• #26,461
Yes he did because the disconnection of that camera was at 1:47 a.m. and he was captured at 2:12 a.m.
The sensor obviously captured an event after the disconnection.
Although we don't know how that disconnection occurred via wifi cut / phone app etc.
25 minutes between the disconnect and the knock? That is an eternity for anyone pulling a job.
 
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I believe that in the first few days, the sheriff assumed this was an elderly woman who had wandered off confused. You know the saying, “Never assume anything. It makes an A$$ out of yoU and ME.”
See I think he quickly went to kidnapping by stranger. He was adamant at first that she didn't wander away. Media quickly jumped from that to possibility of kidnapping and if a ransom was ever asked for. Then about two days in, then a ransom message popped up and I think media and sheriff ran into that direction. They did crime tape and search Nancy's house about four or five times -- each time taking down the crime tape. They never brought dogs in to search from house to wherever. We just saw boots on the ground for the first time over a week after she went missing. We did see searches at her daughter's house, which does seem fishy. I truly think someone close to her did this. If it was a robbery, we have NOT been told to look out for those items. So, I think this was personal. I really wish they had done a ground search much earlier, kept crime scene tape up (even pizza and Amazon deliveries happened -- did they contaminate crime scene on porch?). We saw that it was their 3rd or 4th time searching that they found a camera they missed. What about these "gloves" that got sent to Florida crime lab? Were they looked over in the initial searches as well? I still think ransom notes were done by people not involved in taking Nancy. The criminal(s) went to extreme measures to not show any skin or identifying marks even though they thought they were dismantling the camera. It sure seems like this premediated -- who does that besides a close friend/family member?
 
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Do you have the link to his first interview? I got hinky vibes watching it a few days agai and then when the porch video was released the first person I thought of was him!
Inserting himself into the narrative.
Does he realize how much he resembles the suspect? :cool:
 
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Maybe a phone pinged near AG’s house late that night, and looking back at cell phone tower records, that was not a number that had history pinging around there.,ie. A possible burner phone. Excuse my non-technical explanation. Speculation only.
I wonder if it's the last place Nancy's phone pinged
 
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I keep thinking about how the perp didn't cover the camera with an open hand and used a fist. I watched the videos several times and wondered whether they don't have arthritis, a disability, or an illness that prevents them from fully opening their hand. JMO
I think the right hand is fully functioning. The way the gun is in the holster, this person is right-hand dominant. He would need that hand to quickly pulll out the gun if need be. No one would use their weak side.
 
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Saw this and thought of you guys! Keep up the good work! I know these thoughts, ideas everyone shares contribute and help!
 

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  • #26,468
the camera would not record if turned over. I found that out this week. Charging mine it was recording so I turned it over on the couch and it stopped recording and giving out notifications. mine is Ring though
 
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I think the right hand is fully functioning. The way the gun is in the holster, this person is right-hand dominant. He would need that hand to quickly pulll out the gun if need be. No one would use their weak side.
I respectfully disagree. He fumbled with the gun using his left hand a couple of times.
 
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I found the photo - looking at it it seems each indentation is the width of a car tyre but the two noticeable ones are too close together for the width of a car. But they could have been from two separate occasions.

Anyway, here is the photo, I don't think it aligns with a suitcase now that I've looked at it closely


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Those tracks are odd indeed!
 
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I don't think so, because the blood isn't present in the doorbell camera video .
The Lantana looks very dry and it may have been blown around by the wind, and trodden on by family members / police / reporters, at any time after the blood landed.

The puzzling thing to me is why the blood doesn't appear to have been trodden on or smeared, either by nancy or the assailant.

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She could have been carried slung over his shoulder. MOO
 
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How many times now has this guy been interviewed about this? (Attaching an image from the first one I saw.) It seems fishy he’s just hanging out over there repeatedly, waiting for chances to say it is the SIL who did it. He lives 15 minutes’ drive from there, he said in the first one.

MOO

There was a case in the UK years ago where two girls were sadly murdered, where the Perp was hanging around and giving interviews to mainstream news reporters. His name is Ian Huntley if you want to look him up.
 
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Tucson is sounding quite scary…
Is this related?
TUCSON, Ariz. (13 News) - A man has been arrested on several charges in connection with a homicide in South Tucson late Tuesday, Feb. 10.

The South Tucson Police Department said 26-year-old Leonard Miguel was charged with first-degree murder, robbery, kidnapping, and sexual abuse.

The STPD said the name of the victim, a 60-year-old woman, is being withheld until her family is notified.
wow .. look at the crime map attached for the crime in the area just in 2026 .. this is not a low crime area ... imho
 
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Another interview with Jason here, he had a ‘premonition’ that it is the SIL. This is so suspicious to me.

bbm

eh, any reporter can tell you the camera has a weird effect on regular people. they get a little silly and talk out of their rears. the common impulse to embellish or tell tall tales for attention gets worse. my gut says that's all that's going on here.
 
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Yes he did because the disconnection of that camera was at 1:47 a.m. and he was captured at 2:12 a.m.
The sensor obviously captured an event after the disconnection.
Although we don't know how that disconnection occurred via wifi cut / phone app etc.
There were multiple cameras on the property. The doorbell camera was likely physically disconnected as soon as it was removed from the doorway.
 
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LE should have a very good idea about any interactions with Nancy's phone. If it was an iPhone, it tracks pretty much everything the user does.

This video is 9 years old, so some things have changed within iOS, but it gives a good overview of what gets tracked. Timestamped to the section where they discuss lock/unlock states.

Am I right in thinking that Apple Watches only work with iPhones? So since she had the former, it's safe to assume she had the latter, too
 
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Am I right in thinking that Apple Watches only work with iPhones? So since she had the former, it's safe to assume she had the latter, too
Yes, of course! Very good point. She must have an iPhone.
 
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Tucson is sounding quite scary…
Is this related?
TUCSON, Ariz. (13 News) - A man has been arrested on several charges in connection with a homicide in South Tucson late Tuesday, Feb. 10.

The South Tucson Police Department said 26-year-old Leonard Miguel was charged with first-degree murder, robbery, kidnapping, and sexual abuse.

The STPD said the name of the victim, a 60-year-old woman, is being withheld until her family is notified.
Okay, seriously, I hope they’re investigating this. I know we’re saying big city, coincidence etc. about the Ring footage, which is fair. But this crime seems a little too similar to immediately be dismissed as a coincidence. Targeting a woman much older than him for assault, kidnapping and murder….

And this guy clearly has a vehicle so traveling around the city isn’t an impossibility. I hope they investigate it 🤷🏻‍♀️
 
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25 minutes between the disconnect and the knock? That is an eternity for anyone pulling a job.
I don’t necessarily think there was a knock or ring (on purpose, at least,) and feel that either he or someone else had already entered the house from the back by that point. And if there was an intentional knock or ring, that it was to alert an accomplice inside that they’re ready waiting at the front door, rather than trying to get NG to open the door.

JMO
 
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