UK - 22 dead in explosion at Ariana Grande gig, Manchester, 22 May 2017 #1

[zencompass]

Ariana Grande has arrived back in the U.S she is receiving backlash on social media for not staying to visit her young victims in hospital. I don't think this criticism is justified at the moment, perhaps a special meet and greet can be arranged at a later date.

Any entertainer in Ariana's shoes would be feeling "grief". As I understand it, through social media her fans connected with her and vice versa. Ariana would know exactly who her fan base is as well as their young ages primarily.

She would be feeling "shock" as well.

As I understand it, Ariana is a human being with emotions and if this felt so overwhelming to many of us who are hundreds if not thousands of miles away, I can be sure she is deeply affected by what happened.

Anyone sending backlash on social media towards Ariana returning home is perhaps devoid of human compassion and empathy. That is the only explanation I can think of.

Grief and survival guilt will drive the need for counselling. I hope and pray that counselling will be made available free of charge to everyone affected by this. This needs to be processed in a safe and caring environment.

That's why I was so glad to see that some schools had already set up counselling and support.

Many times, though, symptoms of PTSD and feelings of survivor guilt can manifest months later.

I pray for all of them to get through this.

 

[CARIIS]

First time we've been on critical for 10 years

https://www.mi5.gov.uk/threat-levels

Oh this is depressing. Over here they would do that to CYA -- over there they would not unless they have found bad stuff

very bad stuff

and it is congruent with having to blow up s^^^ this am



I am hoping for all of you over there

this is so awful

Dread is here after seeing this

 

[CARIIS]

Any entertainer in Ariana's shoes would be feeling "grief". As I understand it, through social media her fans connected with her and vice versa. Ariana would know exactly who her fan base is as well as their young ages primarily.

She would be feeling "shock" as well.

As I understand it, Ariana is a human being with emotions and if this felt so overwhelming to many of us who are hundreds if not thousands of miles away, I can be sure she is deeply affected by what happened.

Anyone sending backlash on social media towards Ariana returning home is perhaps devoid of human compassion and empathy. That is the only explanation I can think of.

Grief and survival guilt will drive the need for counselling. I hope and pray that counselling will be made available free of charge to everyone affected by this. This needs to be processed in a safe and caring environment.

That's why I was so glad to see that some schools had already set up counselling and support.

Many times, though, symptoms of PTSD and feelings of survivor guilt can manifest months later.

I pray for all of them to get through this.

Where did we all get so cold -- she is a kid she wants to be around her family

she does not want to be over there with cameras all in her face going to hospitals

god leave her alone world she is a kid

 

[SilkySifaka]

Where did we all get so cold -- she is a kid she wants to be around her family

she does not want to be over there with cameras all in her face going to hospitals

god leave her alone world she is a kid

Yep and according to tmz her mom was in the front row when it happened and escorted ten children backstage to safety. Mom I'm sure wanted to get her home


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[CARIIS]

Off topic

It's definitely Lulu but thanks for trying. She is there because she is on their track relight my fire.

a ha ha

Greg my friend

I thought you would know ha!

thrilled you know their relight !! was amazing performance

 

[Shiressleuth]

ohh i never thought this till I heard it on MSNBC

She is American ...............part of the plan ??

Was the band playing at the Bataclan also American? Two targets with one bomb. American Artiste and British/European venue.

 

[CARIIS]

Apparently Ariana blames herself for the attack, allegedly she believes that if it wasn't for her the fans would still be alive. She is believed to have told her bodyguard after the attack that she wants to end her career. This is apparently what a source close to her has said to her fan club. I hope Ariana knows she is not to blame and it is thanks to her that the fans who died had a great night of their lives before the attack. - should be considered rumour from fan club social media.

No issue with weepy - last night and then in the last 10 min here again and that is fine

our ally is on super hight alert

Ariana is being abused on social media for being a kid

someone ran around with knives and a bat at a vigil

had some chuckles with Lulu!! TY for that

and there is foreboding



It has to be a cell cause they went to two locations so quick


They obviously have profenciy

If cell they know LE is catching up might as well go out and murder some more before we get caught


and they are obviously in the suicide mode

they believe there was another person downtown with him for three hours before - that is not a lone wolf

Ugh just if ya can stay home all this that is defeat stuff -- when the abovementioned have happened in the last 12 hours

I call it preservation of my body parts sorry

 

[Shiressleuth]

It's the pics in your sig link that Shiressleuth is seeing, I think.

I thought they were coming up whenever I said 'U2' . I must be losing it.

 

[gregjrichards]

Was the band playing at the Bataclan also American? Two targets with one bomb. American Artiste and British/European venue.

The band playing the Bataclan when it was attacked were The Eagles of Death Metal they are from Palm Desert, California

 

[CoverMeCagney]

O/T but light



Were Take That huge where you are?

