Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #59

[Poppyflower]

I’ve been trying to get up statistics on the most common way someone kills their partner e.g shooting, stabbing etc. I can’t seem to find a decent source, does anyone have access to a link in regards to this. I’m wanting to know because GP death was ruled a homicide almost immediately, in my opinion this suggests an obvious COD. I’ve said before they ruled out a connection with the two other women who were shot, so In my opinion could this potentially rule out a gun unless it was a different caliber. All MOO and just thinking out loud.

ligature markings due to strangulation is my guess. Especially since he has used his hands on her face before. Would be easy to tell by just looking at her.

 

[Chicago54]

Dune pic....there's more pics out there. I think this is the only one I saved at the time.

I have to say, even though I’ve thought most of the sighting pics way off the mark, every time I see one of BL which emphasizes a certain posture he has, the rib cage thrust, shoulders back, spine arched, it reminds me of the photo taken 2 blocks from his home on 9/17!

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I'm a long term camper but we haven't done much boondocking and have a much bigger vehicle so I don't really think I'm qualified to answer. We do keep a hatchet and machete on hand though. They are definitely helpful, even though most times they want you to buy precut wood. I'd LOVE to hear from someone that boondocks on this.

We always brought some kind of clothesline we’d mcguyver to hang from tree to tree to hang my kid’s wet clothes on when they were little when we went camping. Is it still a common item for road travel? There’s probably some kind of fancy tool for it now. I haven’t heard boondocks from anyone not from around here in a long time. We used to tell the kids that’s where we were taking them on Sunday car drives.

 

[nocommoncents]

It takes a pretty long time to strangle someone to death, and it isn't easy. It would give you time to change your mind. Unlike a gun, which you can fire off in a second and repent at your leisure. jmo

That's my issue with the strangulation theory. I don't think he set out to kill her. If they were fighting and got physical, her fighting back would be motivation for him to continue until death. JMO

 

[ShadyLady]

Today not finding much on the FBI/LE search.

I can tell you from experience, sometimes finding people, bodies even for search dogs and even in small locations can be hard, which makes me think if he is still in the Florida park he might not ever be found.

 

[Mishmish]

And if they didn’t get them, what is heavens name were they calling 911 about???

46 calls in all. TWO on 9/10/2021



Brian Laundrie manhunt: Dozens of police calls to Florida home after Gabby Petito was last seen | Fox News

With the reports so heavily redacted, I am still left wondering if any of these calls might have been swatting incidents…

 

[LeeJay55]

His grabbing her in the face forcefully enough to leave wounds is a dead giveaway for me. If he disrespected her that much by August 12, imagine how it probably escalated by the time he IMO killed her. I firmly believe it was physical, not with a gun.

IMO

I think she was after her phone and he was.pushing her away!
Something happened between these two to.get.to smacking each other around! They both were being g aggressive imo!
I do not think a gun Was used either if a gun was used he would have been charged with murder day one!
Jmo

 

[Kristin Esq.]

I thought he might be alive but now, maybe not, too long with unconfirmed sighting etc. Anyone else, as the days pass, getting the feeling he too ?

Dead or alive, I'm losing hope that they will find him or his body at all.

 

[jjonez]

With the reports so heavily redacted, I am still left wondering if any of these calls might have been swatting incidents…

Please forgive my ignorance. What are ‘swatting incidents’?

 

[SandSage]

We always brought some kind of clothesline we’d mcguyver to hang from tree to tree to hang my kid’s wet clothes on when they were little when we went camping. Is it still a common item for road travel? There’s probably some kind of fancy tool for it now. I haven’t heard boondocks from anyone not from around here in a long time. We used to tell the kids that’s where we were taking them on Sunday car drives.

Due to life experiences, I have a duffel bag in my spare tire well that contains flares, a length of nylon rope, a small ax, 4 MREs, and various other household tools (i.e. screwdriver with multiple tips, socket set, etc.), flashlight and other items. My dad and brother always had the same... I don't think we're the only people who do these things and we aren't headed too far out of town on any given day.

I imagine a couple of years from now I will also keep a skateboard behind my car seat. *wink*

 

[Balthazar]

A hatchet makes a lot of sense, or even an axe. And either one would likely have been carried to their campsite. There seem to be a lot of orange marks, like there may have been splatter. I don't even want to think about that, however I would think that even if her body had decomposed, if either of those tools were used, the bones would tell the story. Poor Gabby! Poor family!

Those orange marks are used for making a 3D Crime Scene scan. They are not evidence markers.

 

[SandSage]

With the reports so heavily redacted, I am still left wondering if any of these calls might have been swatting incidents…

I think they were calls made from the house but if not, you make a good point.

 

[BeanieBod]

Is it hunting season? I have no idea when it's hunting season in Upstate NY. I'm not sure leaves changing has anything to do with cabins being occupied or not occupied.

