Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #51

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  • #461
I actually find it more credible that he got the name wrong. I struggled with the name myself initially. I kept saying Lowry or Landry, names that I'm familiar with. I find it very normal that he could see the name and still not have it register fully. I'd likely do not the same thing, especially in a heightened state. How many reporters have we heard mispronounce his name? I know I've heard it repeatedly. I've seen his name misspelled in more articles than I can count.

I believe him.

MOO.
I don't not believe him. I just think he's mistaken.
 
  • #462
For longtime Websleuthers, what is the typical arc for a case like this? Of course in the beginning there's a ridiculous amount of interest often furthered by the evidence, a better understanding of the timeline, interviews conducted with people close to the case, etc. But there must come a time when new information stops coming in, the amount of visible media attention dwindles, and updates from LE become less frequent, etc. When do you begin focusing on other cases even though the one you have been so wrapped up in still remains unsolved?

For me, it's pretty much never. I'm fascinated in this case by all of the theories and opinions you all put out. I am still following other cases closely, but they are in different phases with not much new news. I really enjoy the phase where court appearances occur and then a trial begins. I am a trial follower.

Dennis Davis, the guy who thinks he saw BL on Waterville Road near the Appalachian Trail.

Thank you.

What do you make of this call? I'm fairly skeptical, but open to anything at this point.
 
  • #463
That video still of GP crying with her head in her hands is so, so sad :(

I wish I could rewind time and talk to them both and try and persuade them to each go home to their respective families.

This is why this case makes me sad...and I think a tragedy.

I think that no one could have kept these two apart. Even though they loved each other, they could just not get along. Violence is NEVER the answer, and can escalate so easily. Couple officers tried to explain that to them.
 
  • #464
Gabby's mom made that statement about the DV incident right after the body cam video was released. At that time all she knew was that Gabby was missing. I think she just wanted the focus to stay on the search for Gabby, and also avoid speculation, since she was labeled the "aggressor." Imo
This article was published on Sept. 17th and references her mother's comments on Wednesday, which would have been Sept. 15th. Gabby Petito's mom Nichole Schmidt slams Brian Laundrie's sister over interview | Daily Mail Online

The article says:
"Addressing reports of the incident on Wednesday, Gabby's mother, Nichole Schmidt told DailyMail.com: 'It's irrelevant.

'Two people traveling together with each other 24 hours a day, it's not going to be perfect, it was an argument, and that's all I'm going to say about it.'"

The body cam footage was not released until the next day, Sept. 16th. At the time her mother said that, all that was available was the police report, which emphasized (and caused a lot of comment about) GP's "mental health issues". There was also a lot of talk about the couple in Moab that was murdered and whether the two cases were linked.

So the way I read her mother's quote was that she was saying, essentially, "all of this talk about my daughter's supposed mental health issues, and all this talk of a connection between her case and the couple that disappeared from Moab is just distracting from our goal, which is to find Gabby. She didn't have a mental breakdown, she had a fight with her boyfriend after traveling in close quarters. We know that she made it to Grand Teton, so whatever happened in Moab is not going to help us find her in Wyoming."

I doubt her mother thinks that the incident in Moab is no big deal after having seen the body cam footage and after her daughter's body was discovered, and after other stories of his behavior have come to light. But at the time of the interview, she wanted the focus elsewhere.

MOO.
 
  • #465
Yeah, I'm sure there are many men that look similar to Brian. He said LE didn't call him back, which they normally would if they want more details. They may have reason to believe that he is nowhere near that vicinity. Imo
What makes the sighting improbable to me is not that there are men who look similar to BL, or that DD didn't remember his last name correctly. It's that I find it highly unlikely that BL was able to get a nice, late model Ford F-150 truck while on the run. Still, LE should check out every lead. JMHO.
 
  • #466
Exactly. If there is a manhunt for anyone dangerous the headlines will say LE believe he is armed and dangerous, believed to be in this area so keep your children indoors or under watch at all time.
They also usually warn the public not to approach the person if they believe they are armed. Imo
 
  • #467
LOL. IMOO about 10-15 years ago they really dumbed down admission standards. Getting into law school from that point forward is nowhere near the level of difficulty it was decades ago when you had to be at the absolute top of your class. MOO. I agree this statement from him is a real stretch. Does he not know that there is an existing indictment and warrant that was handed down and issued expressly for this purpose? MOO
We are not allowed to sleuth him here, but you are free to do your own personal research into his history. IMO, MOO he is quite an interesting man!
 
  • #468
Anyone kind of at the point where they think LE and FBI know where BL is for sure and they are just waiting until they compile enough charges before they arrest him? Why else would they not be calling eyewitnesses back, seemingly uninterested in the details…unless they knew where he was? I know the right to a speedy trial in Wyoming has been discussed before but I’m thinking this is exactly why the searches are scaled back. I think initially they may have been looking for evidence from cellphone pings etc.?


Rule 48 - Dismissal; speedy trial, Wyo. R. Prac. & P. 48 | Casetext Search + Citator

not really...I don't think (I hope anyway) they wouldn't waste all those resources if they knew where he was. That would be in really poor taste.
 
  • #469
Whaaaat!!? I'm just getting on here today... DTBH is saying that there's a connection between DD and BL!? So DD might have been another decoy?

Lawdy..
Someone else posted that Dog appeared on another news show this morning and discussed two tips and they stated maybe Dr. Oz got it wrong and that the AT tip may not have known BL and the other tipster may have? I haven’t seen this video though?
 
  • #470
Ditto. He got the name wrong. He didn’t know what Brian even looked like in the first place. He gave no distinguishing characteristics about Brian’s hair, face, hands. I believe he thinks he is telling the truth. I just think he is mistaken and it wasn’t Brian.

