UT - Gwyneth Paltrow sued over ski collision at Deer Valley Resort in 2016 - trial, March 2023 *GP Not Guilty*

[neesaki]

Thank you guys for giving a play by play. I just cannot watch this. I just can’t. I’m so embarrassed for his family! This lawsuit and whole trial is just embarrassing. OMG. Now we all know about his erectile dysfunction. That’s great. Why is this even in court? He sued because of who he had a run in with. IMO he thought she has millions and nobody likes her anyway so…He will lose, and then he’ll just look like the litigious opportunist that he is. And he’ll still have ED. Embarrassed for this guy.

But the thing is, don’t most older men have erectile dysfunction? Otherwise, why is Viagra so dang popular? I mean, come on gals.

 

[neesaki]

I just saw GP's testimony, and it doesn't make a lot of sense to me, she stated that she "looked down, and saw two skis coming in between her skis, and heard 'grunting'."

That just doesn't seem correct to me. As I wrote earlier, ski collisions happen so fast, it isn't "slow motion". Not calling out her recollection, just not understanding her testimony regarding the incident. It doesn't seem likely that would occur like this.

I agree. As a long time downhill skier of over 30 years, her story makes no sense at all to me. Lets not forget, she is an ACTRESS. This is nothing to her.

 

[turaj]

The best prediction I’ve heard so far is that the jury will decide in favor of the plaintiff but award him very little money. I think the plaintiff has built enough sympathy and GP is a celeb and comes off a bit aloof.

I imagine that could happen but I think a lot depends on Terry's testimony. I think his showing up for the first time in court today just for GP testimony is a clear indicator of his obsession with this trial and his "fame". He is star struck.

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

The best prediction I’ve heard so far is that the jury will decide in favor of the plaintiff but award him very little money. I think the plaintiff has built enough sympathy and GP is a celeb and comes off a bit aloof.

I'm having deja vu watching this trial and reading this comment about minuscule awards in civil trials.
I was on a jury for a personal injury civil suit including claims of ED. A doctor, from a very prestigious medical university, testified about an independent evaluation, which showed no physical injury, and the word psychosomatic was said. The judge said to disregard the last response. The next day in deliberations someone asked, "What is psychosomatic?" even tho there was no discussion of the testimony. I quietly said it mean that it was in your head.
The plaintiff's attorney was livid about the small award.

This was not a good gamble for the plaintiff and his attorney, who undoubtedly took the case on a contingency.

 

[acutename]

That would actually be plausible. Because I am still thinking about an actual ski collision. In your Scenario, the plaintiff did come up behind her, in a deliberate maneuver, GP was startled, and fell.

the only time I have ever seen people with skis sort of aligned like that is with really small children:

(stock photo from Google) and the rear person has their skis on the outside- it is obviously dangerous because both skiers lose some control and could hit each other's edges...In GP's scenario, if his skis came in the center she can't stem turn, and she can't plow stop without him knocking her down...IMO

I really want to hear his testimony.

 

[cuffem]

I just watched a clip on twitter. If she is Seriously claiming she thought it might have been a “sexual assault”, then I am totally done with her. <modsnip>

No I don't think she was saying that. Like another poster said she first thought for a second it might have been some Kook doing something to her, when it happened so fast.
I was just making fun of the tabloids and how they will present it.

 

[fred&edna]

No I don't think she was saying that. Like another poster said she first thought for a second it might have been some Kook doing something to her, when it happened so fast.

RSBM


That's my take on it, also. And, she heard him making male grunting sounds.

 

[neesaki]

Just finished watching GP's testimony. She thought she thought she might be getting SA'd on the slope? Where do all these loonies come from? Not one of them are credible, including the attorneys.

Exactly!

 

[neesaki]

DBM

 

[Tower]

If that‘s the case, I’m surprised she didn’t just tackle him. She’s big enough! And Maybe that would have solved things.

I’m sure you’re joking, but if this guy’s lawyers really have people convinced a 130-lb woman is big enough to “tackle” even an old dude, they’ve done a great job. She has always looked skinny and weak to me. 5’9” isn’t that tall, and she’s very slight. Moo

 

[neesaki]

I’m sure you’re joking, but if this guy’s lawyers really have people convinced a 130-lb woman is big enough to “tackle” even an old dude, they’ve done a great job. She has always looked skinny and weak to me. 5’9” isn’t that tall, and she’s very slight. Moo

Yeah… I was kinda joking. But Only a 130 lbs. at 5’9”? She’s skinny, but has a lot of bone mass. Regardless…..
Yes, In all honesty, the whole trial seems like somewhat of a farce to me. From the attorneys to the witnesses. One of the worst trials ever that I’ve ever had the “privilege” of watching. Thank goodness I haven’t watched much of it!

 

[mickey2942]

I agree. As a long time downhill skier of over 30 years, her story makes no sense at all to me. Lets not forget, she is an ACTRESS. This is nothing to her.

I wonder how many skiers are on the jury, Park City, UT, probably quite a few. Because if she had said something like, "It happened so fast, I was watching my kids, and this guy comes barreling into me" that would have seemed more credible to me.

