TX TX - Julie Moseley, 9, Mary Trlica, 17, Lisa Wilson, 14, Fort Worth, 23 Dec 1974 #7

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If I know DA she was probably running the place after ALL on the 22nd and early morning she's at the bowling alley. the pizza inn. Gino's. and playing cards with her sister. In my opinion it would (but we ALL have opinions).
Seriously, though, what jobs could a 19 yr old legally have held, in a Gentleman's Club (assuming she worked there legally)?
BTW, I wonder if she bought/maintained her car, or if a boyfriend or admirer did.
 
hints at certain indvidual who got access to case files and took advantage of it in the worst and most damaging way possible - messing with the actual original files to make it fit certain narrative.
This has concerned me  deeply for two reasons--
1.  Why would he do that (unless he's involved somehow, or  seriously trying to cover for someone)? He could've worked whatever "narrative" he wanted, without corrupting police files.
2. How in the universe are LE supposed to solve a case, with compromised case files? Unless they aren't.
 
What was DA's job at Gino's, and would that have  really given her OC connections?
It is my opinion that CA and his brother had some ties to OC through racing and business. Maybe with people on the old Jacksboro Hwy in Fort Worth (which had shady groups, bars, and businesses, etc). It’s a rabbit hole and really all hearsay but maybe that’s how DA got to know the people she worked for.
 
It is my opinion that CA and his brother had some ties to OC through racing and business. Maybe with people on the old Jacksboro Hwy in Fort Worth (which had shady groups, bars, and businesses, etc).
Did CA's brother have any investment interest in CA's racing career or the transmission shops?
It’s a rabbit hole and really all hearsay but maybe that’s how DA got to know the people she worked for.
I've been trying to figure out a plausible explanation for how she came to be working where she did. This makes sense.
 
Just to rule something out, how likely is it that CA wasn't merely mismanaging the shop, but owed money (say, on a racing or gambling debt) elsewhere, and was "robbing Peter to pay Paul" (unsuccessfully)?
 
Did CA's brother have any investment interest in CA's racing career or the transmission
Did CA's brother have any investment interest in CA's racing career or the transmission shops?

I've been trying to figure out a plausible explanation for how she came to be working where she did. This makes sense.
It has been years since I went down the rabbit hole regarding CA’s brother. I just remember lots of red flags and looking into him is how I discovered how seamy the old Jacksboro Hwy was. I think a lot of illegal gambling went on there back in the day, maybe even into the 80’s or 90’s.
 
When you say 'organised crime' , do you mean organised crime was responsible for the three girls going missing or just being involved in the 'clean up' afterwards ?

I would tend go with the latter (if OC was involved at all).
Something doesn't add up here. According to James, SM was on the scene before the girls went missing. So if we're saying that SM's presence indicates OC was involved, it had to be planned (premeditated). If it was financially motivated (as some believe), it almost had to involve the girls being exchanged for money (trafficked/sold), possibly to "settle a debt". It means (quite possibly) that DA contacted SM sometime the day before. Allegedly, SM was at Minot when Rachel left to pick up Renee. No one knew, at that point, Julie would be joining them. DA and SM are at the house at least part of the day, theoretically; ST places herself there at around 12:30 pm, seeing all three girls, alive and well (which I doubt). I'm wondering if DA (perhaps with SM ) was the "someone they trusted" that the girls left the Mall with.
So, what happened? And just how reliable is James?
 
Something doesn't add up here. According to James, SM was on the scene before the girls went missing. So if we're saying that SM's presence indicates OC was involved, it had to be planned (premeditated). If it was financially motivated (as some believe), it almost had to involve the girls being exchanged for money (trafficked/sold), possibly to "settle a debt". It means (quite possibly) that DA contacted SM sometime the day before. Allegedly, SM was at Minot when Rachel left to pick up Renee. No one knew, at that point, Julie would be joining them. DA and SM are at the house at least part of the day, theoretically; ST places herself there at around 12:30 pm, seeing all three girls, alive and well (which I doubt). I'm wondering if DA (perhaps with SM ) was the "someone they trusted" that the girls left the Mall with.
So, what happened? And just how reliable is James?
I don't think anything was planned. I think whatever happened happened ( rage-accident-drug deal gone bad- bad fall-etc.) and then everything was done by the seat of their pants. By blind luck everything went their way (whoever their is).
 
