TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #46

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  1. scoodyboo

    scoodyboo Well-Known Member

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    As I recall Room 17 had the prison Bible study files, per Gumshoe Stories. Do we know if MPD looked into those students for any recent releases/connections?
     
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  2. Sillybilly

    Sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    ADMIN NOTE:

    Gumshoe has been Verified by Tricia as a case expert in Missy's case. We are aware of who Gumshoe is and any misperceptions related to a possible conflict of interest in his dealings with Brandon Bevers are absolutely unwarranted.

    Some posts have been removed and I have modsnipped some of Gumshoe's posts to remove any questioning of his motives, and intentionally left his explanations that should allay any concerns about his dealings with BB.

    Challenging a Verified member is not allowed. Any member who continues to cast any aspersions or doubt Gumshoe's way will be removed from this discussion.

    Gumshoe is here to help find out what happened to Missy Bevers. Stay focused on the case, not on our Verified case expert.

    Hope that clarifies.
     
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  3. Tiff23fr

    Tiff23fr Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    It's interesting that it sounds like the room with the prison ministry info may have been most disturbed. I have looked into these ministries a bit more and it sounds like those in this ministry would build relationships and pray with the prisoners. It doesn't sound like it is typically an academic arrangement. One of the prison ministry websites states the relationships you build are most important:

    Here is an excerpt from one:
    APPLICATION: OUR RELATIONAL MINISTRY TO PRISONERS MATTERS

    While programming is important, nothing can replace the impact of the person-to-person connection we offer as volunteers. Even though trauma, shame, guilt, or distrust may warp prisoners' natural instincts for intimacy, we will see results as we patiently share the love of Christ with prisoners.

    When you meet with your mentee for the first time, you will want to take a look at the current landscape of factors in the person’s life. For instance, does the person have a history of substance abuse? Do they have relationships in their lives that need healing and forgiveness? Do they lack spiritual maturity and need to grow in their relationship with God and in Christian community?


    Hardwired to Connect - In-Prison Ministry - Prison Fellowship

    I point that out because from what I have read they listen, build relationships and work on goals together. IF this is the same type of prison ministry used at CSideChurch, could those files have held info on prisoners goals, the forgiveness they seek in prayer, possible confessions in search of forgiveness, etc. Could there have been:
    -info a prisoner wanted destroyed
    or
    -info someone was seeking on a current or former prisoner

    chapter 4 talks a bit about correspondence:
    https://reentry.org/Workbooks/Prison and Jail Training Manuals/HarvestManual.pdf
     
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  4. No it's not

    No it's not that simple

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    We need a reenactment. Did MPD or any other agency do one? Is the FBI still assisting the case?

    -Nin
     
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  5. No it's not

    No it's not that simple

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    Quite interesting! Thank you for the info.

    -Nin
     
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  6. Gumshoe Stories

    Gumshoe Stories Missy Bevers Case Expert

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    Actually, as I understand it, the church’s prison ministry has to do with Bible correspondence courses that inmates take through the church. So the files in room 17 would basically be the same kind of academic files that a college might keep on a student.

    I inquired as to whether police investigated the scenario of SP’s motive somehow being connected to the prison ministry. @scoodyboo, I was told that they did take a look at that, but found nothing.
     
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  7. Tiff23fr

    Tiff23fr Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    when you say academic- are you referring to XYZ has been sent Chapter 7, completed Chapter 6, etc. As in notes at that level being the extent of the files?

    Edit to Add: curious if the completion of a chapter included a few questions to answer and send back based on the chapter etc.
     
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  8. Gumshoe Stories

    Gumshoe Stories Missy Bevers Case Expert

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    I’m saying it’s actual courses being taught, grades being given, with advancement toward degrees of some kind. So the files would be personnel files with relevant personal data about the inmate, along with academic records like a syllabus for each class, possibly copies of graded tests, grade reports, etc.

    I found this on the church’s site:

    “Expanding the mission field into prisons, a team of volunteers manages a prison ministry supporting almost 500 people through a faith-based curriculum.”

    Missions – Creekside Church
     
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  9. Razz

    Razz On Time Out

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    So, what track are the police on now and why do think it's not the right track?
     
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  10. Gumshoe Stories

    Gumshoe Stories Missy Bevers Case Expert

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    I can’t go further into detail about their current investigation while it’s ongoing. I believe that at some point they will move on, at which point I should be able to talk about it. I think it’s the wrong track because it just seems implausible with regard to the person and their theory of what the motive was. BWH at least made sense. But I will be more than happy to be wrong, so here is hoping that they are on the right path.
     
