TX TX - Caleb Harris, 21, Texas A&M University student, Corpus Christi, 4 Mar 2024 #2

[Bigditch]

We've already had this.

The Uber Eats driver was a woman and she has already been contacted and cleared by LE.

The end.

Hi Annpats, I don't mean 'the driver' that night. I mean someone who might know the details of someone's order, time, address... hence, sending a message saying there is a problem with their order, we can't find your place, etc. It might be worth a second look. IAIS

 

[JackieBrown]

Hi Annpats, I don't mean 'the driver' that night. I mean someone who might know the details of someone's order, time, address... hence, sending a message saying there is a problem with their order, we can't find your place, etc. It might be worth a second look. IAIS

UberEats is a digital platform/app, and the only people involved in a transaction are the customer and the driver. Everything (dispatch, order issues) is handled through the app. Direct communication between driver and customer is managed directly via the app- there’s no other real life middle-man involved.

Edited to add: If this had been a restaurant order, a restaurant person would also be involved. For convenience and grocery stores, I am 99% sure the driver does the “shopping” as well. No order is sent to the store in the case of off-the shelf items AFAIK. Hop this helps!

 

[Bigditch]

UberEats is a digital platform/app, and the only people involved in a transaction are the customer and the driver. Everything (dispatch, order issues) is handled through the app. Direct communication between driver and customer is managed directly via the app- there’s no other real life middle-man involved.

Edited to add: If this had been a restaurant order, a restaurant person would also be involved. For convenience and grocery stores, I am 99% sure the driver does the “shopping” as well. No order is sent to the store in the case of off-the shelf items AFAIK. Hop this helps!

Thank you.

 

[flowershop]

According to the article that I have linked below:

CCPD says as of May 2, they've issued 82 preservation requests to social media providers, submitted 63 information requests to Apple, served 37 search warrants to various cell phone and internet providers, and issued 19 subpoenas to various social media and cell phone providers.

The FBI has issued subpoenas for financial records, and the U.S. Marshals have served seven search warrants to cell phone providers.

CCPD Forensic Computer Examiners have reviewed over 1500 gigabytes of data and continue to review data as it comes in.

Corpus Christi student from New Braunfels still missing after two months

It's been two months since a Corpus Christi college student from New Braunfels went missing. His family wants to keep his case in the spotlight, and they aren't giving up hope.

www.fox7austin.com

 

[branmuffin]

Just trying to understand - a known what? And why from the University?

I presume that the circumstances of hook ups involve meeting strangers. Strangers because they use pseudonyms online. But what if when the meeting happens they are surprised that this random stranger is someone who may be a professor or something like that?

 

[Janitor101]

According to the article that I have linked below:

CCPD says as of May 2, they've issued 82 preservation requests to social media providers, submitted 63 information requests to Apple, served 37 search warrants to various cell phone and internet providers, and issued 19 subpoenas to various social media and cell phone providers.

The FBI has issued subpoenas for financial records, and the U.S. Marshals have served seven search warrants to cell phone providers.

CCPD Forensic Computer Examiners have reviewed over 1500 gigabytes of data and continue to review data as it comes in.

Corpus Christi student from New Braunfels still missing after two months

It's been two months since a Corpus Christi college student from New Braunfels went missing. His family wants to keep his case in the spotlight, and they aren't giving up hope.

www.fox7austin.com

Do you think a perpetrator has been trying to access funds from Caleb's bank account by using various phone numbers? It seems the FBI has issued subpoenas for his financial records while the US Marshall's have issued search warrants for various cell phone carriers.

I'm probably way off base, but I keep wondering why there are so many LE specialists continuing to investigate Caleb's case.

 

[carbuff]

Do you think a perpetrator has been trying to access funds from Caleb's bank account by using various phone numbers? It seems the FBI has issued subpoenas for his financial records while the US Marshall's have issued search warrants for various cell phone carriers.

I'm probably way off base, but I keep wondering why there are so many LE specialists continuing to investigate Caleb's case.

That is a very good question.

It kind of seems like there might be something bigger than just Caleb going on.

 

[Sundog]

Hi Annpats, I don't mean 'the driver' that night. I mean someone who might know the details of someone's order, time, address... hence, sending a message saying there is a problem with their order, we can't find your place, etc. It might be worth a second look. IAIS

The store that Caleb regularly ordered from was closed, so he had to order his food from another store, further away. Also, the "no contact" delivery is the default order, he may have gone out to watch for the driver, given that this was a new store and likely new driver.

 

[Sundog]

I presume that the circumstances of hook ups involve meeting strangers. Strangers because they use pseudonyms online. But what if when the meeting happens they are surprised that this random stranger is someone who may be a professor or something like that?

