K777angel
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I think the puzzle has been solved. It just cannot withstand prosecuting in a trial with the bungled crime scene and Hunter's conduct during the investigation. :doh:
TLynn said:Just when you think you're out of it - they suck you back in. JAR is top of my list of suspects and, yes, he has an "alibi" but not one that was pounded by the police.
The fibers on JonBenet were consistent with the JAR comforter (according to either the CBI or FBI, can't remember which) - and as Bluecrab mentions - all the crime scene elements are related to JAR - including his SEMEN. To completely ignore that is what's ridiculous.
*Please source where it is stated that the dark fibers found on JonBenet were consistent with the comforter. I've never read that.
*You said "all the crime scene elements are related to JAR". NOT true! Just because his semen was found on one of his blankets does not mean it was part of the crime! Many young men have semen stains on blankets. Now if his semen was found on JonBenet or HER bed - that would be relevant.
When you state Patsy Ramsey's fibers were found in the cord - the same "consistent with" applies - you cannot scientifically "match" fibers.
*If you cannot "match" fibers - then you cannot say that it was JAR's comforter fibers on JonBenet either.
*Patsy's fibers found IN one of the murder weapons was from clothing she was WEARING the night of the murder. That is a fact.
I don't know of a telephone conversation being overheard (I'd like more info) but I do remember that the FBI's theory is that Patsy caught John molesting JonBenet, went to swing at him with the flashlight, but hit JonBenet instead - and that started the cover-up.
*The FBI had no "theory." They, after analyzing all the evidence, had many things to say about that evidence and what it meant and did not mean, and allowed for several different scenarios of what may have occured - (intruder NOT being one of them) - but never concluded any "theory" of their own.
There is no picture of JAR at an ATM - that picture circulated the internet (it showed no face and then disappeared), it was not evidence. The EVIDENCE was a receipt that JAR's lawyer gave to the police. It was a dated, timed, ATM paper receipt.
*Of course the ATM photo taken was 'evidence.' Just not the ONLY piece of evidence excluded JAR. They interviewed many witnesses who SAW him in Atlanta. Along with the ATM reciept.
Now, what college kid (or adult for that matter) keeps an ATM receipt for cash withdrawal (not a deposit, mind you) for over a month? Perhaps, someone who needed it as an alibi...?
*I have a college kid who does keep all his receipts from his ATM transactions.
Nothing unusual about that.
JAR's motive would not have been "molestation" as posted (why not wait until Michigan, etc.) - it would have been more like a couple of college kids, having seen the move "Ransom" (JAR stated it resembled his family), being drunk/drugs (which is in JAR's history) and obnoxious one night and conjuring up the whole scenario.
*No way. There is no evidence that JAR was that devious to hatch a plot to kidnap or kill his little sister! Typical college sophomore boys like to drink (alot - it's a national epidemic almost) and experiment even with a little pot or drugs. Does not make them killers.
The three boys were all from Boulder and went to school in Atlanta (small foreign faction), one was a pilot and lived near the Jeffco Airport. It was Christmas time (why weren't they home with their families).
*What "three boys" are you talking about??
The morning of the murder, John asked Archuletta how long it would take the plane to get ready to fly to Atlanta - Archuletta stated a "couple of hours." WHY? The plane was ready to leave that morning for Michigan....
*You mean the afternoon of the murder? When the police overheard John on the phone with Archuletta? It had been almost 8 hours since the Ramseys had cancelled their flight to Michigan that morning. Of course the plane was not "ready" to fly to a completely DIFFERENT state: Atlanta. And 2 hours seems very reasonable an amount of time to "get ready." Keep in mind - Archuletta would have to drop everything he was doing in order to accomodate John if he did end up flying them to Atlanta. I'm surprised the answer was ONLY 2 hours.
Archuletta was NOT at the airport when John called -- he had to return the call. Archuletta now owns John's plane (did Archuletta fly JAR back to Atlanta). If you've read DOI, John certainly uses private planes and they have played "cat and mouse" with them.
