There is no shame, or shouldn't be in mental illness. Just a general observation.Yeahhh that's the thing, it still could have been an accident disregarding these vulnerabilities for whatever reason. Could have been anxiety, depression, eating disorder, BPD... so many things.
It is so very sad but i agree i think NB has gone elsewhere along the river, she would have had a few hours if she had made that decision. IMOYes I think she may have gone elsewhere (avoiding cctv) - perhaps she didn’t want to be found by family members/friends and didn’t want to do anything in front of her beloved Willow. God it’s so sad. I can attest to having MH problems (if that’s what it is) so it’s quite upsetting if this is what happened. JMO.
From memory I thought she mentioned it during her recap, as a way to explain why Nicola had immediately been classified as a high risk missing person. But it's not as if any reporters were querying why they started looking for her so quickly, so still seems an odd thing to emphasize, especially if they didn't want to invite speculation (personally I assumed the combination of the phone, the abandoned dog and the proximity to the river is why they started searching so quickly - in fact I was surprised when her partner said he had to go back home to speak to the police instead of them joining him at the river, as that seemed to waste a bit of time).possibly a reporter asked why she'd been categorised as High Risk?? but I'd need to rewind and check that because it's a v important question you ask
If the witness was the owner of the dog that spooked Willow - indirectly causing NB to stumble and fall into the River - I could imagine them being highly reluctant to call the Police due to their complicity. Even if the call was anonymous.
That's not correct, Rowanwater has a fence that meets the river so that pathway is blocked.has anyone seen or discussed this article by sky news - its interesting the map shows the footpath goes all the way to Garstang road via between Rowanwater and the river wyre
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Disagree. That and mentioning “sensitivities” in the earlier press conference is as far as they want to go publicly.The problem with saying NB had specific vulnerabilities, not explaining further and then asking people not to speculate, is that it does rather invite speculation...
No but there is still a massive stigma attached to mental illness, no one would want their loved ones health issues dissected by the world imoThere is no shame, or shouldn't be in mental illness. Just a general observation.
Have the woods and trees been searched thoroughly?
Not really. It's not like the entire 3000 police officers at Lancashire PD accompanied him.. only one or two, most likely.From memory I thought she mentioned it during her recap, as a way to explain why Nicola had immediately been classified as a high risk missing person. But it's not as if any reporters were querying why they started looking for her so quickly, so still seems an odd thing to emphasize, especially if they didn't want to invite speculation (personally I assumed the combination of the phone, the abandoned dog and the proximity to the river is why they started searching so quickly - in fact I was surprised when her partner said he had to go back home to speak to the police instead of them joining him at the river, as that seemed to waste a bit of time).
I agree, i had a mental breakdown when I was 27, i very little recollection of that time, thankfully. If you are in such a bad way nothing is rational or logical.Yes I think she may have gone elsewhere (avoiding cctv) - perhaps she didn’t want to be found by family members/friends and didn’t want to do anything in front of her beloved Willow. God it’s so sad. I can attest to having MH problems (if that’s what it is) so it’s quite upsetting if this is what happened. JMO.
Indeed.No one knows what goes on behind closed doors.
Questions I would have asked:Journalists and reporters had ~24hrs to prepare good questions, and those are what they came up with? Give me strength.
I wonder what the statistics show for the death rate of women in their 40s in the UK who have died suddenly and unexpectedly by suicide compared to how many are murdered by rapist/murderers, murdered during a conflict that escalates to violence, murdered by their partner, murdered by an ex partner, murdered by someone else who know them well (neighbour / colleague / relative).
The biggest indicator of someone dying by suicide in their 40s is whether they have made previous attempts. Most people have made several attempts by the time they 'complete' suicide.
My personal opinion is no way has NB taken her life. If she was 'vulnerable' then it was for other reasons that I have in mind but can't state openly here. JMO MOO
They actually used “sensibilities” in the earlier press conference but that aspect was largely ingnored.I believe police knew very clearly what inference was likely to be drawn from the phrase “specific vulnerabilities“. It would have been chosen with great care. IMO they‘re trying to convey that they suspect suicide, while avoiding the use of that word. JMO and I sincerely hope I’m wrong.
The police are right not to give any further details but it's obvious that now there will be a feeding frenzy on SM to try and find out moreDisagree. That and mentioning “sensitivities” in the earlier press conference is as far as they want to go publicly.