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  11. No it's not

    No it's not that simple

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    Warning. This individual may or may not be Missy's killer. If you prefer not to look at it closer, do not click to enlarge.

    I have carefully isolated the image from one of my previous posts of the Nissan Altima driver from the SWFA Outdoors video. I have darkened all non important surrounding pixels including the possible hand and possible cell phone on the driver's left side, so the face is the only thing left.
    The face itself including the eyes are untouched. I have continued to mark (emphasize) the same receding hairline on the individual's right side of the head as on his left side.

    I think the result is stunning:

    MB SWFA Driver.png
    Click to enlarge

    Disclaimer, I am not accusing the driver of the SWFA vehicle to be the murderer of Missy Terry Bevers. I am only contemplating the possibility of a connection due to circumstances like location, time, face covering, behavior but not limited to. Every person is considered innocent until proven guilty.

    -Nin
     
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  12. SteveS

    SteveS Attention: All my comments are IMO MOO AFAIK etc

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    One thing I've been pondering abut this case, is that it was definitely a "targeted" crime, no matter how you see it. The actual question is to identify the target.

    The target was either MB or CCOC.

    If the target was MB, then we ask ourselves who would have wanted to kill her? The possibilities are limited to people who knew her and had a reason to want her dead. This has been batted around, and went nowhere apparently.

    If the target was CCOC, then we ask ourselves who would have wanted to break in, vandalize, rob the place? We haven't really considered this, but the possibilities on this end also become limited in some ways. The perp picked CCOC as a place to hit rather than all sorts of other options - for example, someone isn't likely to drive a long ways to do this, which limits the geography to some degree. There were certainly alternatives to break in and rob in other locations. Why would they have picked CCOC? I wonder what other limiters this target would create.
     
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  13. Tiff23fr

    Tiff23fr Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    This is why I was thinking it might be Biblical "Faith Based" curriculum. Oh well- it was just a possible avenue/motive for breaking into the church I thought I would toss out. Thanks again.

    A few prisoners get permission to take for-credit correspondence courses offered by colleges or universities, although they have to pay tuition and keep up with class assignments they receive by mail. Some prisoners may also receive permission to take free or low-cost Bible correspondence courses offered by churches and other religious organizations.
    FAQ: Prison Educational Programs - Prison Fellowship
     
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  14. Itsapuzzle

    Itsapuzzle Well-Known Member

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    That's amazing Nin, great work. He looks a lot older than the guy I've been envisioning ... very interesting.
     
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  15. DeDee

    DeDee Well-Known Member

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    Literally, SP would eventually leave one of the rooms via a door leading into the hallway. So, yes. SP could rummage within those aforementioned areas without being seen on camera for however much time SP spent confined in Rooms 20-16.
    What? Are we positive the rooms' lights automatically turn on when someone enters the room? No. I don't think the lights were hi-tech but required an off and on switch, correct?

    Overhead lights did not come on in Room 21 when SP experienced a Dutch Door unexpectedly or else the light would shine in the window which might alert someone passing by. Even with blinds closed at a window, overheads would illuminate the window from the exterior.

    Besides, SP has lights! SP's wearing a GoPro, while maybe carrying a torch and what about a headlight on the cheap helmet. SPs lit up like a Christmas Tree and who knows what's in that vest with nearly useless small pockets except maybe a few screwdrivers and a pry bar.

    Those prison ministry records maintained in Room 17 are intriguing. It's a possible reason for SP to spend time in that area rifling through the filing cabinet and whatnot.

    But, what's causing the illumination across the floor in the S hallway? Was there not a lighted glass encased library with a nice chair facing the S hallway in April 2016 because there was a small lit library in July 2016?
     
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  16. Tippy Lynn

    Tippy Lynn Well-Known Member

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    Can LE discussed details with outside sources/investigators about ongoing cases?
     
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  17. DeDee

    DeDee Well-Known Member

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    I am thrilled the Reward for Missy is now $140k. Pass a link so I can read about that wonderful highlight, please.

    How do you know the possibly white object SP carried was left behind at the CS when we don't even know what it is?
     
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    Kittybunny Well-Known Member

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    Wow! Amazing work!
     
  19. Gumshoe Stories

    Gumshoe Stories Missy Bevers Case Expert

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    There is no link yet on the reward increase.

    It’s clear that SP leaves behind the object because when they’re breaking into room 9, they have it. When they come back around to the auditorium they no longer have it. That object is too large to fit in a pocket.
     
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