AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #32

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Gardener1850 said:
Do we have any confirmation there are even basement stairs inside the house? I have lived in houses before where the garage was in an unfinished basement under the house but there were no stairs inside the house. Basement was only for additional garage storage/workshop type area in that house. Parking in the garage was not really practical since I had to walk back outside to get in the house, so I always parked outside in the driveway. I was just thinking that may explain James and Denise's parking locations in the driveway. Perhaps the basement is not connected to the main floor of the house via interior stairs.
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There are two photographs that I am pretty sure show different angles of the kitchen area of the Closs home that can be found. The reason I am fairly confident they are the Closs home are in one there is a kitchen chair that looks pretty similar to the one removed. In one photo, I believe there is a door that MAY be a basement doorway. If so, this may help figure this out. One photograph is the one of Jayme with her dad and she is in a veil. The second one she is in a summer patterned dress, sleeveless, with a bra strap or swimsuit strap showing. It is my belief both of these pictures are of the Closs kitchen and they are two completely different views which should assist with at least a portion of the house. I saw the miracles someone was able to do enhancing the chair photos, maybe someone can do the same with these. BOTH pictures show the same flooring as well although they were taken at different times I should add, so if one is the pic of the Closs kitchen, the other likely is as well.
 
Quill said:
Is there a link for the dogs tracing her scent to the driveway? I must have missed that.
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I remember tracing this to a FB post way back. Per TOS, I obviously cannot link it here, but it also could have been said in a video interview. I was never able to find it in MSM print.
Celt1997 said:
Was there any confirmation of what group she danced with? Or when her recitals/shows may have been?
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Sheriff: Miami tip 'not credible' in search for missing teen
Christine Fink, who runs the dance studio where Jayme has taken classes the past several years, described the feeling in town as a "panic."

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Christines Dance Company
MesquiteO21 said:
I'm sorry y'all I really did read somewhere that it was Jayme yelling for help. I've been searching but haven't been able to find the source yet. Could've been irresponsible journalism that I shouldn't have repeated. Backspace delete. Sorry :(
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You might be thinking of Sheriff Fitzgerald's 10/17 article in the Cumberland Advocate. However, it doesn't say that Jayme yelling for help, but it does say that a subject was asking for help.
http://cumberland-advocate.com/sites/default/files/*advertiser censored*-2018-10-17-a-001 e-edition.pdf
Gardener1850 said:
In regards to the BBM statement about all of the partners being available at the scheduled presser, I wonder if the government shutdown has affected the FBI agents working this case? Perhaps the delay of a week is to give government workers who were on furlough during the shut down enough time to get back up to speed on evidence result and prepare to speak on something at the scheduled presser?

Most likely the press conference is nothing new and simply to keep Jayme's case in the public eye but I hope we get some good news.

MOO.
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BBM I hope not, but you may be right. Something tells me we're going to get something new. I hope that is not just wishful thinking.
MOO
 
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MesquiteO21 said:
is radar considered an ok source? can't remember. i found another article that also referenced it but i think it's possible an iffy site (not TDM)
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It used to be outlawed here but Tricia has changed the rules and approved linking to Radar for this case. Many of us still do not find Radar to be a credible source since they "pay for juicy gossip" according to their own words. I think anything in Radar should be taken with a grain of salt, especially if it is info not published by any other sources. MOO.
 
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MesquiteO21 said:
is radar considered an ok source? can't remember. i found another article that also referenced it but i think it's possible an iffy site (not TDM)
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They pay for stories... I don’t think smerkers would lie... but it’s second hand info... think about it ... the 911 operator didn’t say she herd help ... just yelling...
If 911 operator hears help shed tell cops..

Could be help , could be perps arguing and Jayme whisper help... nobody knows and we won’t know till trial or 1 yr from now if were in same place ..
 
elektroangel said:
LOL I used to stand next to my grandma when she would play the penny machines in Nekoosa. The laws may have changed since then, but it was definitely pretty lax back then.
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lol, in Deadwood a person could take children in back when but not any longer I do not think.
some casinos in WI have areas you will see children in at times, like the snack bars or certain common areas maybe and such but for the most part only in the motels will you see them. And in the motels I would not even say it is that common, more often adults is what you will see but it depends on the area and the casino I suppose.

i do not see why Jayme would be at the Turtle Lake motel since they lived so close by but perhaps if the parents had a free night coming or maybe if out of town relatives were visiting and staying there? i think it more likely the photograph was a motel elsewhere.
 
Celt1997 said:
Not sure how the Casino ties into all of this, but you are correct that they seemed to want to speak to people there very quickly after the investigation started. I was just going over their website and noticed that they run a seasonal RV Park, as well that closes up on October 31. I hope they looked into anyone who was staying there and then left.
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The casino was contacted most likely because they have a security camera pointed right at the highway.
 
The Dude said:
Radar? Okay... benefit of the doubt and all that. So the police have been completely silent about everything to everyone, but they told Joan Smrekar that Jayme cried out for help on the 911 call? Yep. That sounds about right. :rolleyes: What I'd really like to know is why Radar refers to a 3 member family as a "clan". What? *smh*
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A hunch: JS reads about the case and talks about it with a bunch of people. Like the conversations on WS, it isn’t long before speculation morphs into fact that she’s sure she heard somewhere, maybe even LE. So, when she speaks to Radar, she “embellishes” her story without even realizing it. JMO.
 
*Removed_for_profanity* said:
Yes, but in my opinion of having used ATV’s and SxS’s extensively, a SxS is the worst choice (other than threat of injury is less. For an escape from LE, they are bigger, wider, slower and less manovorable. Also, most people ride the trails on four wheelers, so the ruts reflect that. A SxS is half again as wide, trying to drive fast is a risky proposition. Also, if you do flip it, you cannot flip it back over yourself. The visibility isn’t any better on SxS. I can’t see someone going to this much trouble, and risking everything on a high speed escape at night on ATV trails.

Oh, another benefit of SxS is you maybe get a windshield. Maybe.
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Exactly.
 
*Removed_for_profanity* said:
There is a product for atv’s That clamps on the exhaust pipe that muffles the sound even more than a stock muffler. It is marketed to hunters for driving quietly. I don’t know how much it helps, never heard one in person, but throw one of those in the equation and do a slow escape with no lights or sound...I can then see it going that way. Willing passenger or not. They would only have to be out of the yard in four minutes then...
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No lights in the pitch black. Fun times!
 
Rubiconbob said:
They pay for stories... I don’t think smerkers would lie... but it’s second hand info... think about it ... the 911 operator didn’t say she herd help ... just yelling...
If 911 operator hears help shed tell cops..

Could be help , could be perps arguing and Jayme whisper help... nobody knows and we won’t know till trial or 1 yr from now if were in same place ..
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Something else worth noting - at least when DailyMail interviewed them, they did so on video. She never mentions anything about this 911 plea thing at all. Radar on the other hand just prints whatever words they want. So. Whatever. Let's hear the 911 recording. Then we'd know what is actually on it.
 
daisy6441 said:
That picture looks like it might have been taken in the church. Maybe a loft in the church. It looks like a wall next to her with a window further down.And that ceiling is vaulted not a basement ceiling.
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Look at the pool
 
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