct? That’s interesting and reminds me a bit of when the Hannah Graham investigators released the video knowing the perp was in it but denied there being anything there. I know his family says he got back in and drove a certain route, but maybe there is more info they aren’t releasing right now. Why not show the whole video?

 

[Knox]

Local who has taken an interest in this case here! Forgive me if this has been explained, but why did he take that route home?

I’ve read he went straight through the light out of LA Fitness-which makes total sense to me. If you go through the Target lot you can actually get on Lemmon behind there, which would be a straight shot home to Inwood. Taking Maple seems unnecessarily out of the way, especially given the time of day.

Tim White agrees with you, listen to the video at link below. At the end, it seems Tim has something more to say but stops himself.
Family Releases New Surveillance Video Of Missing Dallas Man Alan White, Reward Increased

 

[swanniee11]

This is so disturbing. 1.3 miles from his home and he's missing. I hate to say this but I'm leaning at the house ( I actually have been) all IMO.

 

[realanastasia]

Do we know when he planned to return the loaner car? If it was to be returned that morning, or directly after work, it would make sense that he topped up the tank at that time (my car dealer insists that loaner cars be returned with as much fuel in them as they had when they left the dealership). Is it possible that he took an apparently unusual route that morning because he intended to go from getting gas right to the dealership to drop off the loaner?

 

[swanniee11]

Do we know when he planned to return the loaner car? If it was to be returned that morning, or directly after work, it would make sense that he topped up the tank at that time (my car dealer insists that loaner cars be returned with as much fuel in them as they had when they left the dealership). Is it possible that he took an apparently unusual route that morning because he intended to go from getting gas right to the dealership to drop off the loaner?

I don't know of a dealer that is open that early considering he had that meeting to get to as well. IMO