CANADA Canada - Kai Pavlovic, 11, not found at wellness check, may be w/unk caretaker, late dad's family in NZ concerned for his safety, Burnaby BC, Sep 2025

  • #61
Kittypoo said:
Do we know who saw K in late September? Was it at school? I may have missed this information
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Late September was the date of the welfare check. The overseas families had not had contact with him for about a year. If he was in school in Canada, it would be easy to determine when he stopped coming, but for some reason they are not releasing that information. In that case, the parents must have justified his absence to the school. Then there are his friends and after school activities. The authorities seem to be interested in those.
 
  • #62
alexina said:
Did anyone from either side of the family have had any contact with him this year?
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SBM. Not that any of them would mention. They might have received pictures of him, but those could be older.

I don't see Kai's extended families as a threat. Something must be wrong with the parents. (JMO)
 
  • #63
New article, but not much news. A private investigator gives his opinion about the situation:

“There could be information out there on cell networks that would give an indication as to where they (Kai and the caretaker) are or, perhaps, where they have been. And I think there are certain scenarios that, certainly, the police can access that information. And there are times where the private sector can access similar information as well.”

vancouver.citynews.ca

Burnaby boy's disappearance still brings more questions than answers over one month on

More than a month has passed since the reported disappearance of an 11-year-old Burnaby boy, and his family is still searching for answers.
vancouver.citynews.ca vancouver.citynews.ca

I'm guessing the PI refers to cell phone data and/or surveillance cameras. The question is, is the information still preserved months later?
 
  • #64
This is a month old video with a couple of small details:

When asked if he was in danger, police said that the boy's family told them it wasn't unusual that Kai was with the caregiver.

A PI interviewed stated that the billboards were a good idea, but they came too late.

 
  • #65
It is an interesting, although short video, @indicolite22.

This means that Kai was staying with that caregiver, maybe a few times before his disappearance. That must be a person whom the family trusted enough to leave a child with, but something went wrong. Perhaps that person was making certain plans, but behaved in a friendly manner to gain the family's confidence.

But this is MOO. It is so strange that there is no news after 2 months of Kai's disappearance. I hope he will be found safe.
 
  • #66
alexina said:
It is an interesting, although short video, @indicolite22.

This means that Kai was staying with that caregiver, maybe a few times before his disappearance.
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If you listen to the video closely, you'll notice that the officer says "Kai's family has told us that" he was staying with the unidentified caregiver, etc.

Police are not saying that they, themselves, know that information to be true.

IMO, in addition to calling this caretaker 'unidentified', I would also call them 'alleged', but obviously police are not yet taking that leap.

JMO
 
  • #67
How this went so quiet? I wonder how the family who should be in charge of Kai in Canada is not really in the focus? On other cases we see some reaction or investigators discussing them but here, to me, it looks all so quiet. Hope that is only is for me...
 
  • #68
Darling136 said:
How this went so quiet? I wonder how the family who should be in charge of Kai in Canada is not really in the focus? On other cases we see some reaction or investigators discussing them but here, to me, it looks all so quiet. Hope that is only is for me...
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I fully agree. I can't imagine how frustrating not knowing if Kai is okay several months later must be for his extended families overseas. It's hard to believe that the authorities' hands would be tied. Surely by releasing the legal guardians' identities more people could come forward with useful information. This is no custody dispute. IMO, Kai's safety is seriously in doubt.
 
  • #69
Aren't Canadian authorities known for keeping things under wraps until they are ready to release info? I'd like to think a lot is happening behind rh scenes here.
 
  • #70
I don't get why there is no update on Kai's disappearance yet. From September till now...
 
  • #71
PromotedPawn said:
Aren't Canadian authorities known for keeping things under wraps until they are ready to release info? I'd like to think a lot is happening behind rh scenes here.
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Families, on the other hand, don't have to operate covertly. If they had something to say about their missing 11 year, the media would be all over it.

JMO
 
  • #72
Snoopster said:
My best guess, reading between the lines, is that Kai's mother, who Kai had gone to live with, is not saying where Kai is, but simply saying that he is safe with 'someone else'. And, yes, this sounds like shades of Lori Daybell. All just my opinion. I may have misinterpreted what is actually going on behind the scenes.

So what is the mother's name and the stepfather's and why haven't police released that information? Wouldn't that be helpful for the public to know if LE is asking for assistance?
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And Casey Anthony
 
  • #73
alexina said:
It is an interesting, although short video, @indicolite22.

This means that Kai was staying with that caregiver, maybe a few times before his disappearance. That must be a person whom the family trusted enough to leave a child with, but something went wrong. Perhaps that person was making certain plans, but behaved in a friendly manner to gain the family's confidence.

But this is MOO. It is so strange that there is no news after 2 months of Kai's disappearance. I hope he will be found safe.
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Moo I would think that you would be able to contact this caregiver if they often have your child.
 
  • #74
This just seems SO unacceptable that the mother can't produce the child and prove that they are safe!
 
  • #75
Cedars said:
Families, on the other hand, don't have to operate covertly. If they had something to say about their missing 11 year, the media would be all over it.

JMO
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Families did what they could, IMO. I've been following this case on SM, but there hasn't been any official or unofficial news since the police announced they would put up billboards about Kai’s disappearance. It's mind boggling that the parents don't have to prove to the authorities that he is safe.
 
  • #76
indicolite22 said:
Families did what they could, IMO. I've been following this case on SM, but there hasn't been any official or unofficial news since the police announced they would put up billboards about Kai’s disappearance. It's mind boggling that the parents don't have to prove to the authorities that he is safe.
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Yes - I meant parents, not extended family.
 
  • #77
indicolite22 said:
It's mind boggling that the parents don't have to prove to the authorities that he is safe.
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If a child is missing ie snatched off the street, or had an accident, etc., parents can't prove the child is safe. And they can't be forced to prove it, just like if someone's spouse is missing, they can't be forced to prove their husband or wife is safe.

Like any missing person case, police investigate and look for evidence. Like all cases of missing spouses, they look at close family members as suspect. But they need evidence to charge anyone, with anything.

JMO
 
  • #78
Cedars said:
If a child is missing ie snatched off the street, or had an accident, etc., parents can't prove the child is safe. And they can't be forced to prove it, just like if someone's spouse is missing, they can't be forced to prove their husband or wife is safe.

Like any missing person case, police investigate and look for evidence. Like all cases of missing spouses, they look at close family members as suspect. But they need evidence to charge anyone, with anything.

JMO
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Lori Vallow was ordered to present her missing children to police in five days or prove they were ok. After failing to comply, she was arrested.
 
  • #79
indicolite22 said:
Lori Vallow was ordered to present her missing children to police in five days or prove they were ok. After failing to comply, she was arrested.
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I think this depends on if the state has something that says they can get arrested. I feel like most states don’t have this written in anywhere
 
  • #80
indicolite22 said:
Lori Vallow was ordered to present her missing children to police in five days or prove they were ok. After failing to comply, she was arrested.
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True, but she wasn't arrested until 3 months later...

I believe LE had, by that point, unravelled the whole conspiracy and felt confident about what she and Chad had done. IMO LE had no illusions she was actually going to tell them where JJ was safely hidden. I think they were planning to monitor her and Chad's calls, hoping they would slip up and say something incriminating.

IMO, it would not be good policing to lock up parents who might later turn out to be completely innocent. Some public perception is already strong that police don't care about grieving parents or missing murdered (not by parents) children...

JMO
 
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