VA - Hannah Elizabeth Graham, 18, Charlottesville, 13 Sept 2014 - #1

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Just started following this case. Hannah is 18. At what age can a person be legally sold alcohol in Virginia? I realize these are college age kids, but in a case such as this I believe this is very important.
 
The killer of Alicia Showalter Reynolds, who was killed in 1996 as part of the Route 29 Stalker case has not been found.

There are a lot of unsolved murders in Virginia dating all the way back to the Colonial Parkway Murders from 1986 to 1989.


Bill Thomas
Brother of Cathleen Thomas
Colonial Parkway Murders
 
Personally, I think the area has had more than one killer. Too many cases to be the work of one person.

Virginia does have a problem with unsolved murders, though.

Bill Thomas
Brother of Cathleen Thomas
Colonial Parkway Murders
 
Personally, I think the area has had more than one killer. Too many cases to be the work of one person.

Virginia does have a problem with unsolved murders, though.

Bill Thomas
Brother of Cathleen Thomas
Colonial Parkway Murders

Morgan Harrington
Paul Zeller
Heidi Childs and I can't remember her boyfriends name
Cassandra Morton

Yeah, there are lots. You're right.
 
Just started following this case. Hannah is 18. At what age can a person be legally sold alcohol in Virginia? I realize these are college age kids, but in a case such as this I believe this is very important.

21, I believe.
 
I think there are more killers in Virginia than those three-- and Virginia has a lot of additional unsolved murders.

Let's see if this link will work. This is only the cases since 2009. We could fill the map again with unsolved Virginia murders an disappearances from the 1980s and 1990s:

https://www.facebook.com/SaveTheNex...8701238821410/840161872675341/?type=1&theater

Bill Thomas
Brother of Cathleen Thomas
Colonial Parkway Murders
 
The list of unsolved murders in Virginia is the past 25 or so years is a long list.

Bill Thomas
Brother of Cathleen Thomas
Colonial Parkway Murders
 
I don't see much similarity to either the Colonial Parkway murders or the Route 29 stalker, but there are sure a lot of parallels with Morgan Harrington. Tall blonde in an impaired state, separated from her friends, walking near but not on the campus...I hope the parallels end there.
 
The killer of Alicia Showalter Reynolds, who was killed in 1996 as part of the Route 29 Stalker case has not been found.

There are a lot of unsolved murders in Virginia dating all the way back to the Colonial Parkway Murders from 1986 to 1989.


Bill Thomas
Brother of Cathleen Thomas
Colonial Parkway Murders

Bill,
My condolences on the murder of your sister and her girlfriend. Was the Colonial Parkway under the operation of the National Park Service at the time of the murders? There seems to be a cluster of murders along Skyline Drive/Blue Ridge Parkway in VA as well. Charlottesville isn't far from this road which is also operated by the National Park Service. Wikipedia posits that a law enforcement officer or someone posing as one may have been involved. I'm wondering about a Park Ranger.
-necco
 
http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/Possible-Suspect-Sighting-Spurs-Public-Safety-Notice-275375341.html?device=phone

Scary

WASHINGTON AND LEE UNIVERSITY
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY
PUBLIC SAFETY NOTICE
On September 15, 2014, the Department of Public Safety received information from the Lexington Police Department that they had received a report of the possible sighting of a male subject identified as a person of interest in the abduction and murder of a Virginia Tech student, several years ago, who was visiting the UVA campus. More information about the original case, including a sketch of the individual, can be found herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Dana_Harrington.
According to the information received from Lexington PD, the report they received came several days after the sighting of the individual had occurred and they have not been in contact with any individuals matching that description or sketch.
If you believe you observe this individual, or would like to report a crime or any suspicious activity, please contact the W&L Department of Public Safety or the Lexington Police Department immediately at the following numbers…
W&L DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY – (540) 458-8999
LEXINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT – 911 or (540) 463-9177
GENERAL SAFETY AND SECURITY TIPS:
• AVOID WALKING ALONE AT NIGHT. CONTACT PUBLIC SAFETY (540-458-8999) FOR AN ESCORT OR USE TRAVELLER (540-458-8900 OR TRAVELLER.WLU.EDU)
• ALWAYS WALK IN WELL-LIT, HIGHLY VISIBLE AREAS. STAY IN FAMILIAR AREAS AND AVOID SHORTCUTS WHEN POSSIBLE.
• BE ALERT AND AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS.
• REPORT SUSPICIOUS PERSONS OR ACTIVITY TO PUBLIC SAFETY IMMEDIATELY
TO REPORT AN INCIDENT:
Contact Public Safety at (540) 458-8999
Contact Lexington Police at (540) 463-9177
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS?
CONTACT ETHAN KIPNES, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY
 
Carbuff, I agree with you about the lack of similarities with the Colonial Parkway Murders and the Route 29 Stalker case-- I was just pointing out that there are a lot of unsolved murders in Virginia.

I do see similarities between my sister Cathy and her friend Rebecca Dowski's murder and the other Colonial Parkway Murders in 1986-89 and the unsolved murders of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans in 1996.

The Fall 2009 disappearance of Morgan Harrington and Hannah Graham in 2014 certainly seem very similar, and I see some parallels between Morgan and Hannah's case and the Alicia Showalter Reynolds/Route 29 Stalker case from 1996.

Thanks.


Bill Thomas
 
Yes, but if the point was to divert attention away from the true scene, then looking immediately isn't a problem and might even be desirable. While everybody's looking where she said she was, they could be hiding her in the opposite direction or something.
I was discussing this with another friend. We began to wonder if the text was meant to lure her friend to The Corner (near 14th St.) I read the phone actually pinged from the location associated within that text message. But she had, a half hour earlier been over near Grady.

Two things really concern me. Morgan Harrington's Pantera t-shirt was found near Grady and 14th/15th St area, correct. So, Hannah leaves the party, that was a block and a half from her own apartment, at about midnight, correct? Then 30-45 minutes later she is many blocks NE of the area of the earlier party and seen on video tape in front of McGrady's Irish Pub. Then, another half hour later, her phone is back near the corner. She knew that area...why say, "I'm lost...come find me...?

The other thing that concerns me is that Samantha Clarke disappeared on the same date, 4 years ago. Hannah's situation is almost exactly like MH's, drunk, goes off on her own. The Daily mail states that Hannah's text got more erratic over the last hour or so. Just like MH was described as erratic. It makes me believe that someone drugged her drinks...such as we considered with MH.
"She told him that she was leaving and going home. He asked if he could walk her home and she said no she was fine. He stayed and she left.'

Over the next 35 minutes she sent increasingly erratic texts to her friends.

'One text message said, 'I'm lost in the area of 14th and Wertland' which is the area she was in,' said Pleasants. 'It's in an area she's very familiar with.'

Just after 1.30 her phone was either switched off or ran out of batteries and she has not been heard from since."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-contacting-family-friends.html#ixzz3DX98BjYX
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Wow.. How far is this from where hannah went missing? Please let them find him

OMG, I hadn't heard about that! Scary is right! My daughter and I stayed in that area last winter. Freaks me out.
 
Necco, thanks.

The Colonial Parkway was and is patrolled by National Park Service Rangers, and yes, this is something that has been looked into. At least one of the 150 suspects in the Colonial Parkway Murders is a Ranger who served on the Colonial Parkway during the 1986-89 Parkway Murders and was transferred to the Shenadoah National Park in time for the 1996 Williams-Winans murder.

Bill Thomas
 
O/T: Bill, do you know anything about the rumor that that individual had moved on to a different LE oranization and was involved in investigating Randy Taylor in relation to the Samantha Clarke disappearance?
 
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