If you go to 31:17 of the Crimewatch report then you have an image of what I assume is her bedroom. You can see no curtains and smoke damage up the one window. Without lining everything up, I assume the passer by has seen the flames from here. It's interesting how isolating the fire was from this image also. Nearby furniture undamaged, even clothes just with smoke damage. It looks like a fire was started in the middle of the furniture by the window, whether that is a bed or sofa I am unable to tell.
UK UK- Joy Hewer, 50, Teacher/church volunteer, sexually assaulted & fatally stabbed in chest, apartment set on fire, Walthamstow, 17 Oct.1995 *REWARD*
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Looking for something else, stumbled onto this pic., probably too young to be the poi in Joy's case, but something about him.. so posting here just in case, speculation, imo, fwiw.
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Police have issued a CCTV image of a man they want to speak to
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CCTV released after rape in Banbury alley near nightclub
A 20-year-old woman was attacked in a side street after leaving a Banbury nightclub.
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The man in the CCTV seems to have quite a hunched or stooping back, and also seems to be wearing quite a formal shirt. My first impression was somebody probably older than 35, maybe in his 40s or 50s. Certainly not a youth.
I was going to say CCTV man looks to me like he has pretty bad forward head posture (tech neck). It might be a trick of the camera, or him leaning towards the intercom though.
The light shirt/jacket is something which makes no sense as an outfit for a rapist, knife murderer, arsonist, or clean up man after the event.
The light shirt/jacket is something which makes no sense as an outfit for a rapist, knife murderer, arsonist, or clean up man after the event.
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IIRC the recent appeal said the man was in his 30s.
If he was local, then I'm amazed nobody has recognised him, even from just the back of his head.
My GUESS is that some names have probably been put forward for that CCTV guy. Police have DNA though so I assume it’s either been the wrong names OR names of people who have since passed away. I just can’t imagine NO ONE recognising the man from that image?
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The unsolved murder of a Walthamstow teacher found stabbed in her burning flat
Joy Hewer was found with stab wounds by firefighters who only came because of a fire in her Walthamstow flatwww.mylondon.news
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''On the day she was murdered, she had volunteered at the London Healing Mission in Notting Hill until 3.30pm. She was next seen stopping by a chemist at 5.50pm before heading home to the Wood Street area.“
The quoted info in the article above does make me believe that the late night visitor was someone she knew of that she’d likely spoken to earlier in the day. Either at the London Healing Mission or perhaps bumped into him after leaving the chemist? I speculate he may have said he’d drop around later and she WAS expecting him but NOT as late as he actually arrived. The only other thing I can think of is that someone she knew to some degree followed her home from either the healing mission or the chemist, to find out where she lived. In that scenario though they would probably not know exactly which apartment she was in within the block.
Joy was very involved with the Healing Mission, but also volunteered at her local church in Walthamstow.
The church did a lot of charity fundraisers, so there's potential for someone from out of the immediate area to have known her through involvement with one of the charities.
A tower block in Walthamstow doesn't seem like the sort of place a random commuter rapist type would prowl. Unless he had connections to the area (or Joy, who lived there her whole life) from many years earlier. I wonder if the police looked at pupils of hers from twenty years earlier etc.
The church did a lot of charity fundraisers, so there's potential for someone from out of the immediate area to have known her through involvement with one of the charities.
A tower block in Walthamstow doesn't seem like the sort of place a random commuter rapist type would prowl. Unless he had connections to the area (or Joy, who lived there her whole life) from many years earlier. I wonder if the police looked at pupils of hers from twenty years earlier etc.
It's frustrating how little is known about Joy's background. She had lived in the area her entire life, and was never married, but had she been in relationships in the past?
Had she always been involved with the church? Had she taken a personal vow of celibacy? Would she have welcomed some male attention or been horrified by it?
Joy's family said she wouldn't have let someone into the flat, but an adult woman probably wouldn't tell her brother or nephew if she did ever have male visitors, would she?
The state of the flat (with washing on display) and the dressing gown Joy was wearing make me suspect that she wasn't expecting a special visitor at that hour.
Had she always been involved with the church? Had she taken a personal vow of celibacy? Would she have welcomed some male attention or been horrified by it?
Joy's family said she wouldn't have let someone into the flat, but an adult woman probably wouldn't tell her brother or nephew if she did ever have male visitors, would she?
