Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #15 *ARREST*

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  1. Vermont24

    Vermont24 Well-Known Member

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    90 witnesses in total so far...

    We were previously told that there were a lot.
     
  2. kate2931

    kate2931 Well-Known Member

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    That’s a massive, shocking amount .. even for PR
     
  3. Newthoughts

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    I thought the next relevant date was 23rd July?
     
  4. Newthoughts

    Newthoughts Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps we now have an explanation as to why everything is taking so long. 90!

    and last time it was said there needed to be facilities to show CCTV.

    13 charges. 5 in the weeks immediately preceding Libby's disappearance.
     
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  5. Newthoughts

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    90 witnesses - that makes me wonder if there are many more similar offences against students where witnesses have long since left uni and can't be contacted. Could that explain the lack of charges in earlier years?
     
  6. Ruthbullock

    Ruthbullock Well-Known Member

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    No, he didn’t live in Hull, he previously lived in york.
     
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  7. Newthoughts

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    I was thinking maybe final years in 2017 - the years of his first charges. Given 5 charges in the weeks before Libby disappears I can't believe only 8 in the previous 2 years

    I wonder will anything emerge from York? I'd hope police will liaise.
     
  8. mrjitty

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    This is cray for a case like this - clearly they are pulling out all the stops to nail him for as much stuff as possible.

    Normally he would just get busted on a representative offence or 2
     
  9. JosieJo

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    I'd imagine lots of people came forward once his face was in the press on similar charges ..possibly his defence will have a field day with this ..especially the latter charges ..possibly hence the poor sounding "mistaken identity" defence
     
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  10. Eyes Wide Open

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    I think the other interesting thing to emerge here is that one additional charge has provided LE with three extra weeks of pre-hearing preparation as the trial in Sheffield has now been rescheduled for 12th August. I wonder if other similar charges are in the same pipeline. Re the defence's plea of mistaken identity - was this necessary over and above his plea of not guilty? I ask because I've been wondering for a while whether the issue of unfair trial will be raised by the defence. I note that there is something set in June called a pre-hearing review. What might be covered by that? Is that an opportunity, among other things, for the defence to query allegations which may have been made subsequent to his pictures having been plastered across the papers from an early stage? Just wondered.
     
  11. Newthoughts

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    That must happen quite often. I'd guess here that these crimes were reported at the time tho. In isolation they wouldn't be seen as serious.
     
  12. JosieJo

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    Amongst other things it mentioned that the crown will be applying for a multi count indictment in June
     
  13. Plod

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    90 witnesses for the charges to date? I think t hat t here is a possibilityn though that the defence and prosecution agree that some of those statements of those witnesses can be read out at trial - especially if they say roughly the same thing.
     
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    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    I see you all talking about dates.

    I have June 18th as an "Inquest Hearing" and trial starts on 7/22/19 & should last 10 days. :)
     
  16. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Well - now I don't know....

    Fresh charge for Libby Squire abduction suspect Pawel Relowicz

    per this article:

    Relowicz, wearing grey joggers, a grey top and glasses at Friday's hearing, was remanded in custody on Friday and is due to stand trial on August 12 at Sheffield Crown Court.
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    Judge Mark Bury told Mr Relowicz: “Your trial on this particular charge will take place at the same time as your other charges you deny and that is fixed for 12th August it will take place in Sheffield.


    Did I miss something? TIA! :)
     
  17. Newthoughts

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    Nope we're all confused. Original trial date was in July in Sheffield. This new charge came out of the blue. Was he even due in court yesterday? Or was it to present the new charge?
     
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    I’m lost
     
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    I wonder if the new offence is listed for August, and the cps have to apply for it to be joined to be heard with the other offences in July - or postpone all of them to August. (Apply at pre trial review) There may be some legal reason to it!
     
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    @JosieJoe PR sounds a real slippery eel.Making all those witnesses that have bravely come forward ( 90!) be put through the ordeal of appearing in court.Hats off to them all for stepping up.Brave souls who like everyone here want justice.
    With so many witnesses surely it's not possible for PR to avoid jail time for some of the charges? Even if remand time is taken into account?
     
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