Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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MassGuy said:
The biggest thing was the whole "snatched from her bed" thing that the media ran wild with. He later walked that back, saying that he didn't mean that literally (he even referenced the mess that caused prior to a particular presser).

He was also late in shooting down the rumors regarding Savanah's sister and brother in law, allowing them to take hold for many hours before responding.

He's gotten better as time has gone on, but it was a rocky start.
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To be fair.....I don't think he's gotten better but that could be my bias coloring me since I've sat through his stuff before on different issues locally.
 
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Van Helsing said:
That's Amazing that she lived there since her early 30s. I guess SG grew up in that community.
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in looking at SG and her life she is very well known in Tucson and visits as often as she can.
 
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I have an idea for how LE could get proof of life. They make a copy/clone of the pacemaker app that's on NG's phone and email it to the perps (using the email address from the ransom note). The perp installs it (on a burner phone?) and allows it to sync with NGs pacemaker. Not only does that show she's nearby, it will collect data (heart rate?) proving she's alive (which would be transmitted to her Dr normally). The only problem is that it could be used as a tracker (especially if FBI added a tracker to the app) and perp might not want to risk it. But they could drive to a temporary location to do the sync, then quickly get out of there and ditch the device with the app on it. Maybe someone who knows tech better than me could judge if this could work.
 
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thefragile7393 said:
To be fair.....I don't think he's gotten better but that could be my bias coloring me since I've sat through his stuff before on different issues locally.
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lol. In this case, “gotten better,” means not sticking his foot in his mouth as much.
 
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Magic8Ball said:
None of us can divine the reasons why POTUS has devoted extra federal resources (I suspect there's more than one), but I'm sure we can ALL come together in agreeing that it's a huge plus, and whatever the reason may be for his actions, the effect this will have on the investigation is a positive one.

It's okay to say he's done a good thing here, even if you don't agree with or like the man.

JMO.
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I have my suspicions of why but they are neither here nor there. It IS nice that it was done at least. That's not something I would have expected especially the way he treated her as moderator of the debates in the past.
 
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turaj said:
per the christmas photo SG children are still young..early teens maybe? Unless that photo is really old
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But SG lives in NYC, not some remote, rural place. Much harder to pull off a kidnapping of teens+ for many reasons.
 
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MassGuy said:
I was watching it with someone else, and I was describing what they were doing as the video was playing. I actually said “wait for it,” before they got to the direct message to the abductors.

This was a prototype of how I would do it.

You play to their emotions first, because if you do it backwards it is much less effective. This was for the abductor, not for us.
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Right, you said something which made me realize something I've been feeling muddy about:

Whether the note is real or not, the abductor is definitely real!

They might even think that implying that the note is real will encourage the abductor to make contact, if only to say "I didn't write that note!"

Messed up psychology of someone who does a crazy crime but also wants to get caught.
 
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MassGuy said:
lol. In this case, “gotten better,” means not sticking his foot in his mouth as much.
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bwhahahahahahahahah I love you!
 
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An observation from a long time WS'er have we ever had 200 pages/3,995 posts in one thread? Is this something knew?
 
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Cardgame said:
Right, you said something which made me realize something I've been feeling muddy about:

Whether the note is real or not, the abductor is definitely real!

They might even think that implying that the note is real will encourage the abductor to make contact, if only to say "I didn't write that note!"

Messed up psychology of someone who does a crazy crime but also wants to get caught.
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Yeah, it works on many different levels. Personally, I don’t believe the person who did this would care about the emotional element, but it could cause stress seeing all this coverage, which skyrocketed (amazing that’s even possible), following that video.

You’re turning up the heat
 
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SlimPickens said:
Not disagreeing, but I'm skeptical that law enforcement would put the family through a production like that without some kind of viability as to its legitimacy. Would be a cruel thing to do to them, IMO.

"Hey you know, we don't really have anything at all, but just in case do y'all want to make a video for us on the outside shot someone wants something for her?"

JMO.
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It's also possible that the family were discouraged from doing the video and that the FBI made it clear to them that they didn't believe that the ransom communications had legitimacy. But then, if Savannah Guthrie looked at the FBI agent in the eye and asked if they could 100% guarantee that the ransom notes were not legitimate, then we know that no LE could say that for sure. And so the family would have insisted then that they had to do it, for Nancy's sake. How could they live with themselves if they didn't take it seriously and it really was legitimate? At that point, the FBI could only help them make the most out of the video with targeted messages inserted into the video.

JMO
 
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LAborn said:
But SG lives in NYC, not some remote, rural place. Much harder to pull off a kidnapping of teens+ for many reasons.
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An elderly person living alone in a relatively isolated, and dark location is an easy target.
 
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turaj said:
per the christmas photo SG children are still young..early teens maybe? Unless that photo is really old
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according to wikipedia, she had the children in 2014 and 2016 so they are 11 and 9 (looks like their birthdays are later in the year)

moo
 
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turaj said:
agree AB report did not help them.
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I knows these reporters are trying to get the best scoop, but I believe the naming of a potential suspect should be left to law enforcement.
 
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Regarding the cameras-if at least one of them was cloud based, would the perpetrator have to know which camera was NOT and enter that way and remove it, and either avoid or somehow disarm the cloud based ones before being visible on them?
 
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MassGuy said:
The biggest thing was the whole "snatched from her bed" thing that the media ran wild with. He later walked that back, saying that he didn't mean that literally (he even referenced the mess that caused prior to a particular presser).

He was also late in shooting down the rumors regarding Savanah's sister and brother in law, allowing them to take hold for many hours before responding.

He's gotten better as time has gone on, but it was a rocky start.
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I mean, I know the guy was hired to be a cop, but now part of that job is handling the media and knowing what to say, and when to say it. Dude made some mistakes but I think in light of all of this, we need to give him a little grace.
 
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bestill said:
An observation from a long time WS'er have we ever had 200 pages/3,995 posts in one thread? Is this something knew?
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apparently so. :(
 
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I like the sheriff. He made some mistakes, but I think it was because he knew she was taken against her will -- meaning she didn't wander off due to dementia -- but did not want to reveal specifics about the crime scene given it was an active investigation. JMO.
 
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Seems to be, yes.
bestill said:
An observation from a long time WS'er have we ever had 200 pages/3,995 posts in one thread? Is this something knew?
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Seems to be, yes. :confused:
 
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