 

[DFWNF]

I am having difficulty imagining what really took place. Many years ago skiing, BUT with my boyfriend and another couple, on occasion our silly guys would ski up behind one of us and then propel us down the hill, or also ski past us and then turn around skiing slow until we caught up and then continue skiing backwards facing us holding us and pulling us down the hill. Boyfriend or strangers or not, weird things can sometimes happen while skiing. I can't buy my experiences matter in the case, but if I was unexpecting it and a stranger did this to me from behind I would probably be scared and think a creep was being dangerous and really gross. JME/JMO

 

[Luna20]

I'm curious about the letter to the editor TS wrote regarding his leaving his optometry business / sour deal. I know it was years before all this but it would still be interesting to read.

Editor for who? What publication?

 

[jbc]

I have skied for over 40 years (geeze..., I used leather boots in my first ski lessons in 1968, but buckles had just come in, ha!), and I can see that GP's version of the accident could occur on a bunny/training slope for beginners if everybody is going slow and nobody's looking out. It happened to me as a kid, and other kids with me. If MrS was going fast, the lithe GP would have been really popped and we'd be hearing more about pain and suffering. Instead, they just went from slow near one another, to very slow and entangled, before they fell over together <modsnip: not victim friendly> Yeah, his life changed: he became angrier, travelled less, and couldn't get it up for sure, as he was paying all those lawyer fees from his 401k to keep this case going for 7 years.

I only know of GP from her crazy mag and vag theories you read about, but I never saw her in a TV show or movie. Doesn't matter to me. I saw her testimony. She speaks clearly, understands skiing, stays on topic, answers directly, and has patience and poise with the insanity that is all around her in that courtroom. And, she's supported by the only documentation made at the time. (btw, if she wants to spend $8k on ski school for her kids, it's her right and her business only. This is the USA gosh darn it - self-evident..., unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness...). [Edit that...more than 50 years, phew. <modsnip>]

 

[katydid23]

I think these daughters got far away from home at a young age and are NOT close to him at all. Now their father is in SLC for this trial and both of them can not get on planes fast enough to get out of town...can't even stay another night to be with her dad who is SO COMPROMISED???? Now she is complaining about catching the flight. The reg flag topic is too much.

She is coming to testify in support of her father but she is on a 5:30 pm flight out of town? Wasn't that cutting it kind of close?

 

[katydid23]

I just watched a clip on twitter. If she is Seriously claiming she thought it might have been a “sexual assault”, then I am totally done with her. <modsnip>

I'm not a big fan of GP's, but I do understand what she was saying...it was not like she really thought it was a sexual assault...it was taken out of context because she said in the 1st split second she wondered if it was someone jumping her because of the grunting sound and feeling him behind her...


I am also a life long skier and I can understand hiw that kind of collision can happen. Sometimes the person behind you manages to reach out and kind of hug onto you, trying to keep both of you from falling?

Also, she has lived the celebrity actress lifestyle her entire life----so she has always been vigilant and paranoid abut someone assaulting her. That paranoia comes with her job.

I dislike her but I dislike the plaintiff and his older daughters MORE at this point. I think he is doing a money grab and I hope he gets nothing.

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

Paltrow has been acting for more than 25 years and was a victim of sexual harassment by at least one of many men who have used their positions in films to make life hell for many females in that business. I don't doubt that other actors and random strangers have attempted to grope her, contrived accidental touching, etc. I have no idea what happened on the ski slope, but I can't fault her alarm at being in sudden physical contact with the stranger, even if she is regularly approached by strangers.
Edit to add, just in case you don't recognize him, that is Harvey Weinstein with his paw on GP's shoulder.

 

[neesaki]

Does anyone know why TS hasn’t been in the court room?

 

[Marie Bell]

Well. I'm a complete ignoramus when it comes to who's who in celeb land. I have no knowledge or opinion as to GP's character because I've never bothered to read anything about her or to find out. Upon looking up her film list I reckon I probably saw the 'Emma' film she was in, but nothing other than that. I've heard mention of the whole candle and 'gloop/goop' thing - whatever it's called, and without knowing more I suppose I've vaguely assumed she's either a real oddball or is shrewdly making lots of money out of people who blindly follow anything that a famous person gets into.

So when I saw her testify yesterday I was 100% impartial - save that I'd already formed the impression that the plaintiff is utterly trying it on. As a UK resident I found her a very good witness. Clear, direct, likeable, relatable, and sounding credible. Her 'affect' was not unlike, say, a middle ranking civil service manager. Sure, she admitted to having the ability to spend large amounts of money and have people around to assist and/or represent her. It would have been foolish and unattractive to be shy or coy about that. It's just fact.

From her demeanour when she looked at the jurors I felt that they liked her too. Which was world's apart from the plaintiff's 'try-hard' daughters, about whom the less said the better.
Sorry for the essay. Just wanted to set out the impression made on me; a fairly independent viewer (save that I do admit to having a dislike of exaggerated injury claims, whatever the liability situation may be).