Deceased/Not Found UK - Steven Clark, 23, disabled, murdered, Saltburn, Dec 1992 *Arrests in 2020*

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  1. dalsglen

    dalsglen Well-Known Member

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    They might have all the right words but there's just nothing there in what they say. Cold.
     
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  2. Inspector Evans

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    I actually like the way MWT is doing this show (not been a fan of his previous crime shows on ITV).

    Obviously with direct access to the parents he can't just accuse them of murder and dismiss their POV but you can tell with his discussions with the former police officer he's pretty sceptical of what they're saying to him.
     
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    Mentioning the award now which has been mentioned on previous pages, presented to him by Andrew Neil (formerly of BBC and now of GB news) and looked like quite a high profile event.

    Parents claiming he was affected by his nan's death and not being able to secure full time job which is fair enough but I doubt those are reasons for running away suddenly.
     
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  4. Inspector Evans

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    Police can't confirm Charles actually went to the Boro match on that day.

    Interesting little tidbit there to keep this thread flowing for next few weeks...

    Anon letter written by female who had no contact with Clark family at all so sounds just like a random person thinking they did it.

    Police believe he's dead anyway.
     
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    It has always bothered me that the letter writer misspelt his name on the envelope.
     
  6. crazychris

    crazychris Well-Known Member

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    A thought struck me and the programme didn't refer to it at all. Did no-one see them walking to the place where the toilets are though, given it's about a 45 minute walk? Surely others around. Maybe no-one came forward. If it was Dec. 28th it would be a Bank Holiday for Boxing Day which would have been the Sat. Should have been many out walking.

    I tend to think they had nothing to do with it but maybe grey-haired man harmed him. I think the cops still suspect them privately though.
     
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  7. crazychris

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    After 29 years he most likely is.
     
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  8. crazychris

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    Wonder what the "area of significance" in their garden was. No remains found though. Could they have moved them over the last 30 years?
     
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  9. crazychris

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    Probably married with family of her own and doesn't want any publicity, reporters hanging around her etc. Don't think I would either. No word of where she was at the time, at home or not.
     
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  10. JosieJo

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    Hi All...id never heard of this case but just happened to watch the TV programme tonight.
    A very odd and interesting case. A few thoughts ..not knowing any background at all.

    Odd that he just happened to not go to the football that day.

    Odd if not one person came forward to say they had seen him and his mother walking that day .

    Hadn't got any belongings with him ... he may not have had his wallet but not his glasses or watch

    I realise that not everyone thinks the same way .. but ..I would have definitely gone to mens toilet entrance and shouted his name and likely gone in when no one inside..this is nothing to do with his disabilities or age etc ...id have done it to anyone I was waiting for before walking off
     
  11. crazychris

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    Have police confirmed that the father definitely went to the match that day?
     
  12. Alyce

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    Police can't confirm Charles actually went to the Boro match on that day.


    snipped from Inspector Evans post, #627 - see above
     
  13. hettywainthropp

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    Did anyone else pick up on the fact that the Police found something in the garden but "it wasn't enough"? Earlier the parent's had said only they went into their garden.
     
  14. crazychris

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    Yes the exact words were "an area of significance" was found. No remains though.
     
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    Thanks for clarifying crazychris :)
     
  16. Inspector Evans

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    Yes again going back in previous pages and threads on this I think it was found she was actually at Uni at the time but would've likely been back at home given it was the holiday period as majority of students area.

    Her whereabouts on day in question and days after never been reported.
     
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  17. MsMiniSleuth

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    If Doris saw two men and a child outside the gents while she was waiting for Steven, were these two ever located? Surely that would confirm whether or not her story was true?

    Yorkshire folk often have a strong reserve, particularly in public, with not showing feelings, so I don't put too much weight on that. But what I do find incomprehensible is that she saw her son go in the toilets, but never come out. How? Impossible unless there was another exit (unlikely) or he climbed out of a window (also unlikely). And surely after a certain amount of time age would have just gone to door and called him and asked if he was okay, and gone in if got no response. I find it impossible to believe she did neither, just merely walked home alone.

    Or did she say he went in, then she went to ladies herself, and then came back to wait for him? I missed that bit on doc. If so, then yes, he could easily have left and walked off.
     
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    Thanks for reporting, I can't watch the programme so it is nice to have a live feed ;)

    About the line that I bolded:

    Police can't confirm Charles actually went to the Boro match on that day.

    I wonder what the context was of this non-confirmation? Did LE check at the time? The parents weren't suspects then and Steven was supposed to have gone missing, there was no assumed murder case.
    So would this 'cannot confirm' be more of a polite way to say that they did not do their homework? Or did they really expect that Charles would have kept the ticket all these years?

    If find it still very odd that a letter written by a random stranger with no inside information or detailed knowledge of the family would become so central in the investigation, decades after the officers at that time put it aside - and rightly so IMO.
     
  19. crazychris

    crazychris Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for that info.
     
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    I seem to remember someone here saying that women tend to take longer in the loo than us men. So let's assume he came out before her, why didn't he wait for her? Unless the grey-haired man, if there was one, persuaded him to go somewhere with him. Quite plausible.
     

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