GUILTY TX - Ethan Couch 'Affluenza Teen' DUI driver who killed four gets probation, 2013 #2

[dizzychick]

The only reason I can imagine why Ethan would want to stay in Mexico is to obtain a bond and then abscound to a country that does not have an extradiction treaty with the US. That is my prediction. I remember ole Jesse James Hollywood tried this one and it worked for around 5 years but then he had to pay the piper and I predict Ethan will too.

 

[LillyP]

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Tonya-Couch-Experts-Reveal-What-Lies-Ahead---364085591.html

Here's an expert's opinion on what lies ahead for Tonya Couch.

I read the article and have a question.
Near the middle of the article Ethan is mentioned.
It says

The is the chance down there that the Mexican lawyer is successful, he could get released, and then be left in Mexico," said Schulte. "And then Mr. Couch will be on his way to go wherever he wants, and we kind of start the process over.

That sentence doesn't make any sense to me. That is exactly how it was written word for word I just copied and pasted it here.
If I am interpreting it correctly, is it saying that there is a chance that if the Mexican Lawyer is succesful, Ethan could get released and left in Mexico out of jail on his own ?

 

[LillyP]

A second question I had is:
Ethan was put on probation for 10 years. He has now violated it and can be kept in jail in Texas until he is 19. (120 days)
What would have happened if Ethan didn't violate his probation until he was say 19 and a half? Since they can't keep him in jail past 19 now, I'm a bit confused on what could have happened to him after turning 19 if he violated it then instead since it was a juvenile sentence.

 

[seattlechiquita]

I was wondering what happened about the gun too, so I have been told having a gun in Mexico is a big big deal even a lone bullet can get you in hot water. It must have been a mistake or something weird is happening behind the scenes that we are not privy to. I cannot imagine anyone opting to serve out your jail time in a mexican prison vs. a US one, the whole thing is bizzare.

I would like to mention if anyone is angry at the judge for giving him such a light sentence of 10 years probated, realize they knew from the get go that this kid could not behave for 10 minutes much less 10 years, so I think they were expecting him to screw up much sooner and thus be sent to the big boy jail for the remaining years he has left.

Correct. Mexican citizens do not have any 2nd amendment excuses I mean rights to carry arms. When I was in fear of my accidental husband going berserk, I tried getting a gun legally for protection. People, I would still be waiting for that permit.

 

[faw720]

I read the article and have a question.
Near the middle of the article Ethan is mentioned.
It says


That sentence doesn't make any sense to me. That is exactly how it was written word for word I just copied and pasted it here.
If I am interpreting it correctly, is it saying that there is a chance that if the Mexican Lawyer is succesful, Ethan could get released and left in Mexico out of jail on his own ?

I think so, but actually, I don't know. Nothing about this case has made any logical sense from the get-go. The whole thing is a travesty of justice & it always has been!!

 

[faw720]

A second question I had is:
Ethan was put on probation for 10 years. He has now violated it and can be kept in jail in Texas until he is 19. (120 days)
What would have happened if Ethan didn't violate his probation until he was say 19 and a half? Since they can't keep him in jail past 19 now, I'm a bit confused on what could have happened to him after turning 19 if he violated it then instead since it was a juvenile sentence.

Who knows????????? There is absolutely nothing that I understand about this case except that Ethan is apparently getting away with killing 4 people.

 

[seattlechiquita]

Who knows????????? There is absolutely nothing that I understand about this case except that Ethan is apparently getting away with killing 4 people.

Not apparently m'dear... truly. He is getting away with, at least, vehicular homicide or whatever we want to call it. And there seems to be nothing, zero, zip, nada that anyone can do about it. Next time - and believe me, there will be a next time- I don't even want to think about it...

 

[dizzychick]

Just recently Texas passed a new law that all these bratty kids were getting into trouble partly due to poverty ( not in Ethan's case) and so they decided that after the little imps get out of jail they are offered a FREE 4 year ride to any state college of their choice books and all. I was livid when I found that out ! I have to shell out over 100 grand for my kid who has never commited a crime and these little punks get a free ride. Not fair ! and I dont want to pay for their school, no way Jose

 

[faw720]

http://www.fox4news.com/68773478-story

Ethan Couch reported to have spent 2K in Mexico strip clubs. A few days ago there were several people feeling sorry for 'poor' Ethan. I wonder if they still feel that way?

 

[LillyP]

http://www.fox4news.com/68773478-story

Ethan Couch reported to have spent 2K in Mexico strip clubs. A few days ago there were several people feeling sorry for 'poor' Ethan. I wonder if they still feel that way?

Well whoever did the reporting was wrong. Ethan actually spent $0 on strip clubs. It's been reported many times that mommy paid for him to go to strip clubs hwow:

I guess he was lucky that he wasn't arrested when he couldn't pay his strip club bill and mommy had to come to the rescue for him yet again and pay off his tab!

 

[SCHMAE]

I'd say why deport him now ? If he maxed out his ' debit card' ( which im sure someone else's bank account was attached to ) and his mom had to pay his bills, then he has no money. Shocker So now he's currently in jail , in Mexico and penniless. Let him be. He'll be fine there !

