WA WA - Auburn, WhtFem 98UFWA, 14-19, G Ridgeway Victim, Jan'86

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  1. sonz82

    sonz82 Well-Known Member

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    New reconstruction

    She is believed to have light blonde hair and blue/green eyes.

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  2. Mrs. Badcrumble

    Mrs. Badcrumble The North remembers

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    Ah, so she's a Parabon Nanolabs case! At least now we know she's being worked on, @theshadow45
     
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  3. Romulus

    Romulus Well-Known Member

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  4. Mrs. Badcrumble

    Mrs. Badcrumble The North remembers

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    "Through a grant, the King County Sheriff’s Office was able to submit samples from Bones 17 to Virginia-based Parabon Nanolabs, which isolated snippets of her DNA. Scientists used a DNA phenotyping process to reverse-engineer the victim’s probable physical characteristics.

    That generated a much more comprehensive profile than previously known, including her predicted hair, eye and skin color, facial shape and other physical characteristics. The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which previously had created a composite sketch of Bones 17 based on her skull structure, has since used the new details to create an enhanced composite."

    (...)

    "Forensic evidence indicates Bones 17 was probably in her mid- to late teens at the time of her murder. The Sheriff’s Office also has sought to use familial genealogy to identify Bones 17, but so far have had no luck.

    “This composite is sort of our half step to get there,” said Sheriff’s Office spokesman Sgt. Tim Meyer. “Our hope is it will help bring a relative forward.”

    Over the years, investigators have uploaded DNA and dental profiles into national databases and reviewed dozens of missing persons and runaway reports, to no avail. They’ve also had isotope analysis done on the remains to determine a region-of-origin of the victims, based on “where they were drinking water as they were growing up,” Taylor said.

    It suggested Bones 17 may be a native of the northeastern United States or Canada, she said, though it’s possible she’s from the Northwest."

    Investigators hope new DNA-enhanced sketch of ‘Bones 17’ gives Green River victim a name
     
  5. Al Ka

    Al Ka Well-Known Member

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    Guys, I just want to point out that just because Parabon NanoLabs has done phenotyping sketch for her, it does not automatically mean that they are the one who are also doing genetic genealogy for her. Parabon has done phenotyping sketches for many other cases where they have not worked on genealogy part.

    Genealogy could be worked on by National Center for Missing and Exploited Children team or DNA Doe Project or entirely someone else, until it is officially confirmed. But yes, it is being done by someone as we speak.

    Edit to add: DNA Doe Project is working on Bones 20 and they have worked on Bones 10 which were identified in January of this years as 14-year-old Wendy Stephens, so yes, it is possible it is them who work on this case too. But I guess it would have been listed on their site, so not sure.
     
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  6. ntt1

    ntt1 Well-Known Member

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    I wonder how much genetic material they need for the phenotyping process versus how much is needed to do genetic genealogy.

    Sounds like a difficult extraction, maybe they're having the same problems they had with Precious Doe/Lisa Roberts.
     
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  7. Beekarina

    Beekarina Well-Known Member

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    She reminds me of Pem Michelle Briggs.

    Screen Shot 2021-03-06 at 6.15.19 PM.png 20210402_175838.jpg

    Pem might be pushing the age limit a bit though? If this UID died in 1983, Pem would have been 20?
     
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  8. onceuponadecember

    onceuponadecember Well-Known Member

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    I'm no anthropologist, but I don't think the remains of a teenager and a woman only about 20 would've been 100% different. This seems like a plausible match
     
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  9. carbuff

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    That does look like a close resemblance.
     
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  10. onceuponadecember

    onceuponadecember Well-Known Member

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    I'm gonna submit it, I think it's worth it.
     
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  11. carbuff

    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I agree. Go for it!
     
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  12. onceuponadecember

    onceuponadecember Well-Known Member

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    The Washington detail hit me like a gunshot at a deer.
     
  13. Beekarina

    Beekarina Well-Known Member

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    Keep us posted. I believe @Romulus is a relative of Pem? I noticed that after I commented.
     
