Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #5

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  1. Curiousobserver

    Curiousobserver Well-Known Member

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    So this confirms what everyone has been speculating.

    She was involved in those sorts of relationships.

    #1 She didn't care if anybody knew, she was posting with her own name. That is a little risky and some might say reckless. That might be good news however in that she likely didn't have a burner phone and there are likely records of her contacts/relationships.

    #2 What might cause you to meet someone in a park at 3:00am that you would want to do more than sleep, more than see your cat, more than get some rest for your exam...

    #3 I am going to go out on a limb and say that this was not pre-planned before she left from LA. That means sometime between 1:35 when she landed, and 2:42 when the lyft picked her up, someone texted or messaged her where to meet, left their residence, and got to the park. If they didn't want to be at the airport to pick her up then they didn't want to sit in a parking lot for 30 minutes either so they were close enough to time it just about right.
     
  2. Teche

    Teche Well-Known Member

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    I don’t know if it’s been stated if the parents cannot or choose not to travel. It’s been stated that mom has an in-home daycare business. Do they have young children?
     
  3. SuziQ

    SuziQ Well-Known Member

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    Yes And apparently not practicing member.

    However, we have been warned off the topic.
     
  4. SuperTmo

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    Maybe she told her parents that one of her friends was picking her up.
     
  5. Teche

    Teche Well-Known Member

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    I would avoid that at all cost. I was trying to sleuth one of the hashtags on KL’s Instagram and later I got a “hello” from some woman...yikes!
     
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  6. PommyMommy

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    IMHO, this case is wrong on so many levels and until there is more information released, it will remain that way.
    Nonetheless, I hope ML is found quickly.
     
  8. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    JUN 26, 2019
    Where is Mackenzie Lueck? What we know after 8 days
    [...]

    Cameras that might have captured critical clues at the park aren’t cameras at all, according to city manager Ken Leetham.

    “This park’s right on a main street, it’s right near the police station, and so it gets a lot of attention. A lot of eyes are on this park,” added Leetham.

    But at 3 a.m.? Likely very empty, said Leetham.

    Those who live nearby say police have been patrolling their neighborhood visibly over the past few days, including asking those nearby for surveillance footage.

    [...]
     
  9. Jethro4WS

    Jethro4WS Well-Known Member

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    Her flight landed at 1:58 AM and the gate arrival time was 2:05 AM. Should be Southwest Airlines 3235.
    Southwest (WN) #3235 ✈ 16-Jun-2019 ✈ KLAX - KSLC ✈ FlightAware
     
  10. scapa

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    I know this has been mentioned in previous threads and cases, but it's worth remembering the role that a profound loss (ML's grandmother) can have in decision-making, especially at certain times of life. It can seem to draw a line under a time of life, can force reconsideration of where one is headed, the worth of particular aims and paths, and introduce the possibility of a radical, spontaneous change in direction.

    To someone who is experiencing loss and grief in this way, the palatability of an encounter or decision can be much greater -- it isn't a bad decision, but "fate" intervening, and what might have seemed reckless or foolish can be suddenly enticing, even logical.

    I'm not suggesting any particular sequence of events, just that ML's state of mind might have led her away from behaving in line with the expectations of even close friends, family etc. Previous behaviour, even when longstanding, isn't always predictive at such times. This might explain a greater acceptance of risk, and even a reluctance to reconsider a decision already underway, which then led to one of the several possible outcomes discussed here.

    Just IMO, although a fair bit of my professional research is in this area. I've both experienced and studied these phenomena over the past few years.
     
  11. anonypotomous

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    Did she possibly meet up with a SD whilst in LA? She posted a SnapChat video from the Ritz Carlton when she was out on the west coast. Maybe a UT SD saw this and got jealous, maybe texting her and fuming. Perhaps she wanted to meet with him as soon as she got back to UT to try and diffuse the situation.
     
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  12. ardean

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    Here's another plausible theory (if she has severe allergies). If she had an allergic reaction to a food she may lose the ability to breathe. If she's with a guy who doesn't want the relationship known he could have tried to hide her body.

    edit - I bet they are in contact with the POI and if not nefarious he is cooperating. PC's would slow down and the case would be worked on details and family matters until they are ready to disclose the full info.
     
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  13. chihuahua

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    I have not read this entire thread yet, but I am aware of ML's SD/SB stuff, and it's always a possibility this SD offered something she really wanted more than school.
    Like a trip around the world and a proposal. IE a ring.
    I know it isn't common for those relationships to cross those lines, but it can happen. ML was NOT a stripper or exotic dancer, but I have also known plenty of them that went on to successfully and happily marry men they met in their occupation.
    That's the best case scenario for her IMO.
    On the other hand, it's obvious that she isn't in contact with anyone to let them know she is safe.
    So no longer voluntary on her part.
    Just thinking outloud. There could have been a huge argument, or an accident, and it wasn't reported and she isn't with us anymore. :(
    Or maybe they are both missing, which I highly doubt.
    She could have been involuntary drugged without her knowing it.
    I know lots of women who have sugar daddies.
    It's been around forever, just not always referred to in that way.
    Even older women have them.
    Hoping LE is getting a full dump of her complete cell phone right now, though I also think she could have 2 phones.
    MacKenzie where are you?
    Chi (no stigmas in my world)
     
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  14. moonriverfarm

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    Marking my spot.
     
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    Understood, was just curious about an aspect of it, but I'll shelve that thought. Thank you for the heads up.
     
  16. SuperTmo

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    I disagree. MOO but I think it was planned in advance. I think either she or the mystery person demanded to discuss something immediately and in person and things went poorly. I think maybe the person found out she was seeing other people and flipped out, or there was a pregnancy scare or something and the mystery person made ML disappear. I don’t think it was a premeditated murder and s/he just got super lucky that so much time passed before anyone reported ML missing.
     
  17. chihuahua

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    Hey I got so "infected" with such things, that even with full online protection, I had to do a seriously cleanup on my computer.:D
    Chi
     
  18. SuziQ

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    An accident of some sort is a possibility. I don't think we know enough to know that, let alone know if it was an allergy.
     
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  19. chihuahua

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    Morning.
    Loving your avatar. :)
    Chi
     
  20. Gigi3

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    Good morning! Was it in the PC or somewhere else that states she was wearing a shirt with a peace sign or something to that affect on it? I tried to go back and look, but I know how quick you are at finding / remembering these details lol
    I may be thinking about another case... do you recall? TIA
     
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