AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #10

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  1. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    Army of searchers forming today in Wisconsin in hunt for Jayme
    An army of searchers will soon assemble Tuesday morning in the hunt for evidence that Wisconsin authorities hope leads to locating 13-year-old Jayme Closs and solving the shooting deaths of her parents in the family’s home more than a week ago.

    Map from search registration/staging area to the Closs home:
    Google Maps
     
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    Twizzy563 New Member

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    Oh wow .
    Good eye!!!
     
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  3. PommyMommy

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  4. Slowermotion

    Slowermotion Former Member

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    Hopefully today we find some answers. Good morning all
     
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  5. kas

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    Someone posted something last night about how it would have been easier for someone to go in through a window and it just reminded me of that picture. Maybe they shot the small window to try to unlock the door? Or maybe that's how her dad got shot, looking out it to see who was out there?
     
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  6. thesnowflakesparkles

    thesnowflakesparkles Well-Known Member

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    This is all spot-on observation, thanks!

    You potentially answered a question I have in regards to sex offenders, but looking at Washburn County, just north of Barron this doesn't seem to be the case there. Shell Lake is the county seat and is lower than many surrounding towns/villages. I will have to look at a few surrounding counties to see if this is the case.

    Edit, sorry I didn't quote you right and I am not sure how to fix it

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    I noticed it in a close up of the door but haven't seen anyone discuss it.
     
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    Logically speaking, even if vehicle is a rental, there are more Ford rentals than Acuras. If it is an out of state vehicle, it could be the Acura.
     
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    I noticed under Dispatch Entry (Details) it says at 3:27 two officers enroute to this Cumberland address, but on the Radio Log at 3:27 it says the same two officers are enroute to the crime scene. Or maybe I'm reading this wrong.
    Log of Closs case activity
     
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  12. ludakristen

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    Interesting detail in the article. Denise being in an upstairs bathroom means the bedrooms are probably upstairs, right? Jayme was likely upstairs as well? (Speculating aloud)

    "Officers are working on the assumption that Denise made the call from an upstairs bathroom where she hid when shooting broke out.

    It is thought there was a knock at the family's front door before James went to answer and was shot through the woodwork.

    The door was then kicked in before the killer went into the house, shot Denise dead and kidnapped Jayme, it is believed."

    Elizabeth Smart joins appeal for missing teen Jayme Closs | Daily Mail Online
     
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    Great catch, EJB123456 & Dum-Dum Sucker!

    From the AB Show 10/22 CNN.com - Transcripts (bbm) :

    BANFIELD: Well, sheriff, it sounds like such a confounding story. And just over the weekend, we were reading through the logs of the 911 call and the response to the Closs home and it`s quite harrowing. And I think the transcripts really sort of tell a narrative of what happened in that home prior to Jayme being taken. Can you walk me through, now that it`s public knowledge, what those first responding officers saw at the front door and beyond?

    FITZGERALD: Well, in some degree, I can. And again, the logs that we released aren`t always the evidence that`s collected at the scene. They`re the first initial appearance that an officer goes through. But yeah, our -- the initial appearance with an officer were obviously some kind of commotion, as you stated, last week in the show. Our officers responded, pulled into the driveway, and saw an open door and then saw what they believed to be feet. And then responded up there and found the bodies of James Closs and then went in the house and found Denise Closs.

    BANFIELD: How far -- how far -- yeah, how far in the house was Denise Closs? If James Closs was found at the door, and as you just mentioned, I think that`s the first I`ve heard of this, sir, that when you`re officers responded, they could see his feet from the driveway sticking out of the open door of the home. Is that correct?

    FITZGERALD: I don`t know exactly where they -- when they picked him up on site. I don`t know if they pulled in the driveway or when they exactly saw them, but the door was ajar. And I can`t comment on where Denise was found in the house. But I think going to any scene like that, that`s what we train our officers to do is their first initial observations and that`s why that`s collected in that call log.
     
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    On the offenders, typically these are the level 3. Level 1 and 2s are not publicly listed, but get yearly visits from LE. Hoping one of those two vehicle owners already told LE they were in area at said time
     
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    Well that’s generous of you!! Thank you!
    :)
    Something significantly volatile happened. A man kicked in the door, broke it down angrily. Shot both of the parents of a minor. With the child right there watching and screaming. Then the child went with this intruder. Willingly. Or the house in the middle of the woods in the middle of the night didn’t give a kid enough places to hide in the dark for the few minutes before the cops showed up? Aren’t kids wiley and clever? And a 13 year old is so much of a contrarian.
    Whoever has her, probably has one giagantic headache right now. Or she went willingly.
     
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  16. Slowermotion

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    I would be a good assumption that all the bedrooms were upstairs then. Maybe there was only 1 on the first floor. I know some houses like that.
     
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    Right, it could always be the Acura, but since there are more Fords in general, and more in the area, it stands to reason that the Edge has at least greater that 50/50 chance of being what they are looking for, and I would argue much higher than that.
     
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    Does the house have an upstairs? It looks like it's one level with maybe a finished basement. It doesn't appear to be a split level.
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    That’s a very interesting theory. Shoots him and then kicks in the door or uses it to shoot small window. The first thing that stood out to me when looking at the pictures of the house was how much easier it may have been to gain entry from one of those front windows. Am I mistaken that there was at least one small pumpkin near the front bushes? Why not use that to break the window? Seems like noise wasn’t a concern here.
     
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    Thanks for the welcome.

    I have seen in my surrounding counties the higher SO number within the county seat. Would it matter how the crimes are prosecuted? depending on the DA and view of rehabilitation vs jail time? As I said I don’t know too much in regards to - just what I have observed over time.

    Motion lights have been on and off frequently with the higher winds we have had of late and I know we generally see them go off in the middle of the night at some point but then we disregard and go back to sleep. I also have had a neighbors dog trip ours off frequently and don’t think much else of it so maybe the light tripping on was normal - no cause for concern for the family? I know a lot of rural homes also have those sodium vapor type lights on a pole to provide light especially if there are other out buildings, giving flood to the area and since that’s a nightly light occurrence one could find the shadows easily.
     
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