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Nothing so far explains the "perplexing" description.
Found Deceased TX - Savanah Soto, 18, Leon Valley, 22 December 2023
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I bet it won’t be long before an arrest is made in this case.
San Antonio police detectives are probably already reviewing text and social media messages to and from both victims and looking at video from various cameras in the area. There would have to be A LOT of cameras in and around this highly populated area.
San Antonio police detectives are probably already reviewing text and social media messages to and from both victims and looking at video from various cameras in the area. There would have to be A LOT of cameras in and around this highly populated area.
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Be patient. It's coming.
My impression is the groups MG, SS, and ES were around are all pretty small and known to each other well. Probably several members of the same family involved at some levels.
I think the list of suspects is also going to be pretty small, and the connections will be apparent soon, if not already known.
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He also said, that Lina Sardar Khil's family (who was from Afghanistan) spoke an "uncommon Arabic dialect"..
But what was perplexing about that, was that as Chief of Police, he's running the show and Pashto translators were arranged and as a city with lots of military connections to Iraq and Afghanistan and translators, I was like, "Huh?"
I'm not reading much into it!
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Thank you. I was unfamiliar with this term.
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Two bodies found inside a car, believed to belong to a missing Texas teen who was nine months pregnant and her boyfriend, each had a gunshot wound, police said Wednesday.
“The medical examiner’s office will conduct a death investigation to determine cause of death and confirmation of the victims’ identity,” a Wednesday police statement said. “This investigation remains ongoing.”
The case has been listed as a “Capital Murder due to the death of an unborn child,” San Antonio Police Lt. Michelle Ramos told CNN Wednesday.
“The medical examiner’s office will conduct a death investigation to determine cause of death and confirmation of the victims’ identity,” a Wednesday police statement said. “This investigation remains ongoing.”
The case has been listed as a “Capital Murder due to the death of an unborn child,” San Antonio Police Lt. Michelle Ramos told CNN Wednesday.
I think it can still be capital murder if the suspect is presumed dead. I also think it could be "perplexing" to murder your gf on the day she's supposed to give birth to your child. I'm remaining open to all possibilities right now, though.
Here are my take aways:
There’s a history of DV, There’s gang activity related to deceased, they were both shot,The child was unborn, the families are telling opposing details ( who was in the front or back seats).
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There’s a history of DV, There’s gang activity related to deceased, they were both shot,The child was unborn, the families are telling opposing details ( who was in the front or back seats).
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Ok, if true, this changes things in a big way. We're talking a likely execution style double murder at a separate location, and their bodies being dumped in the vehicle afterwards:
Laura Cordova said a detective told her that Guerra was found slumped over in the backseat of the vehicle, and that Soto was in the front.
Soto was holding a car seat, according to her mother.
"She had the car seat on her lap, so she was going to the hospital," Gloria Cordova said.
Police have said that the car might have been at the location where it was found "possibly for three or four days."
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Crime scene details
Soto's brother, Jordan Corona, told CBS News that police told him there was no weapon found at the scene, and that both Guerra and Soto were shot in the back of the head.Laura Cordova said a detective told her that Guerra was found slumped over in the backseat of the vehicle, and that Soto was in the front.
Soto was holding a car seat, according to her mother.
"She had the car seat on her lap, so she was going to the hospital," Gloria Cordova said.
Police have said that the car might have been at the location where it was found "possibly for three or four days."
Mom says pregnant Texas teen found shot to death with boyfriend "was just there at the wrong time"
Savanah Nicole Soto's family said the pregnant teen was in a "rocky" relationship but was excited about having the baby.
www.cbsnews.com
Another possibility for "perplexing" is "coffin birth" which can occur 48-72 hours post mortem of the mother. An expelled fetus with the mother would be a difficult sight to behold.
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Coffin birth - Wikipedia
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No weapon found at the scene, she was shot in the back of the head, AND she had a car seat in her lap? That's.... odd. I'm having a hard time imagining what went on.Ok, if true, this changes things in a big way. We're talking a likely execution style double murder at a separate location, and their bodies being dumped in the vehicle afterwards:
Crime scene details
Soto's brother, Jordan Corona, told CBS News that police told him there was no weapon found at the scene, and that both Guerra and Soto were shot in the back of the head.
Laura Cordova said a detective told her that Guerra was found slumped over in the backseat of the vehicle, and that Soto was in the front.
Soto was holding a car seat, according to her mother.
"She had the car seat on her lap, so she was going to the hospital," Gloria Cordova said.
Police have said that the car might have been at the location where it was found "possibly for three or four days."
Mom says pregnant Texas teen found shot to death with boyfriend "was just there at the wrong time"
Savanah Nicole Soto's family said the pregnant teen was in a "rocky" relationship but was excited about having the baby.
I dunno, someone could shoot someone in the back of the head as they were distracted putting a car seat in the car and then shove the body into the backseat and shoot themselves in the drivers seat. Still playing a bit of devils advocate until we know more.Ok, if true, this changes things in a big way. We're talking a likely execution style double murder at a separate location, and their bodies being dumped in the vehicle afterwards:
Crime scene details
Soto's brother, Jordan Corona, told CBS News that police told him there was no weapon found at the scene, and that both Guerra and Soto were shot in the back of the head.
Laura Cordova said a detective told her that Guerra was found slumped over in the backseat of the vehicle, and that Soto was in the front.
Soto was holding a car seat, according to her mother.
"She had the car seat on her lap, so she was going to the hospital," Gloria Cordova said.
Police have said that the car might have been at the location where it was found "possibly for three or four days."
Mom says pregnant Texas teen found shot to death with boyfriend "was just there at the wrong time"
Savanah Nicole Soto's family said the pregnant teen was in a "rocky" relationship but was excited about having the baby.
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I wouldn't find it perplexing that a fully termed woman's body expelled the baby at death. It's happened before so my mind is running off in a different direction.Another possibility for "perplexing" is "coffin birth" which can occur 48-72 hours post mortem of the mother. An expelled fetus with the mother would be a difficult sight to behold.
Coffin birth - Wikipedia
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Apparently no gun was recovered though, and its incredibly rare to see a suicide with a gunshot wound to the back of the head.
Ah I overlooked that. Weird. I would not want to have to stuff a dead man's body behind the seat of a car.
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Capital murder is a criminal (potential death penalty) charge.
It exists in jurisdictions where they have the death penalty
BF can't be charged with a death penalty crime because he is dead.
This family is talking a lot. wonder how this impacts the investigation.Ok, if true, this changes things in a big way. We're talking a likely execution style double murder at a separate location, and their bodies being dumped in the vehicle afterwards:
Crime scene details
Soto's brother, Jordan Corona, told CBS News that police told him there was no weapon found at the scene, and that both Guerra and Soto were shot in the back of the head.
Laura Cordova said a detective told her that Guerra was found slumped over in the backseat of the vehicle, and that Soto was in the front.
Soto was holding a car seat, according to her mother.
"She had the car seat on her lap, so she was going to the hospital," Gloria Cordova said.
Police have said that the car might have been at the location where it was found "possibly for three or four days."
Mom says pregnant Texas teen found shot to death with boyfriend "was just there at the wrong time"
Savanah Nicole Soto's family said the pregnant teen was in a "rocky" relationship but was excited about having the baby.
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