Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[branmuffin]

I think it’s risky for LE to release a sketch of a masked suspect. It could be off and then the public is then thrown off base as to who to lookout for.

I remember some investigators in previous cases were hesitant to release sketches for this very reason. They’d only release it if it was a cold case and they have nothing to lose.

LE provide sketches of deceased John Does all the time. They have the body, the height, the weight, hair and eye colour, ethnicity, etc. and might get several responses to identify them. Here, you've got a face grown from two eyes and I bet they're fielding hundreds of calls telling them who it is and they're all different people. It's misleading and slightly racist.

 

[ab01]

Based on what we know so far, I think the strongest lead investigators have is the clothing and gear visible in the security footage. Several of those items have already been linked to Walmart, and that may turn out to be a major mistake on the part of the suspect.

Walmart is known for meticulous inventory records and extensive camera coverage, and they also tend to cooperate closely with law enforcement. That means investigators can identify the exact SKUs for those items, then pull every transaction involving them across stores. From there, they can look for receipts showing one or more of the same items purchased together, which starts to narrow down potential buyers.

Even if the suspect did not buy everything in a single transaction, all is not lost. If they were careless enough to pay with a card, investigators can tie those receipts to the specific card and then check whether that card was used to purchase any of the other items separately, at different times or locations. If the suspect paid cash, the receipts still exist at the SKU and time‑stamp level. In that case, investigators can correlate the time of purchase to in‑store camera footage and try to identify anyone who matches the build, clothing, or movements seen in the original surveillance video.

In a case like this, the clothing is not just a disguise; it’s a breadcrumb trail that can be followed backwards through a system that logs nearly every sale and watches nearly every aisle

The problem is those items are all extremely common, they are equivalent to a plain white van. Walmart is a huge entity with online sales in person sales etc.

Unless they were purchased at a nearby walmart and within close proximity to the time of the crime it could very likely be like finding a needle in a haystack.

While those records are there to be found, unless they have a suspect in mind and can work backwards, It's going to be a monumental undertaking.

I see it as confirmation evidence and not something that's going to actually lead them directly to the Perp

 

[tricia]

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[m00c0w]

My logic is flawed if and only if I indulge your straw man, which I haven't and I won't.

JMO.

You stated:

That means, by definition, that federal jurisdiction now applies and now leads. A federal judge issuing a federal warrant explicitly confirms that.

Please share which crimes are enumerated in the search warrant. What crimes are they specifically looking for evidence of? Do you know?

You can call it a strawman all you want; it doesn’t make the statement less true. You are making a lot of assumptions and then making a very conclusive statement at the end of your assumptions. That conclusion does not necessarily follow, no matter how much you insist your assumptions are anything but sheer speculation.

JMO

 

[tricia]

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[Bluewing3102]

I knew the January 11th date was actually going to be important! I wonder who wrote the original Ring neighbors post saying that date which ended up being written off by LE.

Also this lists “west” twice and lists two different roads (La Cholla and Roller Coaster, the latter being near AG and SIL’s house) and doesn’t say a road to the east.

This graphic may help clarify:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022883834228793757

 

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[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

LE provide sketches of deceased John Does all the time. They have the body, the height, the weight, hair and eye colour, ethnicity, etc. and might get several responses to identify them. Here, you've got a face grown from two eyes and I bet they're fielding hundreds of calls telling them who it is and they're all different people. It's misleading and slightly racist.

I think there’s more,”we got nothing to lose” providing a sketch of John Does than providing a sketch of a masked intruder involved in a serious crime this early in an investigation.

But I could be wrong. This is the FBI after all and their tech is first class. If it works it works.

 

[JessieRoblin]

I think there’s more,”we got nothing to lose” providing a sketch of John Does than providing a sketch of a masked intruder involved in a serious crime this early in an investigation.

But I could be wrong. This is the FBI after all and their tech is first class. If it works it works.

I believe the sketch was made by a retired Forensic Sketch Artist. I don’t believe it was done by request of the LE involved in the case. While she is a renowned artist I hope that it doesn’t complicate the case.

 

[rebel123]

Agree. I can’t tell you how many of my pharmacy customers are not compliant with their medication. They can go weeks without realizing they’re out of refills. Going without is risky but not the end. Don’t give up hope.

What I would say, is that she has been 'kidnapped', that's a 'stressful' situation. We don't know what 'sustenance' she is getting i.e. food, water etc. It's a 'nightmare' situation. I feel awful saying this, there are probably lots of remote places around The Catalina Foothills, but any where a body could be left?

 

[Absoluterubbish]

This graphic may help clarify:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022883834228793757

Is the house that was raided last night within this perimeter?

 

[Roadette]

Is the house that was raided last night within this perimeter?

Yes

 

[Kemug]

I have been busy all day (down here in Oz), so am now hopelessly behind, and too tired to bother to catch up. Anyway it seems like nothing has changed. But I just thought I'd comment on how astonished I am that noone seems one bit surprised about all the security apparently needed in the US. I don't believe I even know one person who even has a doorbell thingy! Ladies and gentlemen, may I welcome you to Australia, the land of the free and (fairly) safe! (and no, I'm not telling you my address )

 

[britinsussex]

I'm posting this for those who may have missed it. Brian Entin is speaking with a retired FBI agent—lots of good information/explanation about the case.

 

[TheDinks]

Is the house that was raided last night within this perimeter?

Yep, not far from Nancy's (couple of miles I believe)

 

[Absoluterubbish]

Yep, not far from Nancy's (couple of miles I believe)

Thanks. I couldn’t quite tell how far the map extended.

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022883834228793757

"Residents living near her home, specifically from her home moving north to the top of Ina Road, going west as far as La Cholla Boulevard, moving south to River Road, and going west to the end of Roller Coaster Road, are asked to review footage from specific nights"

Looks like they got a suspicious ip address, perhaps from a burner phone?

 

[branmuffin]

All the items the suspect was wearing appeared to come from Walmart - the backpack, the jacket and the hip holster. They all looked pretty new to me. So was the suspect also wearing other new items like the shoes and the pants? He wore at least one other pair of gloves under the nitrile gloves so maybe this guy is also wearing something under the jacket and the pants, too to throw off any attempts to identify his build; to make him look stocky instead of slim. Maybe he bought everything new because his regular clothes would be more in keeping with his age, trends he follows, musical tastes and his style. Maybe he doesn't normally wear a $24 jacket from Walmart.

 

[PacoElFlaco]

All the items the suspect was wearing appeared to come from Walmart - the backpack, the jacket and the hip holster. They all looked pretty new to me. So was the suspect also wearing other new items like the shoes and the pants? He wore at least one other pair of gloves under the nitrile gloves so maybe this guy is also wearing something under the jacket and the pants, too to throw off any attempts to identify his build; to make him look stocky instead of slim. Maybe he bought everything new because his regular clothes would be more in keeping with his age, trends he follows, musical tastes and his style. Maybe he doesn't normally wear a $24 jacket from Walmart.

I think buying cheap items at Walmart was a very smart move. Especially if he paid in cash, in another city, or shoplifted them. Imagine if he had been filmed with a high quality professional holster and an extremely high quality backpack from a top of the line outfitter? He could have been traced very quickly. The only better thing he could have done is use stuff from a Goodwill or garage sale.

I do think the gun in the holster would be a better avenue to explore. Unless it is stolen or acquired from illegal sales and untraceable. Based on the curving shape of the butt, I think it is a Ruger SR22. Possibly a Ruger American Compact, 9mm.