Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[osu]

dbm

 

[stmichael]

Hopefully the perp purchased the holster and the backpack recently at a local Walmart and perhaps LE can locate receipts with both items and track down the purchaser. However, there's no way of knowing whether they were purchased locally or at the same time or just something he found around the house that he'd had for years. I'm not sure whether this one is the actual holster or not; but I am sure that the perp put a semi-automatic weapon in a holster designed as a hip holster for a revolver and wore it in front of him. I've been around guns all my life and I have never seen anyone do that. They do make holsters to be worn in front - appendix holsters - but none of them would be worn dangling down in front of him like that - they are designed to be worn where the bottom of the weapon is above the pelvic area to allow for walking, running, sitting. If I hadn't seen the way this guy was wearing his I never would have believed anyone would do that. It has to tell LE something - I'm just not sure what!

The universal holster he had had a long belt loop on it like these cheapo vinly holsters do. He attempted an awkward appendix open carry with it, but basically it was dangling low front and center off of his belt-line. It did not have a clip like say the kydex holster I use and would tuck into my belt-line if I were conceal carrying appendix style.

Moreso, he had what appeared to be a late gen semi auto stuffed into a longer profile pistol holster (?), and was wearing thick gloves that would be hard to fit into a trigger guard, so his entire set-up was impractical "show-over-use".

 

[BellaToothless]

Further observations re kidnapping and Lantana man:

1. Lantana man seemed to go through a lot more effort to conceal every inch of his body than he did to be agile for a break in. At least double clothed - likely done to shed top layer head to toe once kidnapping complete? The thickness of the gloved hand in FBI video seemed to make his hands almost unusable for fine motor skills.

2. FBI videos looked like Lantana man was thickly dressed and if so he would likely be on the slimmer side. Not much of a gut in pics even with thick or multi-layered clothes. Also he appeared to be bow legged. It did originally strike me as someone that has worked on his feet a lot based on his movements and lower body stiffness - although the stiffness could be due to the bulky clothing.

3. Was his head to toe coverage for DNA transfer, covering of tattoos or both? Someone in a much earlier post here mentioned they could see a tattoo through the gloves inside of his wrist. It did not seem apparent to me. To others it did.

4. He may have put the long side of his hand to the camera if he believed FBI had technology to see under his gloves and could therefore detect identifying finger prints or tattoos. If so, could be someone previously fingerprinted or identifiable through tattoos and he knows this. If he is single gloved then he has large hands IMO.

5. The gun holstered in the front seems more for scare than usage. Non matching gun to holster as others have pointed out causing him to repeatedly reposition the gun in the FBI videos strikes me as an amateur. IMO Professionals would buy a holster that holds their specific gun as they would be using it frequently for their crimes.

6. His clothing and shoes looked more new than old. Crisp almost - although need to acct for night vision images. Clothing bought specifically for this event? I don’t think a professional would buy a new outer set of clothes for each of their crimes but I remain open to this possibility. The outer layer was relatively inexpensive.

The lack of continuing ransom demands makes me think the primary reason for the kidnapping was not for ransom. And no body yet found dumped in the desert or elsewhere continues this theory.

If it was kidnapping to cover for intended murder then this would make more sense. If it was kidnapping gone horribly wrong and ransom was primary motive then it seems they would continue with ransom notes for return of body. It’s a lot easier to leave a body to be found for ransom than someone alive IMO.

Harvey Levin who received the 1st ransom note stated the grammar was “perfect grammatically and layered”. If we believe his judgment on this (he is an owner/editor of a media org - whatever we think of the org or him personally) then it would seem that someone very well educated wrote the 2 ransom notes.

Thoughts?

 

[Sdow]

I think one of those detained last night will be arrested once DNA results come back for them. That’s just my feeling. The amount of resources put into last night wasn’t for something minor. MOO

I hope you’re right.

 

[LRinCA]

Pool cleaning via CNN

They also addressed a pool maintenance crew that was seen at Guthrie’s home yesterday, saying it was “at the request of the Guthrie family.” The general manager of the pool company, Ken Kingan, told CNN it was the first time that the company had serviced Nancy Guthrie’s pool. The Pima County Sheriff’s Department was present at the house during the service.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/nancy-guthrie-news-updates-02-14-26

BBM

Just putting this here as I found it interesting. When we had an in-ground pool we used the same pool cleaners for years and it was always on the same day.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I'm not really sure how the this man gained entry to the residence but I don't think it had anything to do with the Holy Spirit or an out of body experience.
Also did you take a look at him? Ain't no one opening the door for that.

Perhaps he just broke a window pane like a regular burglar.

I am 77. There is NO WAY i will open my door at 2 am to anyone! Nancy’s mind was sharp. I doubt she felt 84. She was certainly wise enough to call 911 if anyone is at her door in the middle of the night. Just because you reach a certain age you don’t just get stupid. As a matter of fact, it makes you a bit wiser and careful to take precautions. If only our bodies were as strong as our mental faculties, we would be okay. I still know how to shoot straight and not miss my target.
i am praying for Nancy.

 

[Slamalam]

This is from Megyn Kelly on youtube. Apparently a neighbor saw a guy on her ring camera snooping around on her porch looking suspicious. Please look and tell me this is not the exact man who was seen on Nancy’s porch and why hasn’t the sheriff released this picture to the public to warn them?
Only difference I can see is that Nancy’s kidnapper wore an outfit to cover who he is and the guy on this video did not. there is a clear picture of his face.
When he turns to walk away, his gait is the same and his hips are wider than his legs. Very same. And he has that look of the dark eyebrows, mustache and goatee. There is a profiler discussed here who drew a picture of what she thinks the masked man looks like. This video looks like a cross between DE and the picture the woman drew.