I'm watching JB live and it was just said that this happened around 2:30am. So that makes it less likely.
 
  • #471
Someone was looking for this statement and of course there are several more pages now so I’ll just drop this here. Maybe she’ll come by and pick it up…

'I don't know anything about any kind of link,' Schmidt said in response. 'Obviously, they were in Moab at the same time as that couple that was killed. That's not our concern now.

'Let those police do their job figuring out how those poor people were killed. But for the lawyer to even comment on that, he's just trying to throw people off the track of getting them to talk about Gabby.

'Let's focus on the family telling us where Gabby is,' she added. 'All I'm concerned about it is the fact I know 100 percent Brian was the last person with her.'
Gabby Petito's mom Nichole Schmidt slams Brian Laundrie's sister over interview | Daily Mail Online
 
  • #472
not really...I don't think (I hope anyway) they wouldn't waste all those resources if they knew where he was. That would be in really poor taste.
I think they may have solid evidence he stashed something somewhere like a weapon or GP’s phone etc and that is enough justification to pour funds into a search. Who knows though..
 
  • #473
I'm just pointing out facts for the sake of clarity. We are all allowed to think whatever we want. Factually, however, he is not considered armed and dangerous by law enforcement.

Okay. My feeling is that we should not let our guard down and not ever assume the best about this guy or this situation. That's why I shared my opinion.
 
  • #474
I actually find it more credible that he got the name wrong. I struggled with the name myself initially. I kept saying Lowry or Landry, names that I'm familiar with. I find it very normal that he could see the name and still not have it register fully. I'd likely do not the same thing, especially in a heightened state. How many reporters have we heard mispronounce his name? I know I've heard it repeatedly. I've seen his name misspelled in more articles than I can count.

I believe him.

MOO.
Especially since "Lowery" is the name of another missing person in Yellowstone area, whose name has been in the news because his body was recently found "due to the search for Gabby".
 
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Finally got to a place where I could listen to this. He makes for an even less credible witness having gotten BL's last name wrong. That's pretty strange since he said he just Googled him. Hmmm
I don't see that. MOO. Why he did not pull over in an area where he had a signal so he could complete the call clearly in range is bizarre. But, I don't know what the roads out there are like. Perhaps there was nowhere safe for him to do that by the time he got through. But, it appears he gives his name and number (unless the dispatcher just gave up on that) and he does agree to meet officers. So, MOO still stands that I don't think the guy is deliberately lying unless of course, he doesn't know there can be criminal penalties for those actions. I wish we had the FBI call. MOO
 
  • #477
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Nothing either of them produced fit into this space or category. Most of that type of money making content includes either product promotion and/or insight, advice, education, tips or tricks filmed and shared with talking involved, not just video collages with a music background. It is all very odd to me and makes little sense. Again MOO!

Just opinion here, I think they eventually wanted to make money on their VanLife, but had not figured out how. That might have added to the stress both were under. And Brian beginning to question if it could work. Gabby trying hard to make it work...
 
  • #478
I don’t recall hearing that BL had ever been homeless or semi-homeless, had slept in any homeless shelters, or had hung out with homeless or semi-homeless people, ever.

Hikers and backpackers are definitely not homeless, nor are travelers in vehicles (RVers, vacationers, vanlifers, vandwellers, nomads, and the like).
I have not heard of "L" living a homeless lifestyle either. As for RVers, vacationers, vanlifers, vandwellers, nomads, and the like preparing one for a homeless lifestyle.....

There are very, different standards of living regarding vacationing, RVs, and nomadic lifestyles in material support, AC, regularity and nutrition standards of meals, hygiene arrangements, sanitation etc.

Some people live RV / nomadic lifestyles in luxury RVs that cost more than many homes. The RV, nomadic or vanlife life or other people, however, is well, closer to, but not equal to homeless.

I dont think "L" was from the luxury RV side of the equation. Rather, my bet is that his vanlife could have included missed meals, less than ideal hygiene and non AC. All of these can prepare somebody for a homeless life style.
 
  • #479
Finally got to a place where I could listen to this. He makes for an even less credible witness having gotten BL's last name wrong. That's pretty strange since he said he just Googled him. Hmmm
I don't see that. MOO. Why he did not pull over in an area where he had a signal so he could complete the call clearly and in range is bizarre. But, I don't know what the roads are like out there. Perhaps there was nowhere safe for him to do that by the time he got through. But, it appears he gives his name and number (unless the dispatcher just gave up on that) and he does agree to meet officers. So, I still don't think the guy is deliberately lying based on this call. MOO.
 
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For longtime Websleuthers, what is the typical arc for a case like this? Of course in the beginning there's a ridiculous amount of interest often furthered by the evidence, a better understanding of the timeline, interviews conducted with people close to the case, etc. But there must come a time when new information stops coming in, the amount of visible media attention dwindles, and updates from LE become less frequent, etc. When do you begin focusing on other cases even though the one you have been so wrapped up in still remains unsolved?
There are very many other cases going on all the time.
A single case can take years
If there is a prosecution it means a wait for the trial.
Court records fill that time.
Somebody usually keeps it updated.
Interest drops off during the waiting years.. maybe only a handful of people stay abreast of it.
In many ways this is the most exciting time.. the waiting for the capture.
I cannot see how or when that might come about , if ever.

I reckon , myself, he's holed up in a nice warm apartment or chalet or snowbird's home for the winter, has a fair bit of dosh to keep him going, access to a disguise wardrobe- he had ample time to prepare this, after all.
I doubt he looks anything like his photographs and I wouldn't be surprised if he is mingling freely amongst alternative communities where he speaks the 'lingo'

It is going on a tad tho..
 
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