I think a professor would know from the address that this was an apartment building where lots of undergraduate students lived, so they would know ahead of time that it was a risky contact.

 

[Kittybunny]

It’s surprising, yes. Considering FBI, US Marshalls, state and local law enforcement, plus the digital forensic evidence it is very difficult to understand why they are stymied.

Which is why I find myself in the minority on this case and thinking this is not foul play, but either misadventure or self harm, and Caleb has just gone a lot further and or in a different direction than he has been searched for. We also know from following cases here, how difficult it is to find bodies, even in areas where they are searched for.

Granted, I seem to have missed some obvious evidence of some sort of a hook up that everyone seems to refer to/assume.

I'm trying to recall the McKenzie Lueck case and how long it took for an arrest - I think it was really fast. That was a case of digital evidence that came out swiftly around a hook up.

 

[SimplyCass]

The store that Caleb regularly ordered from was closed, so he had to order his food from another store, further away. Also, the "no contact" delivery is the default order, he may have gone out to watch for the driver, given that this was a new store and likely new driver.

For anyone who's familiar, is there a 'real time tracking' for an Uber Eats order? Like for the regular Uber, you can see where the driver is and it will estimate how many minutes he/she will get to your location. Also you can message or call to change things. My opinion only - even if he did go outside to wait, his phone was off before the driver delivered, meaning that he would have had even less of an idea what time it might arrive.

I know it's been said this store was further away than the one Caleb would order from, but that location is still only three miles away from the apartments, which is five minutes by car.

I guess the only way we can really get a good idea of how usual or unusual the order was would be from his roommates. The dog was brand new (literally a couple of hours before) and the store location was "new" (unless he ordered from it before during the day, not been said).

 

[Valiant]

I am voting for 2 + 3. I dated a fisherman and he would go out anytime he could. And...going fishing at 3:30 am would not be unheard of. IMO, CH has a friendly face...very approachable. He may have met someone that invited him out fishing. Maybe, this person has a nice boat and CH couldn't resist. I mean, he wouldn't need to go back and get his fishing gear because this guy has everything needed.

Plus, the similarities between these two cases are quite a coincidence....I mean, look at the smile on this guy's face. TX - TX - Bradley Cy Brooks, 36, Corpus Christi, 18 Aug 2019

The thing is a serious fisherman will want his rods and reels and favorite lures.

 

[SMK777]

That was a case of digital evidence that came out swiftly around a hook up.

That’s what you’d expect, definitely. And what most were expecting here.

 

[Kittybunny]

For anyone who's familiar, is there a 'real time tracking' for an Uber Eats order? Like for the regular Uber, you can see where the driver is and it will estimate how many minutes he/she will get to your location. Also you can message or call to change things. My opinion only - even if he did go outside to wait, his phone was off before the driver delivered, meaning that he would have had even less of an idea what time it might arrive.

I know it's been said this store was further away than the one Caleb would order from, but that location is still only three miles away from the apartments, which is five minutes by car.

I guess the only way we can really get a good idea of how usual or unusual the order was would be from his roommates. The dog was brand new (literally a couple of hours before) and the store location was "new" (unless he ordered from it before during the day, not been said).

Re: UberEats order tracking, yes, it has the same tracking feature as regular Uber. You can see if the restaurant is preparing your order, where the driver is when they're on the way to pick it up, and then exactly where they are as they make their way towards you.

 

[10ofRods]

I still can't reconcile arranging a hookup at a homeless encampment underneath an overpass when there was a perfectly good Motel 6 in the general vicinity. It would be safer and probably easier to be spotted versus being amongst people milling around in a group of homeless people. On a side note, how do you keep a little dog under control on a long walk unless the dog's owner gave Caleb and friends a leash?

Then there is the problem of the dog. Does he ask for a ride back to the apartment to drop the dog off? A better question I guess would be why would he even bring the dog in the first place to meet a hookup?

The Motel Six nearest my house is near a homeless encampment - and a bridge. I'd link to its reviews on google if it wouldn't place me on a map!

But at any rate, THAT Motel Six is where everyone knows you go to score sex workers, meth, and other drugs. Constant police presence as the motel managers try to keep non-paying people out of the motel. We always feel badly for innocent travelers who might have selected that particular Motel 6.

The one I'm referencing is near an intersection where meth buyers stand, morosely, with cardboard signs made by their dealers - they have to beg for enough money to get another hit.

This information comes from my riding along in an unmarked police car and having it explained to me by LE some years ago.

IOW, there's no telling what kind of Motel 6 this one was - has anyone checked the reviews?

