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I’ve assumed all along that the glove thing was misquoted. At least now we have clarification. Gloves sent to the lab were the pair, not found at the house. Possible nothingburger.
Same. It was something I hoped was true, but was pretty sure it was not.
 
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It seems like LE doesn't have enough evidence to label them as suspects but they don't have enough evidence to rule them out. I wonder if there was an inconsistency in their version of events or LE can't verify their alibis. Interesting.
Good point. I was thinking that if their alibis are each other saying that they were home sleeping, LE can't rule them out, because the source could be covering for the other (or both involved).

Given the recent events, I am leaning much farther away from family involvement. JMO.
 
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Odd how they just seem to appear in the front, just to the right of the stairs. They also seem to go out to the street. Also, noted that they are more visible from drone cam than eye level. Makes me wonder if they were even documented.View attachment 644566
Moo...could be tracks form a 2 wheel wheel barrow used for yard clean up.....moo
 
  • #26,624
Same. It was something I hoped was true, but was pretty sure it was not.
Missing a glove in the house would have been unforgivable. How these nonfacts take on a life of their own is, as well, irresponsible. JMO
 
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I'm not sure how reliable or relevant this is, but a quick search of the term "Can you trace bitcoin" on Google Trends shows that there was a hit, in Arizona, on the 20th January. Over the last 30 days there were hits for the same search term in only 6 of the 50 states in the USA. The only search that appeared prior to NG's disappearance? The one in Arizona.

Apologies of this has been posted previously, or can be easily debunked, I just thought it was interesting.
You should call in the tip?
 
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I’m not convinced that it is the same person but, if it is, does anyone else think this guy may have a neck tattoo?
iPhone photo of my computer screen:
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I think we can infer that blood is at least one of the DNA sources from inside the home, because it isn't likely that she just started bleeding when she went out the door.

JMO.
Playing devils advocate, unless porch blood was planted later.
 
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If I heard correctly, she is talking about AG and TC's neighbors. Asking them what are AG and TC like. I base that on what she said at the very end, about "there's no need to keep going back there [to AG's home] to keep asking them, again and again...what are they like." The phone part was a little odd. She only mentioned it for a second, but said nothing more than, something like, 'and I guess there is a phone that was found -- ?' I am paraphrasing here.

All MOO.

ETA: clarity
I think Megyn Kelly said they are looking for a phone, as though one might have been tossed or dropped somewhere in AG’s neighborhood. If true, LE may have detected a phone that was in the vicinity at a critical time that they have not been able to link to its owner.
 
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Here's the transcript from Megyn Kelly's video. I've bolded/underlined the part that now makes me think she is meaning Nancy's neighbours (so IMO they are asking NANCY'S neighbours about AG and SIL and a phone - this still is interesting that if true, why do they keep asking about them specifically; are they still trying to rule them out or...?):

"So, what that answers for me is A, Nancy Guthrie had the scare of her life when that man showed up in her bedroom that in the wee hours of that morning. And B, the reason they are going back to Annie's and Tomaso's house all the time, I think, is they're wondering if they had anything to do with it. I just don't like I don't understand why you'd be interviewing the neighbors over and over and over. and and Phil Holloway who's out there for us. We didn't get to this in his hit, but he's been talking to the neighbors and the neighbors told him that they keep getting asked about Annie and Tomaso and uh what what are they like, you know, that this is what the FBI and the sheriff's deputies are asking the neighbors. And he also mentioned for what it's worth that they're they're very interested in like a phone. Have they seen evidence of any phone anywhere? you know, maybe they're looking for evidence of, you know, that the guy may have dropped, etc. Anyway, I don't I don't mean to condemn them, but I just think like that's them doing their shoe leather FBI work, is it not? Like we've talked about family, friends, associates, neighbors, whatever. And and there's no reason to be asking the neighbors what these two are like, going back there time and time again if you're not potentially interested in"
-Transcript taken directly from Youtube

 
  • #26,630
Hard to believe most of what BE is saying here when he's still claiming a glove was found in the house, which the Sheriff just categorically denied.
He will correct himself if he gets the new info. Very good reporter you tuber.

JMO
 
  • #26,631

New short just posted

Matt Finn's interview with Sheriff. Sheriff is clear that he has no problem working with the FBI and that he's using the FLA lab because all of the evidence already gathered--including NG's DNA--is at this same FLA lab his office has used long before his tenure as Sheriff.

This case is the Sheriff's jurisdiction. Sheriff says he has the FBI in charge of Ransom note because they have the expertise. Sheriff says he doesn't have a problem with FBI.

There appears to be a FBI person who is unhappy that this is the Pima County Sheriff's jurisdiction rather than the FBI, and is taking the focus off of the investigation by telling multiple media sources that the Sheriff is withholding key evidence from the FBI.

Sheriff isn't withholding key evidence from the FBI but rather is using the same lab that they have used for NG's DNA and other evidence in this case so that results of the gloves can be compared with the other results the FLA lab already has.

No saying this Sheriff is perfect or that he hasn't made mistakes. Saying, though, that this is the Sheriff's jurisdiction and the FBI is here to assist Pima County in NG's case, and the Sheriff's reasons for using the FLA lab are fine. While trying to make the Sheriff look bad, this FBI agent is also making himself and the FBI look bad. JMHO
 
  • #26,632
Missing a glove in the house would have been unforgivable. How these nonfacts take on a life of their own is, as well, irresponsible. JMO
over the last few days I’ve stuck to local news only as I trust them to give relevant and correct information. IMO - I don’t think some of the national outlets or YouTube reporters care to verify info and allow bogus interview guests and “experts.” I don’t believe our local reporters ever mentioned a glove inside the home. Not that I remember.
 
  • #26,633
I actually interpret Megyn's transcript as AG's neighbors. I think AG's neighbors would have more insight into their character than Nancy's. The phone thing is weird, though. Unless there's a solid connection between the two locations, the intruder wouldn't have dropped a phone in AG's neighnorhood. It's all so confusing.
 
  • #26,634
Missing a glove in the house would have been unforgivable. How these nonfacts take on a life of their own is, as well, irresponsible. JMO
Not only that, but I'm fairly certain that Nancy had several pairs of gloves in her house, and if , like me, some without mates. JMO
 
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Where did the idea that the glove came from inside the home? I’m only watching local news because I trust their information more than certain national news outlets and YouTube reporters. I might’ve missed it but I don’t remember local news reporting on gloves other than the ones being found roadside.

over the last few days I’ve stuck to local news only as I trust them to give relevant and correct information. IMO - I don’t think some of the national outlets or YouTube reporters care to verify info and allow bogus interview guests and “experts.” I don’t believe our local reporters ever mentioned a glove inside the home. Not that I remember.
NBC reported it yesterday. Gloves found at Guthrie residence, sheriff’s department says

This case is under such constant public and media scrutiny that even MSM is jumping the gun and reporting incorrect info, IMO.
 
  • #26,639
Same. It was something I hoped was true, but was pretty sure it was not.
I had actually linked the info from FOX NEWS but it's been since deleted. So it was being treated as fact for awhile.

Unfortunately, I had a lot of hope in the DNA testing of that, because left in the house-- of course all shot to hell now.
 
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Are we 100% sure NG’s phone was found at her home?
 
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