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  1. OkieGranny

    OkieGranny New Member Staff Member Forum Coordinators

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    Exhumed last month for DNA testing:

    http://www.wiscnews.com/portagedailyregister/news/local/article_c4b5e94f-6fd3-5328-8fcb-1095622f63b7.html

    They're asking anyone who has a mother, grandmother, or great-grandmother missing since about 1981 to call Columbia County LE.
     
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    If she was between 45 and 60 years of age, I don't think she would have looked as "old" as this reconstruction suggests. She was only middle-aged...and the lower end of the range they're giving is still quite young.

    She may not even have had gray/white hair, yet. It could have been black, blonde, salt and pepper, etc.

    This might be why she isn't being identified. People might be passing over a missing person who just looks "too young" to resemble the reconstruction.

    That said, I feel like this could be a case of elder/disability abuse. Clearly she wasn't "known" or "missed" by the public(not working, not socializing, etc.)...something might have kept her shut-in for a while. I feel like she might have come to the area to be cared for by relatives(or to care for them, herself), and they killed her.
     
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    masnitram Antithesis

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    In Wisconsin there are actually two towns named "Caledonia". This case is closer to Madison, WI in Columbia County. The other "Caledonia" is between Milwaukee and Racine in Racine County....
     
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    The age is off, but Marie Jost was last seen two counties away. The exact date she was last seen is ambiguous at best, and LE suspects her family murdered her or concealed her death:

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/j/jost_marie.html

    Marie was only reported missing in 2012 when the SSA tried to verify her existence, as she was over 100 years of age, so this case wouldn't have been on LE's radar when Jane Doe was found in 1982.
     
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    http://www.hngnews.com/article_e00d0222-8799-11e4-adde-073e5ee62a9b.html

     
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    pleasestandby Inactive

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    That is true. She was found just off Petra Road in Caledonia, Columbia County. And the other Caledonia, in Racine County, Wisconsin, also has several unsolved murders (Stephanie Casberg, Racine Jane Doe,...) This Caledonia, in Columbia County, also has an unsolved disappearance just two miles west in adjoining Sauk County.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?56167-WI-Robert-Louis-Christian-18-Madison-16-Sept-1977

    Robert Lewis Christian was last seen and went missing during a trip from Madison to Baraboo on September 16, 1977 near Durward's Glen OLRG, Ltd., W11876 McLeisch Road, Baraboo, WI 53913. He was last seen going east. His vehicle was found on Tower Road (which turns into McLeisch Road southwest of Baraboo)

    The Google Map below shows the two approximate locations to each other.

    https://goo.gl/maps/R2A2J

    I haven't found any articles which say exactly where on Petra Road she was found.
     
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    Fairy1 No Country for Old Men

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    She was found about 60 feet off Petra Road in the town of Caledonia, between Konkel and Blacklock roads near Highway 78.
     
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    What if the family didn't know the woman was missing at the time the body was found, they just assumed that they'd moved away and lost touch? Maybe there were no family members to report her missing (other than the killer)?

    What if they weren't reported missing until several years after the jane doe was found and then misreported the physical characteristics?

    Who would think to match up a body found in 1982 with a person reported missing, let's say, three years later in July, 1985? If there was no DNA to be taken because the person was still missing, how could they match it up with a jane doe found in 1982?

    What a great way to get away with murder! I have just a scenario to fit this case. Let me know if it's plausible after I lay it all out in my next few posts.

     
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    The scenario will start with an actual unrelated murder that happened way back in October 1940.

    http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm176/pleasestandby2/baerwolfmurder_zpszwwha1vc.jpg

    Hugo Baerwolf, Sr., age 67, a Ft. Winnebago, WI farmer, slashed the throat of a female bar owner/bartender, Mrs. Elizabeth Agnes "Betty" Adams, at her Club 51 bar 5 miles north of Portage, Wisconsin over a dispute about money she owed him and a con job he said she was part of as reported in the Madison Capital Times October 23, 1940 in the above article. The article said she was nearly decapitated. There was also a romantic relationship going on between the two according to the papers. Baerwolf's wife had just died the year before after a short illness. She was survived by nine grown children and the widower.

    In February of 1941, he was found guilty and sentenced to 2 to 4 years at Waupun State Prison in Wisconsin. This must have had an effect on their children.

    Here's a Google map showing the areas mentioned, not too far from Caledonia, WI, where the Jane Doe mentioned in this thread was found. It also includes Adams, WI, the scene of the next crime to occur.

    https://goo.gl/maps/Zp5DX
     
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    The article reports Lorraine was 60 years old, 5 feet three inches tall and weighs 135 pounds.

    The Caledonia Jane Doe was Caucasian, 5 feet 6 inches tall, between 45 and 60 years old, and had likely given birth. There is an 80 percent likelihood that the woman was Caucasian. All points between the two women are right on except for the 3 inch difference in height, which could have been misstated to the police or mistakenly copied down as three inches instead of six inches.

    The last point I'd like to make is contained in the article below. Hugo Baerwolf, Sr's. sister, Minnie Baerwolf, married Charles Paske. Where did they live? Mr. Paske's Caledonia farm. Lorraine Baerwolf was from Leeds, WI, which is right below Caledonia.

    http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm176/pleasestandby2/baerwolf-paske_zpsxnbjs14f.jpg

    So, do you think this theory has any merit? Is there a possibility that Caledonia Jane Doe and Lorraine Baerwolf could be one and the same?

    Police have never released any information on this disappearance. How come?
     
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    In checking the following websites;

    Charley Project
    NAMUS
    Social Security Death Index
    Adams County Sheriff's Department Missing Persons
    Wisconsin DOJ Missing Persons website

    https://www.missingpersons.doj.wi.go...issing-persons,

    there is no mention of Lorraine Baerwolf.

    The last newspaper article on missing women in Wisconsin that ever mentioned her case was two years later in Madison's Wisconsin State Journal on July 30, 1987.


    We can pretty well assume no DNA was obtained from any family member back in 1985 (around the time DNA samples were first being taken), so there isn't any in any database. There are no mentions of her by family members on the internet.

    This all means that absolutely no one is looking for her. She's totally forgotten by not only local, state and federal law enforcement, possibly by her family, but for sure by the media and the public. Lorraine Baerwolf fell through the cracks, big time.

    This may be one of Wisconsin's most perfect crimes.
     
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    A new article on this case....

    http://www.nbc15.com/content/news/H...e-Doe-in-Columbia-Co-cold-case-465199643.html
     
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    Namus updated this case recently.
    Dona Mae Bayerl is listed as a rule out.
    I believe they have an error in their description of the pants that were found near by. Described as size 12 "Chesterfield" brown pants, the clothing label actually says "Christenfeld". They would have sold these pants at the local feed & supply store.
    This pair of brown Christenfeld pants may be similar to what the UID was wearing.
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    Just wanted to add, that a size 12 would make this woman approximately 150 lbs.
     

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