“pretty distinguished” eyebrows, eh, Megyn?
But seriously, that sure looks a lot like the hypothetical sketch going around.

 

[factseeking]

Hi I'm new but have been lurking for over a week.

First, thank you to Tricia for pausing the thread, cleaning it out and restating the importance of the rules which differentiate Websleuths from Reddit and fb IMO (which is why I'm here and not there).

My question: I know the people detained have been released but what about the car LE had towed? Has it been released to it's owner or does LE still have it for testing?

Also I'll be forever grateful to whoever can tell me what "db" or "dbm" means at this site! I think I've figured out the other abbr. Thanks!

 

[PacoElFlaco]

Check out the butt of the pistol. Note the curve. Do you think it could be the Ruger SR22?

 

[Wishbone]

I am 77. There is NO WAY i will open my door at 2 am to anyone! Nancy’s mind was sharp. I doubt she felt 84. She was certainly wise enough to call 911 if anyone is at her door in the middle of the night. Just because you reach a certain age you don’t just get stupid. As a matter of fact, it makes you a bit wiser and careful to take precautions. If only our bodies were as strong as our mental faculties, we would be okay. I still know how to shoot straight and not miss my target.
i am praying for Nancy.

Well said.

 

[Sdow]

I do remember way up thread , a picture posted by a member of, prior to the tarp blocking the view , tailgate down , with items on it , one looking like a backpack . I wished I grabbed the photo . Does anyone recall seeing that , about 12 hrs ago ?

Yes and it did look like a backpack along with other items.

Edit: sorry it was posted below that was debunked it belonged to LE. I missed that part.

 

[osu]

Side note, what is bbm?

bbm = Bolded By Me

 

[J-Kat]

Heard another theory that makes some sense. This was a botched home invasion and not a planned kidnapping, etc. Nancy resisted and there was concern she could identify the perp so she was taken from the home. Still does not explain how he gained entrance, etc.

 

[cspotrun]

I do remember way up thread , a picture posted by a member of, prior to the tarp blocking the view , tailgate down , with items on it , one looking like a backpack . I wished I grabbed the photo . Does anyone recall seeing that , about 12 hrs ago ?

Shortly thereafter, they clarified that the backpack wasn’t from the Land Rover. It was from LE.

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

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Sketch artist Lois Gibson released a sketch of what she thinks Nancy Guthrie’s kidnapper might look like
“I GUESSED at the parts of face covered with ski mask on this Nancy Guthrie kidnapping suspect. I used the surveillance photos shown,” Gibson warned after revealing her sketch to social med

Nancy Guthrie kidnapper’s possible looks revealed by forensic artist after reviewing surveillance footage

The famous sketch artist is offering the first glimpse of what the masked creep might look like.

nypost.com

I think it’s risky for LE to release a sketch of a masked suspect. It could be off and then the public is then thrown off base as to who to lookout for.

I remember some investigators in previous cases were hesitant to release sketches for this very reason. They’d only release it if it was a cold case and they have nothing to lose.

 

[stmichael]

Hi I'm new but have been lurking for over a week.

First, thank you to Tricia for pausing the thread, cleaning it out and restating the importance of the rules which differentiate Websleuths from Reddit and fb IMO (which is why I'm here and not there).

My question: I know the people detained have been released but what about the car LE had towed? Has it been released to it's owner or does LE still have it for testing?

Also I'll be forever grateful to whoever can tell me what "db" or "dbm" means at this site! I think I've figured out the other abbr. Thanks!

FBI still awaiting testing results is the general response published in articles (they impounded the Range Rover, sealed and towed).

DBM = deleted by me

 

[justwannahelp]

Your first sentence says they cannot ask the FBI to take the lead.
Your last sentence says FBI assists when asked.

The FBI came to town. And sheriff never asked. Yes FBI can take over.The sheriff only needs to ask their assistance. He should do so. Now.

It looked like they worked together quite amicably and intelligently last night at the Range Rover/Culver’s scene. I like that 2 departments are working together. It’s less likely that funny business will take place with 2 separate entities working together (checks and balances). They keep each other honest and no one gets sloppy. No funny business like we saw in the Karen Reid trial. I think Pima county should absolutely stay involved. The Feds aren’t necessarily any better than the little guys. Every department has value and brings something unique to the table. But overall it’s the checks and balances that we NEED especially in a case that makes absolutely no sense. There’s no clear motive….

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Harvey Levin and Mark Geragos Connect Dots in Nancy Guthrie Kidnapping

Nancy Guthrie's kidnapper has eluded authorities for 2 weeks, but the ransom note TMZ received is of intense interest to the FBI, and Harvey Levin and Mark Geragos both agree ... it may be the key to cracking the case.

www.tmz.com

 

[shonyakay]

 

[justwannahelp]

As our organs shut down, they start to break down, resulting in a certain smell. Have you ever smelled a dead deer?

ETA: trying to put this in simple terms btw, figured no one really wants to discuss the in-depth reasons haha.

Anyone truly interested can learn more on the body farm’s website where they study body decomposition in different settings. Interesting stuff if you don’t get squeamish

Original one is at UT Tennessee
There are others
U.S. Body Farms: Why Studying Corpses Is Key to Forensics