 

[JeannaT]

Just recently Texas passed a new law that all these bratty kids were getting into trouble partly due to poverty ( not in Ethan's case) and so they decided that after the little imps get out of jail they are offered a FREE 4 year ride to any state college of their choice books and all. I was livid when I found that out ! I have to shell out over 100 grand for my kid who has never commited a crime and these little punks get a free ride. Not fair ! and I dont want to pay for their school, no way Jose

What new law is that? I'm in Texas and am unaware.

Thanks!

 

[JeannaT]

Well whoever did the reporting was wrong. Ethan actually spent $0 on strip clubs. It's been reported many times that mommy paid for him to go to strip clubs hwow:

I guess he was lucky that he wasn't arrested when he couldn't pay his strip club bill and mommy had to come to the rescue for him yet again and pay off his tab!

I see what you're saying, but there is NO WAY a strip club would have a patron arrested when it appeared they may be able to recover the money this kid spent instead. So the bartender escorted him to his mom's place, and the bill was paid.

 

[LillyP]

I wonder, of the above mentioned 2k spent at strip clubs how many times was that for? One visit? 2, 3? I'm curious if this was a reoccurring theme where Ethan went to strip clubs with no $, racked up a huge tab and then sent the staff to his mom to pay for it?
Did he rack up a bill for 2k in Mexico in one night or did this happen many times where Tonya paid the strip club bill for him?

 

[faw720]

Well whoever did the reporting was wrong. Ethan actually spent $0 on strip clubs. It's been reported many times that mommy paid for him to go to strip clubs hwow:

I guess he was lucky that he wasn't arrested when he couldn't pay his strip club bill and mommy had to come to the rescue for him yet again and pay off his tab!

You DO have a point!

 

[faw720]

I can't even begin to imagine what the next revelation in this case is going to be!! It is just a nightmare that keeps getting worse & worse.

 

[nrdsb4]

It shouldn't have been anything in disguise. That same judge had no problems when she sentenced a poor 16 year old to 20 years in actual prison (not probation) for a similar offense (but only one person killed, instead of four).

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/fort-worth/article52741505.html

Speculation is that there were some differences in that case which influenced her decision, one being that he stole a truck right before killing his victim:

One difference in the Miller case is that he committed a felony when stealing the pickup. Under the Texas Penal Code, a person can be charged with murder if while committing a felony he or she also performs an act clearly dangerous to human life and causes the death of another person.

He also tried to pin the crime on another teen. Ethan never did that.

Miller got drunk and ended up at a convenience store near Castleberry High School. Someone in the store had a pickup running, and Miller jumped in and took off.

About 11:30 p.m., as Andress was turning off White Settlement Road, the stolen pickup slammed into Andress’ car. Miller ran and then tried to blame the crash on another teen, according to police.

Miller could have been released after serving his juvenile portion of his sentence:

Prosecutors sought a 40-year sentence; after a three-hour sentencing hearing June 11, 2004, Boyd gave Miller 20 years. Under sentencing guidelines, Miller would serve the first part of his sentence in the Texas Youth Commission and after his time there — and depending on his progress during rehabilitation — could be paroled under the state’s supervision or sent to adult prison.

And indeed, he was paroled after serving four years.

But then he got in trouble again:

Knowing that he had unpaid traffic tickets, Miller sped away from Perkins on Churchill Street, not far from where he had killed Andress.

Miller eventually abandoned his pickup and was apprehended while trying to run away, said Christopher Spieldenner, River Oaks deputy police chief.

“The chase lasted long enough to where it involved almost everyone who was on duty at the time,” Spieldenner said in 2013.

Miller was arrested on a charge of evading arrest and detention and was sentenced to five years in prison after pleading guilty. Additional years were added to his sentence — stemming from the murder conviction — because his parole was revoked, according to court records.

This kid could also have served relatively minimal time, but like Ethan, this leopard did not lose his spots.

Ethan will re-offend as an adult. Hopefully, he will finally feel the weight of a very large book being thrown full force at him.

 

[peedoffinny]

Just recently Texas passed a new law that all these bratty kids were getting into trouble partly due to poverty ( not in Ethan's case) and so they decided that after the little imps get out of jail they are offered a FREE 4 year ride to any state college of their choice books and all. I was livid when I found that out ! I have to shell out over 100 grand for my kid who has never commited a crime and these little punks get a free ride. Not fair ! and I dont want to pay for their school, no way Jose

I'm going to have to pack my daughter up, move her to Texas and teach her how to steal and maybe mug a few people. Will Texas pay for a PHD if she murders someone?

 

[nrdsb4]

Just recently Texas passed a new law that all these bratty kids were getting into trouble partly due to poverty ( not in Ethan's case) and so they decided that after the little imps get out of jail they are offered a FREE 4 year ride to any state college of their choice books and all. I was livid when I found that out ! I have to shell out over 100 grand for my kid who has never commited a crime and these little punks get a free ride. Not fair ! and I dont want to pay for their school, no way Jose

Can you please provide a link to this law of which you speak?

 

[nrdsb4]

I'm going to have to pack my daughter up, move her to Texas and teach her how to steal and maybe mug a few people. Will Texas pay for a PHD if she murders someone?

I don't believe there is a new law guaranteeing violent juvenile offenders free tuition at "the state college of their choice" in Texas.