*Why would you expect Archuletta to be "at the airport" 8 hours after they cancelled that flight to Michigan? Where was he SUPPOSED to be?
John brags (DOI) how incompetent the BPD were and uses the fact that they did NOT check his plane hangars. (I do believe they only checked maintenance records for one plane).
*We do not know WHAT the BPD checked and did not check. And John Ramsey certainly does not know all that the BPD checked or did not check. He whined about that all through his book - and stated that the only information they had about the case they got from t.v. and media.
Of course, Patsy would cover for JAR....John lost Beth, John lost JonBenet - could/would Patsy allow for John to lose another child? And the black cloud that would always hang over their family?
*Not for a minute. This was her STEP-son. Not her own son. And her step-son was an adult. No way would she cover for him.
The neighbor Barnhill said he saw JAR arrive at the house that afternoon (only changed his story AFTER JR's detective got at him).
*Where does it state that John Ramsey's detectives "got at" Mr. Barnhill and got him to change his story?
John got an attorney for JAR, Melinda and ex-wife - yet, Patsy's side of the family was unrepresented.
They are Ramseys. IMMEDIATE family of John Ramsey's family. Patsy's family were in-laws and cousins and aunts, uncles, grand-parents.
John Ramsey had a financial responsibility to his own children still - and continued to support his ex-wife when she needed anything.
A deal was made to "clear" JAR and Melinda as a negotiating tool for a Ramsey interview. Why was that so important, if the alibi was so tight.
*Being cleared is not important if an alibi "isn't" tight - you'd never get cleared. Being cleared means that law enforcement is completey satisfied that you had absolutely nothing to do with the crime and in the case of JAR and Melinda, there was public specualtion going around particularly about JAR because he is male - and the White's I believe even pressured the BPD to clear them because they saw how unjust and unfair the speculation was.
Why the sudden change of plans for Christmas to be in Charlevoix? Perhaps, JAR was caught molesting JonBenet earlier and he was "kicked out" of the house. That would explain the "incest" in the dictionary and the reason JAR's bedroom was called the "Guest Room." Melinda's room stayed "Melinda's Room." Why did JAR no longer have a room in that house?
*Melinda's room was chock full of JonBenet's pagaent costumes and trophies. No room for "guest." They called JAR's room HIS room as well as the guest room. I do the same thing in my home.
And, if JAR's "forgiveness" statement was for Burke - who told him Burke was the culprit? Do you think Patsy and John would reveal that - and when...? When they were sitting in the car with Melinda's boyfriend (forgot his name for now).
*The Ramseys have stated they received many phone calls that morning. Do you really think that neither JAR or Melinda would NOT have phoned home to Boulder to speak with their father as to the reason they were being diverted from going to Michigan and on to Denver instead? We do not know just what transpired all through the night into the morning and early afternoon as far as who communicated with whom and what was shared.
In fact, read in DOI where Patsy is relating the story of her sister Polly the morning BEFORE the body is found. Polly of course is back in Georgia with the Paugh family sitting around, as Patsy writes: "As people talked of different aspects of JonBenet's DEATH...." She continues on and the says that "a few seconds later the phone had rung..... Polly listened in stunned silence as John told my family that JonBenet had been found and that she was dead." How could they have been discussing the different aspects of her "death" - when the Ramseys and no one supposedly KNEW she was in fact dead???
Why did JAR's friend (Brad, I believe) volunteer he once slept in JonBenet's bed (was he afraid of trace evidence being found).
*Because he probably HAD slept in her bedroom one time. So what? Lots of times we've had guests sleep in one of our children's beds when available.
JAR is a viable suspect - and he should have been looked at harder. PMPT quotes the police as believing there was a window of opportunity - and keep in mind the time difference between the two states.
*He was looked at hard. And cleared.
There are certainly pieces missing from the puzzle of this murder...
I think the puzzle has been solved. It just cannot withstand prosecuting in a trial with the bungled crime scene and Hunter's conduct during the investigation. :doh:
