WA WA - Tacoma, MultiFem Late Teen/Young Adult, UP88637, Skull found after mudslide, Jan'22

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

Three* NamUs exclusions as of now:

MP4035
Kimberly Kersey
03/11/1987
Clark
WA

MP34474
Natasha Jones
05/07/2015
Knott
KY

MP20083
Nguyet Phung
05/09/1991
Snohomish
WA



*Nguyet Phung is listed twice.

 

[MadMcGoo]

9 Jan 2022, A3 - The News Tribune at Newspapers.com

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[MadMcGoo]

I was looking at possible Ridgway victims and had a question for someone more familiar with the area. Where could the skull have originated? If it was debris found after a mudslide where did the debris come from? I can tell you about tornadoes and the land in Texas but haven’t a clue about mudslides in Washington.

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[Mrs. Badcrumble]

I was looking at possible Ridgway victims and had a question for someone more familiar with the area. Where could the skull have originated? If it was debris found after a mudslide where did the debris come from? I can tell you about tornadoes and the land in Texas but haven’t a clue about mudslides in Washington.

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DNA puts a name to one of the last unidentified victims of the Green River killer

"Jane Doe B10" was one of four unidentified victims of Gary Ridgway, known as the Green River Killer. More than three and a half decades later, she's been identified as Wendy Stephens, who was 14 when she ran away from...

www.seattletimes.com

Jane Doe's NamUs' was recently moderated again (no new exclusions visible), but I notice King's county is also listed as case workers in addition to Piece county - well-known hunting grounds for both Ridgway and Bundy. I'm certain these angles are being investigated right now.

As for the geographical conditions for mudslides in WA, maybe @Springrain could chime in?


ETA: I just thought of something: If I remember correctly, Bundy decapitated several of his WA victims, and not every recovered victim so far has been recovered whole, so to speak. Could this be the skull of an already recovered victim? And how would this work in the identification process? Would there be a DNA hit on already ID'd remains? I know that NamUs pages sometimes stays up, even though IDs are made because the remains were partial, in case more remains are recovered at a later time.

 

[Springrain]

Jane Doe's NamUs' was recently moderated again (no new exclusions visible), but I notice King's county is also listed as case workers in addition to Piece county - well-known hunting grounds for both Ridgway and Bundy. I'm certain these angles are being investigated right now.

As for the geographical conditions for mudslides in WA, maybe @Springrain could chime in?


ETA: I just thought of something: If I remember correctly, Bundy decapitated several of his WA victims, and not every recovered victim so far has been recovered whole, so to speak. Could this be the skull of an already recovered victim? And how would this work in the identification process? Would there be a DNA hit on already ID'd remains? I know that NamUs pages sometimes stays up, even though IDs are made because the remains were partial, in case more remains are recovered at a later time.

So, at this point, I strongly suspect LE believes this skull is from a Native burial rather than from an SK case. There is not much chatter about this locally. My mother works very close to where the skull was found, and didn't hear a peep about it until I saw it on the news and told her about it - she hasn't heard anything about it sense, either. Locals here have really only heard about it via the news if at all. I was thinking about this case the other day. A weird one. I wish we knew more, but I think they are probably leaning towards it being hundreds of years old rather than something warranting a homicide investigation. MOO as a local.

Onto mudslides - landslides are not uncommon here, but major ones are not common either. There was a major landslide in Oso (Snohomish County) years ago, 43 killed; but that is not the norm. Mostly we don't hear about it much since it is not normal for the landslides to cause major damage. Lots of rain here! The one in Tacoma that unearthed the skull was minor, from what I know - I didn't even hear about it until the news about the skull, and like I said, I have family there - they were unaware there was one at all. So, not uncommon, but not a huge deal either unless it is bad. Flooding is more of an issue here. We had HUGE flooding issues where I live now (after moving from Tacoma area) last year, as well as in British Columbia.

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

Three* NamUs exclusions as of now:

MP4035
Kimberly Kersey
03/11/1987
Clark
WA

MP34474
Natasha Jones
05/07/2015
Knott
KY

MP20083
Nguyet Phung
05/09/1991
Snohomish
WA



*Nguyet Phung is listed twice.

MP2716
Jamie Grissim
12/07/1971
Clark
WA

has been added to the NamUs exclusions.

 

[Melzarino]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

UP88637
ME/C Case Number22-0110

Sex Female
Race/Ethnicity White/Caucasian, Hispanic/Latino, Asian, American Indian/Alaska Native
Estimated Age Group Late Teen/Young Adult
Height Cannot Estimate
Weight Cannot Estimate

Type Unidentified Deceased
Date Body Found January 7, 2022
NamUs Case Created February 4, 2022

Location Tacoma, Washington 98409
County Pierce County

Circumstances of Recovery Remains found while workers were cleaning after a mudslide.

Condition of Remains Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only

Hair Color Unknown
Eye Color Unknown

Does anyone know if they have compared her remains to missing Kaitlynn Munson? Tacoma is only about 35-40 minutes from Seattle and she's been missing since 2019 which in certain conditions unless we know what year they think she may have been killed could be more than long enough to reduce to skeletal remains.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Does anyone know if they have compared her remains to missing Kaitlynn Munson? Tacoma is only about 35-40 minutes from Seattle and she's been missing since 2019 which in certain conditions unless we know what year they think she may have been killed could be more than long enough to reduce to skeletal remains.

Kaitlynn Munson – The Charley Project

 

[DS2021]

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