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UK UK - North Yorks, 'Sutton Bank Jane Doe' WhtFem Skeletal, 35-40, Aug'81

Discussion in 'The Unidentified' started by Bobby88, Jul 11, 2014.

  1. Bobby88

    Bobby88 Whatever happened to Johnnie Herrera?

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    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases-int/528ufuk.html

    Recent DNA tests have been done on this UID, but no matches have been found. I think I remember reading a few years ago that in the very early investigations, the victim was thought to be an escaped convict, but that lead was quickly discarded when the convict herself actully wrote to the North Yorkshire police stating that she was still very much alive and on the run.
     
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    zwiebel New Member

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    Bobby88, was it the Sutton Bank Jane Doe you linked to? Only the link's broken so I can't be sure. Here's a link to the N. Yorkshire police page about the Sutton Bank Doe. Found on the same date you mention, so I think it must be her.

    http://www.northyorkshire.police.uk/8399
     
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    The deceased is described as:

    5ft 2in in height and aged over 35 years.
    All her upper teeth were missing, she had an upper dental plate fitted and she had just six lower teeth.
    She had short dark hair.
    The post mortem showed she had given birth to two or three children. She also had a displaced septum between her nostrils.
    Her toenails were painted pink - the varnish coming from the Max Factor Maxi range.
    She also had an abnormality to her neck vertebrae which would have caused back-ache.
    She had an old fracture to her ankle.

    Police have a full DNA profile now, which they got in 2012. But no matches.

    He added: "We have reissued the appeal for potential family members to come forward and also for the mystery caller who rang the police on 28 August 1981.

    "At the time the mystery caller claimed he could not reveal his identity in the interests of national security. Perhaps he is now in a position to come forward and talk to the police. Alternatively, information could be passed to Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111."

    http://www.northyorkshire.police.uk/8399
     
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    Is a displaced septum visible, I wonder? I can't see anything unusual on the recon.
     
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    MelmothTheLost Well-Known Member

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    A chap I used to drink with many years ago who was ex-special forces told me that during the 1970s and 1980s there was a lot of covert surveillance carried out on suspected IRA members across the UK mainland. The IRA had a substantial number of safe houses and weapons caches around the mainland, especially in rural areas, which were kept under observation, sometimes for lengthy periods. If something of that sort was going on in the Sutton Bank area it's likely that the body was discovered long before it was reported, and that it was reported only after any security services activity in the area had ended.

    Whether such an individual would indeed now be free to come forward I have no idea. Perhaps anonymously.
     
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    MelmothTheLost Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if they also carried out isotope analysis when they had the chance. If they have been unable to identify her in the past 35 years they should at least consider the possibility that she was not British.
     
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    I've just been watching a crime documentary on YouTube and the first segment was about Gloria Bielby who went missing in 1979. I've never seen her on any missing person sites. Could this be her?
    The UK missing person site doesn't appear to list rule outs.
     
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