The state of the flat (with washing on display) and the dressing gown Joy was wearing make me suspect that she wasn't expecting a special visitor at that hour.
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Yes, why would Joy tell her relatives about her personal life? Especially male ones. I find that very unlikely. Did she not have any close female friends?
Most adults probably have a few things they keep private!
Agree re washing on display etc - unless the visitor was someone Joy was very comfortable and familiar with in which case she might not have cared about detail like that. Maybe this person has come over on other occasions.
A random prowler/rapist type could get into the block, but why would he target Joy's flat on the sixth floor?
The police would have said if other residents had encountered a man at their front doors, so Joy's flat is the first one he attempts to gain access to.
The killer ignores at least 15 flats before reaching the sixth floor, and then just happens to choose at random a flat occupied by a lone female?
Sounds unlikely to me, although stranger things have happened. I reckon he knew or had heard one way or another, that a kindly woman lived there alone - or in other words it wasn't a stranger attack.
The police would have said if other residents had encountered a man at their front doors, so Joy's flat is the first one he attempts to gain access to.
The killer ignores at least 15 flats before reaching the sixth floor, and then just happens to choose at random a flat occupied by a lone female?
Sounds unlikely to me, although stranger things have happened. I reckon he knew or had heard one way or another, that a kindly woman lived there alone - or in other words it wasn't a stranger attack.
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I'm glad Joy's sister and niece haven't given up hope.
I liked the comment: "We're jolly well going to crack it this time you know".
If Joy's relatives ever read this thread, then my message is not to give up. I understand the frustration with the police investigation, but rest assured that there are some good civilian researchers now looking at the case.
I liked the comment: "We're jolly well going to crack it this time you know".
If Joy's relatives ever read this thread, then my message is not to give up. I understand the frustration with the police investigation, but rest assured that there are some good civilian researchers now looking at the case.
It's interesting that the possibility of the CCTV man following someone else into the block is mentioned in the video. I wonder what that theory is based on. If the man wasn't buzzed into the block, then it would really reduce the likelihood of Joy knowing him.
It's also interesting that Joy's sister suggests that CCTV man might have been there to assist someone else. Again I wonder what that theory is based on. Very few offenders would have someone willing to assist them in such circumstances, so an accomplice scenario really reduces the potential suspect pool.
It's also interesting that Joy's sister suggests that CCTV man might have been there to assist someone else. Again I wonder what that theory is based on. Very few offenders would have someone willing to assist them in such circumstances, so an accomplice scenario really reduces the potential suspect pool.
the obvious starting point would really be to look back at any similar offences within that area in the run-up to this one
this clearly seems to be a sexually motivated offence - this is NOT an entry level type crime therefore the perp will almost certainly have done something similar previously
the lack of familiarity with the locality could very easily have been a ruse to deflect away from someone very local indeed
i am sure the answer must lie within that local area and in the local reporting of cases of a similar nature or M.O
this case must be very solvable
this clearly seems to be a sexually motivated offence - this is NOT an entry level type crime therefore the perp will almost certainly have done something similar previously
the lack of familiarity with the locality could very easily have been a ruse to deflect away from someone very local indeed
i am sure the answer must lie within that local area and in the local reporting of cases of a similar nature or M.O
this case must be very solvable
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But how would he know Joy was a single woman alone in her flat, and why choose her flat specifically? And why would she have let him in?
I think she must have known him.
I'm clutching at straws a bit, but..
Got lucky and chanced upon a lone female occupant?
Had prowled the block in the past, and knew roughly who lived where?
Didn't know Joy, but had heard about a kindly/gullible/financially generous woman who lived on the 6th floor at St Davids Court?
Tried to get into other flats, but this information was held back by the police?
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It's all possible of course.
And shouldn't be ruled out. Someone could have followed her. Maybe even spoken to her in passing.
The fact that she let him in though - it feels like she must have known him. But we don't know.
I also think that people never know their relatives or friends as well as they think they do. Joy might have been seeing or talking to the killer before. Adults do have secrets. I'm not saying as a romantic liaison/ relationship but as a friend or a healer or prayer partner or something else. Intimacy can have different forms. So, she let him in.
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A neighbour, or somebody who sometimes visits them? speculation.
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