UK - Ellie Butler, 6, brutally murdered, Sutton, 28 Oct 2013 #1

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  1. Lyra500

    Lyra500 New Member

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    I searched and did not see a thread.

    I know that some of the cases on here absolutely beggar belief, but this case has made me so angry.

    This 'father' was convicted of inflicting serious head injuries on his daughter when she was a baby. He appealed and his conviction was quashed three years later.

    Then he and the girl's mother instituted court proceedings to regain custody of Ellie even though she had been placed in long term foster care.

    They won.

    11 months later he is in court for murdering her. After she was injured, rather than calling for help, he and the 'mother' spent 2 hours trying to set up an alibi and make it look like an accident.

    One final insult - she had suffered a broken shoulder several weeks before she died and neither parent sought medical attention for this injury.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36082621

    Ellie had a home and she was safe away from her vile father - but the overweening arrogance of the man meant that he would not accept it. I think he saw her as property and regaining custody as a matter of pride and a way of 'saving face'. Disgusting.
     
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    This is an intensely disturbing case. Here is a newspaper article covering the original proceedings, reproduced on a blog:

    http://shakenbabyandsuddeninfantdeath.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/sbs-parents-reunited-with-children.html

    They must have done the media rounds at the time because the Telegraph has a picture of them on what appears to be a TV studio couch:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10415592/Father-arrested-after-death-of-girl-6.html

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    Interesting reader comments under this article by the way:

    http://www.suttonguardian.co.uk/news/8237305.Dad_cleared_of_injuring_baby_by_Court_of_Appeal/

    Meanwhile the Irish Mirror is reporting evidence from the current trial giving an insight into what was going on under the surface in their relationship:

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/dads-abusive-texts-reveal-toxic-7788206

    They then are alleged to have engaged in a remarkably elaborate scheme to make it look like an accident:

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ghter-killed-after-assault-conviction-quashed

     

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    With hindsight, this is a horrible read, from 2012:


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19935690
     
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    "Doting dad", indeed - ugh.
     
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    Ooh I knew Ellie was released back into care of parents. I wasn't aware there was a sister too? What's happened with the sister since/before/after?
    Anyone know?
    I feel so sorry for Ellie losing her life... cut so short. And yet the parents went thru all the paper work red tape and an amount of time. In order to win back Ellie.
    And in such short time after. Her 'doting father' extinguishes her life out like a candle...

    #2016AnnisHorribilus

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    More distressing details from the trial today:




    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36092752
     
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    Following this also. Such a sad story. Borne from a woman who just wanted him to love her. And to have that 'perfect' family..

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    Another version of same story.
    Either way. I do hope he pays for what he did. The mom did wrong to. But you have to be in her shoes to know where yr head is in circumstances like these.
    I've been there. Altho not in such a degree. No crime was committed. But if I hadn't of got out when I did.....who knows.

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    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ben-butler-trial-recap-dad-7793323

     
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    I just can't get my whole head around his psychosis.... and I've still not found anymore of a second child.. and yet in Mondays DM. I'm sure it mentions another child grrr.
    I wonder how it was he managed or should I say THEY managed to change Ellie's custodian from care to back at home. Will someone's head roll at this?

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    It's my understanding it took two years to get them back from care (I read two girls one younger and who they dragged into it by saying she "found" her sister's body).

    Two years is a long time, particularly in bureaucratic time. Like, they had to have met some expectations put upon them over those years right? Certainly, I hope...
     
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    Thank you for confirming Flourish. I can't seem to load up my history from Monday. Where I read about a second child.
    There's very little reported on the second child. Did she also enter care along with Ellie. Do you know. Also if he is the 'house husband' surely he'd be looking after the 2... sorry trying to make sense of the second child and where she fits in to this if at all.

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    Personally. From the experience Jennie went thru with Ellie placed in care. Because of his 'temper' outbursts. I'd not feel safe leaving any child alone with him whatsoever.
    I'd be packing him off to work to express some of that anger with a physical job.
    Or he was one of these guys who preferred to play online. N children were just an inconvenience. Which maybe why Ellie so tragically lost her life.

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    I've been home from work ill yesterday and today and therefore have read too much websleuths (and watched a lot of basketball). But if I recall correctly, the second daughter was conceived after he got out of jail. So she has to be little, like toddler little? Like, I thought I'd read he was angry because the little one transitioned back into the home easier than the older one (duh dad) and his feelings were hurt when she cried for her foster parents (who I think were the maternal grandparents).
     
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    I'd found this on my travels thru the wonderweb....

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/england/london

    From 2012. States in their also 'children' were taken from the home. But why then just fight for Ellie to come home...

    And thanks again Flourish lol.. yes you are quite right. They were bound to be younger.. they.... as I don't know how many were removed.. hedging my bets. But that could just mean Ellie and 1 other also

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  20. Gigi-G

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    Ah ha reading a lil further. Ellie and her younger sister were sanctioned to be returned home...
    Guessing then that maybe the younger was being raised by grandparents.

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    See my first post on this thread. I believe there are reporting restrictions around "the other child in the house" in the current trial, and that's why the reports are vague about it.
     
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