Take That were / are massive in the UK. Do you know they're a Manchester band? Their gigs at the arena this week had lots of people very excited (including a lot of my 40+ mum friends, who morph into love struck teenagers at the mere mention of them!)

 

[DatelineFan]

I sincerely hope that Ariana Grande can find the strength to continue her tour and go on to London and that people can attend with extra vigilance, But gosh Ariana is just a young person herself and this can just scar everyone. Many young people will now struggle with PTSD unfortunately.

Just sadness.

I thought about this. I wonder how she is feeling. Thankfully, she most likely has the resources, whether she chooses to continue her tour or not, to get help if she needs it.

So many people and young people, especially, will need professional support in the aftermath of this. I hope they are able to get the help they need. This is a significant trauma.

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[dotr]

I thought about this. I wonder how she is feeling. Thankfully, she most likely has the resources, whether she chooses to continue her tour or not, to get help if she needs it.

So many people and young people, especially, will need professional support in the aftermath of this. I hope they are able to get the help they need. This is a significant trauma.

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Thinking that as much as AG's fans love her, to show up at hospital beds could have the opposite effect,triggering terrible memories, confusion and fear that they are still in the arena.

imo, speculation.

 

[CARIIS]

Take That were / are massive in the UK. Do you know they're a Manchester band? Their gigs at the arena this week had lots of people very excited (including a lot of my 40+ mum friends, who morph into love struck teenagers at the mere mention of them!)

oh person don't know your gender if they came here forget it i will burn down the internet to get tickets

actually thrilled here to find out they were still out there !!!

if ya have not done so do the Circus live a bit overblown but the creativity is mind boggling !!

got tickets last week for Diana Ross

yesssssssssssss




and at the end of the day they are just really nice people watched lots of docs on their amazing story

would love to see them

 

[DatelineFan]

http://www.news.com.au/world/europe...e/news-story/d2d61edd4fbb315d7693f49fddc58d38

I've been thinking about the family. If they are not extremists, this is incredibly painful for them. I can't imagine. I feel that they are victims too.

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[gregjrichards]

Fourth person who has died in the attack has been named as Megan Hurley. May Megan Rest In Peace.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/manchester-terror-attack-megan-hurley-10486331

 

[SilkySifaka]

I've been thinking about the family. If they are not extremists, this is incredibly painful for them. I can't imagine. I feel that they are victims too.

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I agree it's easy to forget that family sometimes has a Bad seed. And killing little children is another level of evil


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[DatelineFan]

I anticipate a tribute concert in Manchester, honoring all victims and loved ones, as well as emergency personnel, etc.

Perhaps other entertainers will join Ariana Grande in this.

When the time is appropriate...

This is my opinion and I would love to see this happen.

Maybe proceeds could help with the medical bills and mental health treatment for victims and survivors.

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[Shiressleuth]

I agree it's easy to forget that family sometimes has a Bad seed. And killing little children is another level of evil


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I have to say I feel nothing for the family of the bomber. My concerns and prayers are fully with the victims and their families only.

 

[CARIIS]

I thought about this. I wonder how she is feeling. Thankfully, she most likely has the resources, whether she chooses to continue her tour or not, to get help if she needs it.

So many people and young people, especially, will need professional support in the aftermath of this. I hope they are able to get the help they need. This is a significant trauma.

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It's obnoxious that Sm is doing this

she is a kid

she was there too

she heard the boom

she heard her fans screaming in terror

she smelled the smoke

she heard the sirens

she watched it on SM

for all, we know her mom demanded her child come home

to be left alone

to be held

to see someone

she needs her real friends

she is gonna be doing survivors guilt on a whole additional level

yeah if I was her I could tell myself it was not my fault

sure

from my world, I just spend a wonderful 100 minutes with people who appreciate my talent and love me

and then they all are petrified dead hurt

go home my dear lady stay away from the sleazy media

she is a kid

its appropriate for me to have to Take that on

and way before tragedy their music made me just happy and that is awesome

and ys should only moo open another window and put this on and feel the love going back and forth this was my favorite concert of theirs cause the love both ways was joyous!

It was a beautiful concert and I played often in much less stressful times

their voices are beautiful and they are having such a good time and the audience is so joyous being able to be in a space with them

that's a beautiful thing

and yes it is soothing me

and yes I know there are some stuff that is gonna result in tears and hey that is fine


I saved for moths for my headphones

its time

but it is not dancing the living room!

its time for some comfort while we all share bad things .......

[video=youtube;Rz_E5Q7Flsk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz_E5Q7Flsk[/video]

 

[SilkySifaka]

Maybe proceeds could help with the medical bills and mental health treatment for victims and survivors.

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Luckily the U.K. Has national healthcare which means most should be covered. Not sure about counselling though


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