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  14. Mrs. Badcrumble

    Mrs. Badcrumble The North remembers

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    I just noticed that Jane Doe B-17 hasn't had her NamUs information posted in this thread. The page hasn't updated her recon yet, though. It would be great if someone with access could post the ruleouts, too, if they aren't too many.
    ***PMs of her dentals***

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    #UP9929
    Female
    White / Caucasian

    Date Body Found: January 2, 1986
    Location Found: Auburn, Washington
    Estimated Age Range: 14-19 Years


    Case Information

    Case Numbers
    NCMEC Number: --
    ME/C Case Number: 86-000818

    Demographics
    Sex: Female
    Race / Ethnicity: White / Caucasian

    Possible First Name: --
    Possible Middle Name: --
    Possible Last Name: --
    Nickname/Alias: --

    Estimated Age Group: Adult - Pre 20
    Estimated Age Range (Years): 14-19
    Estimated Year of Death: 1982-1984
    Estimated PMI: 2 Years

    Height: 5' 6"(66 inches) , Estimated
    Weight: 130 lbs, Estimated

    Circumstances
    Type: Unidentified Deceased
    Date Body Found: January 2, 1986

    NamUs Case Created: February 27, 2012
    ME/C QA Reviewed: February 28, 2012

    Location Found Map
    Location: Auburn, Washington
    County: King County
    GPS Coordinates (Not Mapped): --
    Found On Tribal Land: --

    Circumstances of Recovery:
    Victim of serial killer Gary Leon Ridgway, who confessed to this murder and pled guilty to Murder 1 in 2004. Serving life in prison.

    Details of Recovery
    Inventory of Remains:
    - Torso not recovered
    - One or more limbs not recovered
    - One or both hands not recovered

    Condition of Remains: Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only.

    Physical Description
    Hair Color: Unknown
    Head Hair Description: --
    Body Hair Description: --
    Facial Hair Description: --

    Left Eye Color: Unknown
    Right Eye Color: Unknown
    Eye Description: --

    Distinctive Physical Features
    No Known Information

    Clothing and Accessories
    Items and Descriptions:

    -Accessories
    None
    Near the Body

    -Clothing
    None
    On the Body

    -Clothing
    None
    Near the Body

    -Eyewear
    None
    On the Body

    -Footwear
    None
    On the Body

    -Jewelry
    None
    On the Body
     
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  15. victoriarobinson642

    victoriarobinson642 Well-Known Member

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    RULED OUT:

    MP5959
    Rose Cole
    07/01/1973
    Alameda CA
    MP6286
    Patricia Leblanc
    08/12/1983
    King WA
    MP4537
    Lisa Dickinson
    09/05/1976
    Contra Costa CA
    MP5814
    Andria Bailey
    10/29/1979
    Pierce WA
    MP18144
    Anna Anderson
    12/05/1983
    Orange CA
    MP14129
    Kasee Lee
    08/28/1982
    King WA
    MP5074
    Wendy Huggy
    04/07/1982
    Pinellas FL
    MP7928
    Susan Cappel
    03/16/1982
    Tuscarawas OH
    MP17369
    Janel Peters
    01/29/1981
    Los Angeles CA
    MP6022
    Carol Donn
    01/02/1981
    Palm Beach FL
    MP6307
    Mary Jo Long
    12/27/1981
    Los Angeles CA
    MP6782
    Kristi Vorak
    10/31/1982
    Pierce WA
    MP2921
    Barbara Cotton
    04/11/1981
    Williams ND
    MP14016
    Linda Jackson
    05/03/1983
    King WA
    MP5934
    Pollyanne Carter
    10/29/1984
    Pierce WA
    MP2395
    Joan Hall
    09/30/1983
    Clatsop OR
    MP14131
    Kelly
    McGinness
    06/28/1983
    King
    WA
     
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  16. insearchoflight

    insearchoflight Well-Known Member

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    You can add to rule outs:

    NamUs #MP17651Ashley Standish Higgins, Female, White / Caucasian

    I sent this one in and they ruled out based on dna
     
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  17. John/Jane Doe

    John/Jane Doe Active Member

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