(I just checked them: that Motel 6 has some interesting negative reviews, a couple mention the unsavory people standing about; many mention other aspects of the motel that make me think it's a fleabag flophouse kind of motel). It is truly inexpensive though.

 

[SMK777]

The Motel Six nearest my house is near a homeless encampment - and a bridge. I'd link to its reviews on google if it wouldn't place me on a map!

But at any rate, THAT Motel Six is where everyone knows you go to score sex workers, meth, and other drugs. Constant police presence as the motel managers try to keep non-paying people out of the motel. We always feel badly for innocent travelers who might have selected that particular Motel 6.

The one I'm referencing is near an intersection where meth buyers stand, morosely, with cardboard signs made by their dealers - they have to beg for enough money to get another hit.

This information comes from my riding along in an unmarked police car and having it explained to me by LE some years ago.

IOW, there's no telling what kind of Motel 6 this one was - has anyone checked the reviews?

(I just checked them: that Motel 6 has some interesting negative reviews, a couple mention the unsavory people standing about; many mention other aspects of the motel that make me think it's a fleabag flophouse kind of motel). It is truly inexpensive though.

Would Caleb have been likely to use such a Motel 6 as a hookup point, rather than the beach? I guess at 21 sometimes you like the rough side of life because it’s new and exotic, maybe …..

 

[TIGER0822]

According to the article that I have linked below:

CCPD says as of May 2, they've issued 82 preservation requests to social media providers, submitted 63 information requests to Apple, served 37 search warrants to various cell phone and internet providers, and issued 19 subpoenas to various social media and cell phone providers.

The FBI has issued subpoenas for financial records, and the U.S. Marshals have served seven search warrants to cell phone providers.

CCPD Forensic Computer Examiners have reviewed over 1500 gigabytes of data and continue to review data as it comes in.

Corpus Christi student from New Braunfels still missing after two months

It's been two months since a Corpus Christi college student from New Braunfels went missing. His family wants to keep his case in the spotlight, and they aren't giving up hope.

www.fox7austin.com

Is there any information on bringing people in for questioning?

 

[TIGER0822]

That is a very good question.

It kind of seems like there might be something bigger than just Caleb going on.

I think this is pretty standard practice. And if someone harmed / held hostage CH in any way, they would not want to draw attention to themselves by trying to access his accounts. MOO

 

[10ofRods]

I can’t find where I read this, so I may be mistaken, but I thought the witness reported it earlier on the tip line, but never received a call back. So, after a time he found a way to reach the family more directly. Anyone else recall what my mind is telling me?

Also, the dog belonged to all of the roommates. They decided they were sharing ownership of it.

I agree the timeline was hard enough to reconcile without further extending the time Caleb was awake, and not getting some shuteye.. I mean, how little of sleep does he get by on? He already had a day of fishing on Sunday the 3rd, and then on Monday the 4th he had class and was going to fish again afterwards…
Ah, to be young, I guess! I’d be so tired!

JMO

I think you bring up a really interesting point - and in my mind, it's where I keep feeling as if I need an explanation. I realize that college students do not keep regular schedules. However, many of them do use stimulants of various kinds (Source: q'naires given to over 2000 of my own students in the past 7 years). I am including lots of coffee, but frankly, it's often something else as well.

OTOH, Caleb is at an age where such illnesses as bipolar first begin their slow ramp-up.

And, some people just generally don't sleep much. But that's three different hypotheses (and the people who don't sleep much may be experiencing some cognitive changes as a result).

There is other research that shows that exam time is exceptionally stressful for college students. A large survey at my own college replicated the national stats: lots of anxiety and depression; 1 out of 6 of our students said they had contemplated suicide in the past 3 months. 1 out of 15 had considered a specific method of suicide. Even more students reported anxiety or panic attacks.

So I guess my initial impressions always go towards mental health and cognitive functioning of the missing person. If in fact Caleb was having trouble sleeping (for whatever reason), after putting the dog back in the apartment, what did he do next?

Some here on this thread seem to think if's useful to consider that the bridge report was accurate - others think it might be in error. There is a large body of water nearby. Statistically, the literature on missing persons indicates that for young males, bodies of water are a leading risk. Lots of other cases we've covered here have that component (or the still-missing went missing near a body of water).

Riley Strain
(MO)

Owen Klinger
(OR)

Plus that case where the frantic young man contacted his parents by phone, where first he said he was in the middle of nowhere, lost, and his GPS did place him near a river. He utters a last expletive as he apparently goes into the water.

We know that Caleb loved being near the water, we know he seems to have slept less than many of us do.

All just IMO and musings.

 

[Bigditch]

Someone Knows Something ... about what happened to Caleb.