Was it stated that whomever observed LS pacing up and down the highway/road watched him the entire time he was there? Did they see him walk out to the road, and then back to the room?? Could it be possible someone did meet him and that might be where he got the fresh money from? Maybe it was some sort of a "deal" ... or maybe he did walk off somewhere to obtain the fresh, crisp bills (ATM) ... I just really wish we could figure this one out. I hope someone is able to give LS a real identity .. and soon!
I wondered the same thing! Could this have been the event that was Lyle's proverbial last straw? Maybe not necessarily suicidal at the beginning of this part of his journey but in the process of running away. Homeless except for his car? Only things he owned in the missing backpack? Pure speculation on my part...If we are to consider that Lyle had no ID, but had toothpaste and a toothbrush (really, what dude carries that in their pants or shirt pocket?) ... combined with a possibly missing backpack missing, no bus drivers recall seeing him having seen him, then perhaps we could also consider he had a vehicle that is missing. Might even explain his pacing up and down the road.
I wondered the same thing! Could this have been the event that was Lyle's proverbial last straw? Maybe not necessarily suicidal at the beginning of this part of his journey but in the process of running away. Homeless except for his car? Only things he owned in the missing backpack? Pure speculation on my part...
If the motel doesn't have a website, would it only be known to locals/people who have visited the area before do we think? There's not a lot of information about it at all... I wonder if it was advertised locally or in travel guides back in 2001.
It's a very interesting theory. If you were living in your car for a while, that might explain why he took a shower as soon as he arrived in the room. Plus, the pacing could suggest he was looking for the car if he parked it close to the main road.
Also, the store (where Lyle bought the newspaper?) and motel were possibly owned by the same people. When you Google the phone number that the motel owner provided to detectives in the case file, it's linked to the store across the road.
Good to know! Thanks! I had not even considered that aspect of an ATM being universal in any way.BTW, Canadians have been able to use American ATM's and vice-versa since at least the late 1980s. Hubby and I are an Am-Can couple and we started dating back in the 80s and had a long-distance relationship and used our bank cards while visiting the other just like you can today.
What did she consider "the highway"? After looking at the scene from Google Earth, the inn sits directly behind the store and one could not see the main highway from there. Google doesn't follow the road going directly by the inn so it is not possible to pinpoint the exact view. If he was pacing up and down the road next to the inn, it would seem even more odd than the busier highway in front of the store.It was Aunt BW, motel manager, that claimed LS was pacing up and down the side of the highway on Sat. Who knows now if that happened?
Is it possible LS arrived at the motel on Sunday, 16 Sep? Risky for the motel people to say he arrived Fri if he didn't though - what if LE discovered his identity down the road and could pinpoint him somewhere else on Fri/Sat.
Click on ROUTE 40 EAST COUNTY - check schedule from Greyhound station to Aberdeen - get yourself to Aberdeen. Go back and click on ROUTE 60 ABERDEEN - QUINAULT - With your destination being NORTH SHORE - BRANNON'S GROCERY. When you arrive at Brannon's Grocery you are 15 miles from North Fork of Quinault and Graves Creek trailheads.
I agree with all you said.To my eyes, the writing for "For The Room" looks like it was done with a thicker tip. I'm looking at the one that was already given to us before.
After reading your post, I went back and looked at the registration. The writing style for "Lyle Stevik" and "1019 S. Progress Ave" 99% matches the style used for the rest of the words on there!
As for "Suicide", I'd wager that the pen was either a 0.5 or 0.7 point.
For me, the registration now throws a different light on the name and address of choice. How do we know if he even gave that name and address? Looks like the name and address might be a work of fiction in a whole other way. What if the desk had something for that particular Best Western laying around somewhere?
I have to fill out mine and my grandparents' last names, the day of the week, times of arrival and exit, and apartment # before I can visit them; and this woman can't figure to fill out a date on a hotel registration form, exact or otherwise?
Maybe LE's report told us a lot more with the stolen vehicle included. Could he have loaned his vehicle to someone and they never returned? It actually makes sense.If we are to consider that Lyle had no ID, but had toothpaste and a toothbrush (really, what dude carries that in their pants or shirt pocket?) ... combined with a possibly missing backpack missing, no bus drivers recall seeing him having seen him, then perhaps we could also consider he had a vehicle that is missing. Might even explain his pacing up and down the road.
But that is an explanation. I don't consider the single word suicide as such, but of course it could have been to Lyle. Maybe Lyle did not write it or he didn't write the other things since there does seem to be a discrepancy of pens and handwriting.To me, writing out the word "suicide" makes sense...he didn't want an investigation launched into his death when it was voluntary, and foul play wasn't involved.
I remember reading about another suicide victim(a woman, who is - to my knowledge - also still unidentified) who also left such a note the scene. It said something like, "This is a suicide, by my own hand."
We really cant narrow down his age through pictures or his brief interactions with the employees. Some people act and appear more youthful after 25 and into their 40s. I know a few people in their early 40s that look much younger than they are. I am not always correct in my guesses, but I do not think he is younger than 25. Then again I had friends in college who were 20 and 21 and appeared close to 40. Time goes by fast and people age differently. I dont remember, but do his dental records give some indication about his age? I ask because Jock Doe (Sumter 1976) was originally said to be 18-22. However, a dentist later came forward indicating that some of his adult teeth had been there longer than thought. They said his age was likely late 20s or 30s.
The ME should have been able to find other clues to his age through the autopsy besides dental. They work with skeletal remains and come quite close so an intact body should hold even more info to establish age.CCM said that his dentals indicated that he was at least in his 20s. I found the original dental info from NAMUS before they changed the site around, and I would say his dental age is 17+ since two of his removed teeth start to come in around that age (though other websites set the development age as early as 16).
The crime scene photos also gave us a few ideas as to his estimated age - including the development of body hair as well as body type.
Maybe LE's report told us a lot more with the stolen vehicle included. Could he have loaned his vehicle to someone and they never returned? It actually makes sense.