UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #16

[Sarahaddison14]

I’ll have a look on their website

 

[Sarahaddison14]

Interesting - having said I saw no sign of forensics activity I now see there is a photo on this page of an Alecto Forensics staff member at the scene. If anyone fancies having a go at tallying the Yorkshire Live photo with the photos of Alecto staff from their website, we might get an idea of the sort of thing NYP are potentially looking at:
Team Members

Good luck…

they worked in the Suzy case too the Alecto forensics

 

[Bickles]

Claudia Lawrence detectives must have been led to fishing pond by tip-off, says family friend | Daily Mail Online

Article with aerial pics of the search site

 

[Kiranerys]

Personally,I think they must have something,either information from a credible source or the environmental survey turned up something relevant. It is a big deal with a lot of manpower so will be costly,and the fact that the police have alerted the media that they are searching specifically in connection with Claudia makes me think there is something significant here. They could have told the media any old no sense or nothing at all,or ruled out any connection to Claudia very quickly if their presence was unrelated. They have something IMO

 

[shadwell]

they worked in the Suzy case too the Alecto forensics

Third from left in that photo - same person as Yorkshire Live photo? Working from the Alecto site I see one possible specialist and one other I cannot exclude, which would appear to bring it down to archaeology/ecology (possible) or garment analysis (cannot exclude). Strictly MOO though.

 

[Novosti]

Yes - the police media handling is interesting. It is very upfront and open and deliberately creates a high media profile to the search. This could just be to avoid an unhelpful rumour mill beginning.

But this approach is also sometimes used to rattle the cages of suspects and witnesses - giving them incentives to come forward quickly, so that their side of a story might be heard before others.

It's not costless. If they draw a complete blank, the high profile statements will leave the force looking a bit sheepish and potentially accused of raising expectations, wasting resources and disrupting residents unnecessarily.

Personally,I think they must have something,either information from a credible source or the environmental survey turned up something relevant. It is a big deal with a lot of manpower so will be costly,and the fact that the police have alerted the media that they are searching specifically in connection with Claudia makes me think there is something significant here. They could have told the media any old no sense or nothing at all,or ruled out any connection to Claudia very quickly if their presence was unrelated. They have something IMO

 

[Kiranerys]

Yes - the police media handling is interesting. It is very upfront and open and deliberately creates a high media profile to the search. This could just be to avoid an unhelpful rumour mill beginning.

But this approach is also sometimes used to rattle the cages of suspects and witnesses - giving them incentives to come forward quickly, so that their side of a story might be heard before others.

It's not costless. If they draw a complete blank, the high profile statements will leave the force looking a bit sheepish and potentially accused of raising expectations, wasting resources and disrupting residents unnecessarily.

Indeed. This is why I believe they have something,especially with the way of the world these days where it seems there is always criticism of the police.

It's been a while since I read through all the threads,can anyone tell me if there was ever suggestion of Claudia being involved with a policeman? (I think it was a theory here at one point?) or am imagining reading that?

 

[shadwell]

Claudia Lawrence detectives must have been led to fishing pond by tip-off, says family friend | Daily Mail Online

Article with aerial pics of the search site

Seems to be particular interest in a strip adjacent to the road by the larger lake. Clearing brush in preparation for geophysics/excavation? Acting on information received rather than a previous find?

Also, no indication that the lakes have been drained to any degree in these photos.

 

[Bickles]

Indeed. This is why I believe they have something,especially with the way of the world these days where it seems there is always criticism of the police.

It's been a while since I read through all the threads,can anyone tell me if there was ever suggestion of Claudia being involved with a policeman? (I think it was a theory here at one point?) or am imagining reading that?

I seem to recall that suggestion in the media at one point

 

[susie sixpence]

I can't understand why the police would spend money on bringing in a private forensics team if they hadn't found anything to examine. Surely they have found something of interest.

 

[shadwell]

Indeed. This is why I believe they have something,especially with the way of the world these days where it seems there is always criticism of the police.

