Uk - Jordan Burling, 18, Died Weighing Less Than 6 Stone, Body Of Baby Also Found, Leeds, June 2016

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  1. dalsglen

    dalsglen Active Member

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    Eating cheeseburgers and out playing football the day before... aye ok! Not the smartest folks these ones eh
     
  2. jiminy

    jiminy Active Member

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    I don't know what kind of delusional parallel world they're living in.

    When did Jordan turn 18? I'm thinking any and all state financial assistance for him would have stopped then without some serious form-filling and assessment. Could that be when this went from neglect toeffective abandonment? He wasn't bringing anything in so he could just starve?

    I think we all know what the deal will have been with the diarrhoea drugs.

    How in heck did these people avoid scrutiny? They must have had neighbours.
     
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    AzPistonsGirl Detroit to the Bone

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    my heart just breaks. The only solace is that he won't suffer any longer. Did anyone love this young man? Ever in life?...
     
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    Holy h@ll, what did I just read?!! What a horrible way to treat ANY human let alone a family member.
    The only thing I don’t understand is how and when it all really started? Was it an eating disorder in the beginning ?
    My G-d what horrifying, cold, uncaring people.
    I didn’t think anything could shock me anymore but this....
     
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  5. Legally Bland

    Legally Bland Well-Known Member

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  7. Legally Bland

    Legally Bland Well-Known Member

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    I thought 'anti-diarrhea' tablets was an odd phrase. I guess they mean laxatives or some other digestive aid.

     
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    I think they're the opposite of laxatives, probably Imodium or similar.
     
  9. Legally Bland

    Legally Bland Well-Known Member

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  10. Legally Bland

    Legally Bland Well-Known Member

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    Not sure if this is a typo or maybe that's it till Monday.

     
  11. Tortoise

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    From the court listings it looks as if there was more this afternoon and court adjourned at 16:03. I'm unclear whether that is until tomorrow morning or Monday morning, at 10:45.

    Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 14 Continues - 14:20
    Trial (Part Heard) - No Event - 14:45
    Trial (Part Heard) - No Event - 15:11
    Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 15:25
    Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 15 Continues - 15:35
    Trial (Part Heard) - Legal Submissions - 15:54
    Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 10:45 - 16:03
     
  12. Tortoise

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    An emaciated 18-year-old man who died in his Leeds home had the lowest body mass index (BMI) an experienced dietitian had ever seen, a court heard.

    Leeds Crown Court heard height and weight measurements taken during his post-mortem examination revealed a BMI of 13.6, which is of "severe thinness".

    The court heard evidence from Jacqueline Lowdon, an NHS dietitian of 26 years with experience of treating severe eating disorders.

    No symptoms connected to eating conditions such as anorexia or bulimia were recorded in the victim's case and gastro-intestinal diseases including coeliac and Crohn's were also ruled out.

    She estimated he had experienced "at least six months of malnutrition" and was satisfied there was "nothing medically" that could have caused his condition.

    more to read at link

    Teen had 'lowest BMI doctor had seen'
     
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    Legally Bland Well-Known Member

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    Wow. I was convinced an eating disorder must have played a part in this.
     
  14. Tortoise

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    My thinking too. At least that's how it started out. I'm a bit confused too about the decline from his last independent visit to the bathroom and using nappies. That would be something most people would fight against so there must have been something that really frightened him I would think. If he had a problem with bowel movements did he decide to stop eating solid foods maybe.

    I'm also not too sure about his intellectual capacity if that's the right way to word it.
     
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    I had not read about this case until today and frankly, I'm sorry I read this. I have no words for how awful this must be for the jury and the officers who have dealt with it. How on Earth could this have happened in the modern world is beyond me. Was no one a nosy neighbor?
     
  16. Legally Bland

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    It's a difficult thing to word, but I think that is fine.

    His Dad mentioned ''was 'a bit slow ", but that really doesn't explain his decline. He managed to get through school till the age of 16. I don't think he was totally helpless.

    Unfortunately I do believe the bullying stories. Maybe not the frequency claimed though. I can't see the girl bully pouring orange juice on him every day. It probably happened, but every day? Nah.

    As for the nappies, I could probably understand nappies as a failsafe if there were bowel problems, but not cleaning himself takes it to a whole new level of personal indignity.

    I really don't know what to think.
     
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  17. AzPistonsGirl

    AzPistonsGirl Detroit to the Bone

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    I never thought for a minute he had any sort of eating disorder. Just saying that to remind that we can have different perceptions when reviewing the same evidence. No matter, sounds like we ALL want justice for the injustice Jordan suffered.
     
  18. Tortoise

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    For me, there is a point before he became too incapacitated to move around and leave the house, when he must have been losing weight and on a decline to reach that stage. That seems to have been before Christmas when his dad's family noticed he was drawn in the face and his clothes were too big. I don't think there is another medical reason for him to have lost that much weight other than a restricted diet and possibly the pills he was taking, and that was at a stage before the mother and grandmother became responsible for his eating.
     
  19. AzPistonsGirl

    AzPistonsGirl Detroit to the Bone

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    thanks. Yes, maybe no medical reason for him to have lost that much weight indeed.

    Actually, wait, lol... I think there are other medical reasons that might explain rapid weight loss, no?

    Maybe not in this case but there are other medical causes.
     
  20. Tortoise

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    Yes, but not in this case. Well according to the witness today that is.
     

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