Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen getting into taxi outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #8 *ARREST*

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  1. Mamamiamaria

    Mamamiamaria Well-Known Member

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    Where was the house party she was at earlier in the night ? Friend put her in taxi and gave driver the home address, he dropped Libby there as instructed but she decided she wanted to party and tries to make her way back to the house party which might still have been on ? Might explain why no apparant attempt was made to go into her house ?
     
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  2. Spy Versus Spy

    Spy Versus Spy Well-Known Member

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    Yeah Cherwell, I pretty much agree with that bare outline and where we are. Thanks. It must be pretty much unthinkable for those closely involved, regardless.
     
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    Not making light of this terrible issue but can you imagine if we were all together in one room with a whiteboard, strings and photos. I imagine it would look like a huge spiders web with spilt coffee, half eaten toasted teacakes and Yorkshire puddings with an alarming amount of used string trying to connect our ideas, theories and facts...
     
  4. CoverMeCagney

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    I think we'd have all got tangled up in it and there might be a couple of casualties
     
  5. mrjitty

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    Often these things are quite simple - its just the victim remains hidden by pure blind luck.

    Luck and random chance encourages people to speculate complex theories, where none is required.
     
  6. CoverMeCagney

    CoverMeCagney Well-Known Member

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    Locals - I'm going to ask again now the thread has quietened down.

    Do you think it's possible / likely that Libby could have been running away and accidentally fell into the pond or river? Bearing in mind that a) it was dark and b) Libby might never have been in that park before or c) if she had her orientation will have been compromised.

    I recall one of you saying there was some sort of raised bank leading to one or the other (the pond, I think) and it would be difficult, even in the dark, to end up in there. Just trying to connect the strings in my ever changing mind!
     
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  7. CoverMeCagney

    CoverMeCagney Well-Known Member

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    Agreed.

    Occam's Razor

    "The explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is most likely to be correct"
     
  8. mrjitty

    mrjitty Well-Known Member

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    IMO she was just very drunk, and feeling sorry for herself, and did something stupid in wandering around. Maybe she had a key and couldn't find it? Who knows.

    I recall as a young student working at a cafe on late shift on christmas eve the bar staff started making cocktails for us staff. I have never drunk like that before in my life. Later in the night i woke up lying in an alley. Basically I must have wandered off and passed out.

    trying to find rational reasons is a fools errand!
     
  9. mrjitty

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    Hi Cherwell!

    Exactly! You nailed it!
     
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  10. Stella8

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    We can’t know for sure but I did notice that when Libby’s friend (who lead the on foot civilian search for her) talked about the party, he motioned backwards towards the university building - so possibly somewhere in that area/ halls?
     
  11. crazychris

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    The dogs solved it as far as me and many many others are concerned.
     
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  12. CoverMeCagney

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    When the case first broke it was reported that Libby lived in the halls on campus and there were some searches there. I think it's quite possible the party was there. With that in mind, two possible reasons for Libby to be on that bench:

    1) she was hoping a familiar face would get off the last bus and she could go to their house
    2) she was considering catching the last bus up to halls knowing there'd be people about or at least a wardens office or somewhere safe

    Are there student bars or a club on the Inglemire Lane campus, that she might have thinking about going to?
     
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  13. Zazie

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    The police knocked at doors at the Courtyard student housing in Inglemire Lane on the Friday afternoon (initially reported incorrectly as her digs, as below) and told one student Block F was her last known sighting - odd as before police trawled CCTV, the last sighting by her pals would have been the Welly.

    Shock as police search for Libby, 21, missing after getting in taxi

    Something probably got lost in translation in the article, but made me wonder if this was where the house party had been held or if friends had suggested that this could be somewhere she might head to stay overnight.

    There isn't a direct bus from Haworth/Beverley back to the Courtyard, she'd have had to walk most of the journey anyway, if that's what she was intending.
     
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    In my mind it is plausible. I mentioned way back a raised bank towards the river but it’s gentle enough to walk up. The pond could have been accessed by a person fighting through some low trees (I’ll take a photo) and if you panicked and ran through to the lake it’s only a matter of meters to the pond. However dna should have been found if the pond and low trees were run through. In the photo to the left are the trees you would run through to fall in the pond.
     

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  15. Zazie

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    It has "comfy lounges, a games room and a cinema room." So would have made sense to try to head there, assuming she could get in as a non-resident.
     
  16. LibraryGirl

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    Agreed, the lack of keys is just a theory.
    Note my wording, "suggests she walked to her front door, realised she didn't have her keys".
     
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    She could have realised she didn't have her keys while she was still in the taxi, hence just walking down the road rather than approaching her front door.
     
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  18. mrjitty

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    If she fell in the pond they would have found her days ago
     
  19. mrjitty

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    Do you have any evidence gangs steal babies/toddlers to order in Western Europe?
     
  20. CoverMeCagney

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    Ok, I can see on google 3D that there are trees most of the way around. But it look like if you took the most obvious path from road towards river and then took the most obvious turn right, you'd end up bang between the pond and river on a strip about 25m wide. I hope it works on this map link and you can see what I mean.

    Google Maps
     
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