It's been a while since I read through all the threads,can anyone tell me if there was ever suggestion of Claudia being involved with a policeman? (I think it was a theory here at one point?) or am imagining reading that?

There have been occasional suggestions of a police connection, mainly in relation to CL’s visits to Acomb in the period preceding her disappearance - possibly due to the proximity of the police station to one of the pubs she visited there. Nothing has ever been substantiated with regard to this afaik.

 

[Kiranerys]

There have been occasional suggestions of a police connection, mainly in relation to CL’s visits to Acomb in the period preceding her disappearance - possibly due to the proximity of the police station to one of the pubs she visited there. Nothing has ever been substantiated with regard to this afaik.

I seem to recall that suggestion in the media at one point

Thanks both. I thought I had seen the suggestion of it before,I asked because I had seen speculation elsewhere that any new info could have been related to ongoing investigations into the killer of Sarah Everard,I believe he is being looked at for other cold cases. I must stress that this was purely someones speculation and is in no way intended to be presented as fact. I have not investigated that case much myself so not too sure if it could be an interesting angle or not.

 

[shadwell]

I can't understand why the police would spend money on bringing in a private forensics team if they hadn't found anything to examine. Surely they have found something of interest.

Though as @Sarahaddison14 pointed out earlier, Alecto was also involved in the dig at John Cannan’s mother’s house in 2018 which was based primarily on rumour, with no previous finds afaik.

 

[shadwell]

Though as @Sarahaddison14 pointed out earlier, Alecto was also involved in the dig at John Cannan’s mother’s house in 2018 which was based primarily on rumour, with no previous finds afaik.

To clarify - the 2018 dig was triggered by a claim from Cannan’s cellmate in 2001 that he had confessed to burying SL under the patio of his mother’s house.

 

[susie sixpence]

The North Yorkshire Police have not even updated the microsite with any recent information. The last posting was in March I believe

 

[Sarahaddison14]

There’s supposed to be an update, to what I see on Twitter at 6pm.

 

[Sarahaddison14]

https://twitter.com/itvcalendar/status/1430558083571490819?s=21

Are we allowed to post these, as I’m unsure?


A forensic diving expert has told ITV News that the search could take a "number of days" depending on the quality of the water in the ponds.

Peter Faulding said that the search will have to be done by hand given the amount of time that has passed since Claudia went missing.

He added: "They [police divers] are at the top of their game at what they do, if there is something there, they will find it.

"If the intelligence that they have got has taken them to that quarry and its good intelligence, if she is there the police will find her."

Mr Faulding said that debris could have built up over the years in the ponds which could make the search harder.

 

[ArcadeFire]

Up-date as in a police briefing at 6pm?

I don’t think there is any link with poor Sarah Eveard, I believe that was a one of killing by the perpetrator who I won’t even name as he didn’t deserve the decency of that. Although Claudia was rumoured to be seeing a copper I suspect it was a local one as far as I’m aware Sarah’s killer was stationed in an entirely different part of the country.

 

[Sarahaddison14]

Up-date as in a police briefing at 6pm?

I don’t think there is any link with poor Sarah Eveard, I believe that was a one of killing by the perpetrator who I won’t even name as he didn’t deserve the decency of that. Although Claudia was rumoured to be seeing a copper I suspect it was a local one as far as I’m aware Sarah’s killer was stationed in an entirely different part of the country.

it just says there’s an update at 6 on Twitter, it doesn’t say if it’s police though. It’s itv a journalist tweeted the itv post I’ll keep my eyes peeled at 6.

 

[ArcadeFire]

Cheers, could you post the update here as I have to nip out.

I don’t know if it was mentioned in this thread but Claudia is the Suzy Lamplaugh of my generation. Gives you a hint to my age there

I think this police search will have rattled the perp(s) even if it draws a blank. It is peculiar the police invited the press. Maybe to get them on side and to be open and transparent to cut a break with the old investigation team but it does feel like there could be something in this… I hope they give an update even if it’s negative news