Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #11 *ARREST*

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  1. ochemnewbie

    ochemnewbie Well-Known Member

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    Not only that, but before they even had a search warrant. His home and car weren’t searched until 6/26, right? I wonder if SG knew more about the case or his guilt before the police did. That’s extremely unethical.
     


  2. geevee

    geevee Well-Known Stickie

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    Agree, and didn't her father call in for a welfare check on her just a few hours later? If it had been her habit to turn off her phone or ignore her parent's text, KL not communicating even after 3:00 a.m. wouldn't have alarmed him enough to call LE. And it clearly did.
     
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    The timelines floating around aren't right. The police had used the expected time of arrival for the flight that night.

    Per FlightAware and her Mom:

    1:58 AM Flight lands.
    2:01 AM MacKenzie texts her Mom that she landed. (this would be while taxiing to the gate)
    2:05 AM Flight arrives at the gate.

    Per police (from video at the Airport):

    2:09 AM MacKenzie deplanes - appeared in the gate area (one of the photos released)
    2:42 AM MacKenzie gets in the Lyft car

    Per Lyft and phone records

    2:59 AM MacKenzie at Hatch Park.
    3:00 AM MacKenzie's phone is off.

    It took 16 to 17 minutes to get to Hatch Park.
     
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  4. MsBetsy

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    I bet LE will find a treasure trove on his computer.
    I wonder if he was making his own videos and that's what the secret room was for, although I would think it would be too small to film in.
    He could have made films in one of the basement rooms or his own room. That might also explain the women coming and going at all hours.
    I'm curious about the rape charges. If someone he hired to do an adult film filed rape charges, it might explain why the charges were dropped. It may not have been worth it to the woman to persue them, given the nature and circumstances of the crime. Imo
     
  5. JaneEyre

    JaneEyre Well-Known Member

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    I doubt he told her about a kinky sex life on the street outside the cop shop. I think he simply used a bunch of choice words, the kind WS censors, and that’s what she couldn’t repeat.
     
  6. InspectGadget

    InspectGadget Well-Known Member

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    Nice Find! That Venmo account is pretty interesting, as someone pointed out paying the attorney on 6/25 and many other misc charges.
    And what is with all the aquarium charges?
    Worth checking out, gives an but if an idea of his everyday interactions, etc.
    (Edited by me for grammar)
     
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  7. PixieStix

    PixieStix Well-Known Member

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    The parents didn't call for a welfare check until Thursday not 3 hours later.
     
  8. wary

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    You know, I’m not sure that I’d trust that news source. They’ve printed speculation and mistakes before in this case, I think. (Weren’t they the ones who said he was ‘in custody’ and then quietly removed that from their story?)

    The story just doesn’t feel right. I think that if AA were actually discovered to have a profile on a SD/SB website, it’d be bigger news. This feels to me as though the reporter may have just assumed something without evidence.

    Now, I do think it’s quite possible that he was on a SD/SB site. (Just like when they said he was in custody, and it was true—just that it was true a day later!)

    All this MOO
     
  9. Ltiger4

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    Thank you so much! Exactly what I was looking for. So relatively quick turn-around. This tells me her destination or at least WHO she was meeting once she got off the plane was already known to her. And she wouldn’t have had time for a change of clothes, so she met him in comfy attire. She was meeting him for some prearranged reason she felt comfortable with, and sadly, it was a trap.
     
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  10. PommyMommy

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    And, a day prior to LE searching his residence. MOO
     
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    Could be...but...

    “Choice words” are just emotion. Empty not worth mentioning in a report.

    The fact that the reporter mentioned that the friend said things she could not repeat on tv...leads me to think that they were actually information, not emotion. Just too perverted for a tv audience.
     
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  12. ochemnewbie

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    I’m really trying to figure out if this is “normal” at all, like if the police were obviously on his tail at this point...if not, I really think it’s fair that SG knew more about the case than LE.

    This would be difficult to prove, though. He could’ve just simply said he was the last person to text ML at that point.
     
  13. PixieStix

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    Hadn't the police already questioned him on that Tuesday? That was when we got reports they were in contact with the person Kenzie was last texting with but that he was not a POI? So, if AA knew the police had already found a trail to him, it would make sense he panicked and called a lawyer. I had always wondered about the police saying the last person she texted with was not a POI just to see what he would do and where he would go.
     
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  15. Jethro4WS

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    There is an aquarium in the living room that can be seen through the front window of the house in some of the media videos when the police were first searching there.
     
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  16. MsBetsy

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    Yes, I'm not sure it's been confirmed how they met yet, but I would not be surprised if they did meet through a dating website. I also wonder how many times, if at all, they had met in person before the night she was killed.
     
  17. PixieStix

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    I think it likely he called the lawyer and said the police are questioning me as the last person to have texted this high profile missing girl, "what should I do?" Lots of people contact lawyers in that situation whether they are guilty or innocence. The fact that is is indeed arrested now speaks to his mental state in calling the lawyer ahead of the search warrants and house raid.
     
  18. kpm

    kpm ~ i am easily satisfied with the very best ~ wc

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    He was in cya mode, he knew he had contact with her and a Lyft driver who could potentially ID his car

    Not to mention he had no idea who she may have told she was meeting him, so he wanted his bases covered knowing he may be questioned at some point
     
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    Yep. I don't think it's unusual at all that he contacted an attorney at that point. He knew he was going to need one. MOO
     
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    I doubt that he made any admissions. These kinds of offenders have a story for everything and lie until their last breath. But that early into it, I can't imagine he would make disclosures.
     
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