TX TX - Live Oak Co, WhtFem UP4626, 24-34, on creek bank, DVF glasses, Nov'80

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  1. malaika

    malaika New Member

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    Good find, I would try to locate this UID's NAMUS page [www.identifyus.org] and see if the missing person is listed as a ruleout.
    Also see if the NAMUS missing page [www.findthemissing.org] has a profile for her; theoretically if they both have DNA entered, and both are in the NAMUS system, they would be automatically ruled out as a match [although personally I don't know how much I trust the accuracy of that system, it's supposed to be automatic.]
     
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    Namus doesn't have any rule outs for this UID, and says there is no fingerprints, DNA, or dentals, but on the doe network its says both have dentals.
     
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    Here is the UID's Namus page. No ruleouts listed and it states that no DNA or dentals are currently available.

    https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/4626

    The Doe Network page, however, says dentals are available.

    Denise's Namus page states that dentals are entered and available.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/29728/1533

    It doesn't appear they've been compared and this would not be an automatic ruleout without DNA available for the UID. However, since it appears both have dentals available (if Doe Network is correct), they should be easily comparable. You should call this in.


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  7. Peppered_peach

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    I've never submitted anything. Any ideas where to start?
     
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    Yes! Not hard, just intimidating the first time. Some contacts are more receptive than others. Follow up if you don't hear back. Here are screenshots of the contacts for both the UID and Denise. I always contact both because I hope at least one of them will be interested. When you call, make sure you have all relevant information in front of you - case numbers, identifiers available (in this case both have dentals), and why you think this is a good match. In UID's case, you can email all of this to Michael Nance with a side by side comparison of all vitals to make your case. If you have to leave a VM for Denise's contact, make sure you leave your contact information and all case numbers.

    Good luck!

    If anyone else has any advice, please chime in! [​IMG][​IMG]


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  9. Peppered_peach

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    Thanks for your help. I'll see what I can do. Might take me a few days to get everything together, but I'll try.
     
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    Submitted Denise Dorfman today. Hopefully I did everything ok. I followed the guidelines that I read on the sticky notes. Yikes. 😬
     
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    Denise Dorfman has been excluded for this UID.
     
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    At least you got a response and answer very quickly.
     
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    Good for you for submitting your first attempt. But hopefully not the last!
     
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    Nope I'm gonna keep going. One question though. If both parties are in Namus, and have dentals, are the dentals ran against each other automatically, or is that just fingerprints and DNA?
     
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    They do compare dentals and will flag some for hand comparison, but generally no, there aren't automatic dental ruleouts.

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    how about Patty Lisa McDaniel?

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3731dffl.html
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/34730/0/

    The age is under and the height is off but if you look in NamUs it states 54 to 56 inches for both sisters. I wonder if it should be 5'4" to 5'6" for them both. That height seems a little more realistic for their weight and for the one pic where they are standing. I cant seem to figure out a side by side but if anyone can do it that would be great.

    The glasses scare me
     

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