From my own experience, this is my synopsis: Hunting season has numerous dates and segments based upon the game being hunted and the weapon being used. Typically, some type of hunting starts in September. Others may not start until January. It is such a variable for bowhunting, muzzleloaders, rifles, shotguns, crossbows, etc. Real hunters process the met for their families’ use. JMHO - I would not want to be in any woods from September through January without blaze orange on.

I know that cabins are rented specifically for Fall foliage. It is quite a tradition in many families to rent a cabin and s’more it up for a few days.

 

[cady]

That's my issue with the strangulation theory. I don't think he set out to kill her. If they were fighting and got physical, her fighting back would be motivation for him to continue until death. JMO

So, if it happened quickly without screaming and other noise, and not with a gun, what does that leave? If death was almost instantaneous, there would not be a lot of blood spatter or even pooling. If no blood evidence at all, likely strangulation or smothering.......which take a long time. jmo

 

[imstilla.grandma]

there is something about the Mustang and when it was ticketed and removed by the parents... would like to see those dates again.

Mustang ticketed the 14th...

Police recover the Ford Mustang of Gabby Petito's fiance abandoned in parking lot of Florida reserve | Daily Mail Online

possible discrepancy seems to be about when the Ls picked the car up- Wed (9/15) or Thurs (9/16) .... not originally about the Mon (9/13) or Tues (9/14) dates.
Car seized after Brian Laundrie note found as TikToker claims she saw him

Laundrie's Ford was found MILES from reserve where parents claim he went hiking

 

[danij614]

I’ve been trying to get up statistics on the most common way someone kills their partner e.g shooting, stabbing etc. I can’t seem to find a decent source, does anyone have access to a link in regards to this. I’m wanting to know because GP death was ruled a homicide almost immediately, in my opinion this suggests an obvious COD. I’ve said before they ruled out a connection with the two other women who were shot, so In my opinion could this potentially rule out a gun unless it was a different caliber. All MOO and just thinking out loud.

Found some interesting stats (links at bottom of post). Overwhelmingly, most domestic violence is perpetrated using body parts (hands, fists, feet, etc) but most murders (overall, whether it be domestic, stranger violence, whatever) happen with a firearm, assuming because a firearm is usually more deadly than mere physical contact with body parts. JMO. This is not to say use of physical force minus a weapon doesnt cause fatalities, just not as often.

One excerpt reads:

FEMALE HOMICIDE VICTIMS AND WEAPONS
Firearms were the weapon most commonly used by males to murder females in 2019. For homicides in which the weapon could be identified, 58 percent of female victims (910 out of 1,566) were killed with a gun. Of the females killed with a firearm, 59 percent were murdered by male intimates. The number of females shot and killed by their husband or intimate acquaintance (537 victims) was more than three and a half times higher than the total number murdered by male strangers using all weapons combined (146 victims) in single victim/single offender incidents in 2019. In homicides where males used firearms to kill females, handguns were clearly the weapon of choice over rifles and shotguns. In 2019, 65 percent of female firearm homicide victims (596 out of 910) were killed with handguns.

https://vpc.org/when-men-murder-women/

Weapons in the Lives of Battered Women

 

[Mishmish]

Please forgive my ignorance. What are ‘swatting incidents’?

Per Wikipedia:
Swatting - Wikipedia

(Numbers can be spoofed…)

 

[04009margaret]

there is something about the Mustang and when it was ticketed and removed by the parents... would like to see those dates again.

Mustang ticketed the 14th...

Police recover the Ford Mustang of Gabby Petito's fiance abandoned in parking lot of Florida reserve | Daily Mail Online

possible discrepancy seems to be about when the Ls picked the car up- Wed (9/15) or Thurs (9/16) .... not originally about the Mon (9/13) or Tues (9/14) dates.
Car seized after Brian Laundrie note found as TikToker claims she saw him

Mustang wasn't there Monday evening, trying to find an early morning Monday photo or Sunday evening photo but can't find one. It's my understanding most reporters didn't descend on the residence until the Monday evening timeframe. https://twitter.com/EvanAxelbank/status/1446967163072438274

 

[SandSage]

Per Wikipedia:
Swatting - Wikipedia

(Numbers can be spoofed…)

You are RIGHT!

 

[mlhenn]

Brian Laundrie manhunt: What makes a case 'cold'?

Some social media users are suggesting the manhunt for fugitive Brian Laundrie is already becoming a "cold case," meaning law enforcementhas no new leads on his location.

"...There is no official or legal definition of a cold case. Each jurisdiction determines when their cases are 'cold,'" Ryan Backmann, founder and executive director of a Florida-based cold case advocacy group called Project: Cold Case. "However, I can tell you that the overwhelming majority or law enforcement agencies don’t use an amount of time but instead consider a case cold when all the evidence has been tested, all the witnesses interviewed and all leads exhausted.

"He added that "most agencies would not consider a case cold only a month in" regarding the search for Laundrie and that "there is still a lot that investigators can be doing.""... As long as leads and tips are coming in, I am confident the case is not cold," he said