I don't think anything was planned. I think whatever happened happened ( rage-accident-drug deal gone bad- bad fall-etc.) and then everything was done by the seat of their pants. By blind luck everything went their way (whoever their is).
If P.I. James was full of crap (or mistaken), you may be right. But 48 years is a long time for blind luck to hold...
 
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I don't think anything was planned. I think whatever happened happened ( rage-accident-drug deal gone bad- bad fall-etc.) and then everything was done by the seat of their pants. By blind luck everything went their way (whoever their is).
In April, 2021, you posted: "I believe all three girls were killed that day and were disposed of by organized crime and that's why there hasn't been a trace to be found in 45 years and Yes I believe some family members were involved.JMO"
I'm not attacking you, but I'd like to know what has made you change your mind (if that's the case).
 
Did any truly helpful, insightful information come out of either of the Private Investigators' involvement in this case? Or did they simply confuse matters? Swaim was hired because LE was making no progress (and supposedly committed suicide), and James "volunteered" out of personal interest in the case (and his motives and sources were questioned from day 1).
Sorry, just had to vent...
 
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SM is suspicious. Dan James's notes to LE has SM at Minot on the 22nd. His notes say SM was at the Bowling Alley on the 22nd and also at the Pizza Inn that night on the 22nd with DA. His notes also say DA lived with SM sometime between Sept. and Nov. of 1974. His notes also say TT said SM's car was at Minot when he left for work and was there at Minot when he got back from work BUT then DA says TT never came to Minot before he went Bowling. This is where the more you know is the more you don't know it's more like OK whose telling the Truth here. I think TT and DA have been playing off each other for 48 years. I would be very surprised if they didn't talk with each other to this day.
Could these notes be considered part of evidence allegedly "planted in police files" by James (along with the alleged "love letter" from DA to TT)?
 
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Did any truly helpful, insightful information come out of either of the Private Investigators' involvement in this case? Or did they simply confuse matters? Swaim was hired because LE was making no progress (and supposedly committed suicide), and James "volunteered" out of personal interest in the case (and his motives and sources were questioned from day 1).
Sorry, just had to vent...
I'm not sure about Swaim, but I've got real misgivings about James. Everything about him sounds off, and I feel like he caused trouble and stirred the pot but didn't really progress anything solid.
 
Could these notes be considered part of evidence allegedly "planted in police files" by James (along with the alleged "love letter" from DA to TT)?
I have trouble believing LE just handed over files to someone in the first place, nevermind that they would then leave that person alone to change/ remove/ add info.
Personal opinion is they gave James a copy of some documents and he talked himself up into having been able to access the full files. He seemed to be able to convince RA of anything
 
I have trouble believing LE just handed over files to someone in the first place, nevermind that they would then leave that person alone to change/ remove/ add info.
Personal opinion is they gave James a copy of some documents and he talked himself up into having been able to access the full files. He seemed to be able to convince RA of anything
So it's quite possible that no one outside LE have ever really had access to all the actual case files. What about the allegations of tampering? I guess a better question might be, who would know (outside LE) that the files had been tampered with?
 
I'm not sure about Swaim, but I've got real misgivings about James. Everything about him sounds off, and I feel like he caused trouble and stirred the pot but didn't really progress anything solid.
Did LE ever appear to act on anything he publicized? Or did they basically ignore him?
 
So it's quite possible that no one outside LE have ever really had access to all the actual case files. What about the allegations of tampering? I guess a better question might be, who would know (outside LE) that the files had been tampered with?
Well I doubt anyone would know outside LE. There seem to be a lot of lies that get passed around like chinese whispers in this case, and I'd guess this might be the case here. If LE had ever allowed James any access though, they would now know he had tampered with the files so it would have been a pretty pointless thing for him to do and then tell people he had done it.
Did LE ever appear to act on anything he publicized? Or did they basically ignore him?
I don't think we know what LE have acted on really.
 
In April, 2021, you posted: "I believe all three girls were killed that day and were disposed of by organized crime and that's why there hasn't been a trace to be found in 45 years and Yes I believe some family members were involved.JMO"
I'm not attacking you, but I'd like to know what has made you change your mind (if that's the case).
Haven't changed my mind at ALL I still believe this.
 
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