Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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KellySleuth said:
FWIW, Harvey Levin said that at the time TMZ received the first ransom, the broken floodlights were not public knowledge.
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There were so many reporters flying drones there. Someone could have noticed the floodlights in a live video of some sort, before they were mentioned by the media explicitly
(Edited a typo)
 
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GooseyPie said:
I have a feeling that SG knows that AG is involved with this and is going along with this ransom charade. SG seems very angry and distant towards AG, meanwhile AG is looking terrified and hyperventilating.
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Wow that’d be so difficult. I can’t imagine being even somewhat cordial to someone so close to me if I were aware of something like that. I don’t think she knows, or believes the rumors. If true, I bet it will destroy her, a second time. MOO
 
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Cassie P said:
I have a similar question. Why is the family making public videos if they are going to pay the ransom? Why not keep it a private transaction?
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Nobody really knows why this has played out on Instagram. It's been speculated it is because this is the only mode of communication with the perpetrator or perpetrator has asked for communications to be made this way. But now if there is suspicion on SG's family members, perhaps it adds to additional public pressure.
 
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Cassie P said:
I have a similar question. Why is the family making public videos if they are going to pay the ransom? Why not keep it a private transaction?
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The videos may be their only way to communicate with the abductors. Also, although they stated in the last video that they will pay, they still are asking for her to be returned to them. They weren't asking for proof of life any longer, they just want her back.
 
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birdbox said:
Have you ever watched "To catch a predator"
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Yes. US laws are very different to those in my country re: entrapment, that is why I acknowledged my understanding may be different.
 
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Cassie P said:
I have a similar question. Why is the family making public videos if they are going to pay the ransom? Why not keep it a private transaction?
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My thoughts/ideas:
1) It's at the perp's request (more attention seeking behavior, likes the power)
2) There's no other option since perp didn't provide the means to communicate directly (which would give LE more hints to their identity)
MOO
 
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Cassie P said:
I have a similar question. Why is the family making public videos if they are going to pay the ransom? Why not keep it a private transaction?
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I have an idea. Maybe LE has suspected them the whole time and this video making has given them access to the home and they they say, "hey we noticed something off mind if we look around?" I think the cops know it wasn’t a kidnapping. They are going along with these videos to gain access to Annie’s house without a warrant. “Sorry no leads yet, but you think we can swing by again today do another video and give you some updates”
 
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Summerliz03 said:
I find it hard to believe if SIL and AG are involved, that they would be able to send these ransom notes without it being figured out by LE before now. Especially since it involved the bitcoin account and IP encryption. I feel like her death may have been heat of the moment if it was SIL/AG, so it seems off that they could throw together an elaborate ransom situation that quickly. I don’t know. This case is really crazy. So now I’m leaning towards the ransom notes not being really connected.
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I have a new angle to look at. Maybe the newest ransom note identifies things in Annie’s house, as in the kidnappers have been in there too at one point in preparation for this crime, and they are trying to find DNA evidence etc. Just a thought
 
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zecats said:
Wow that’d be so difficult. I can’t imagine being even somewhat cordial to someone so close to me if I were aware of something like that. I don’t think she knows, or believes the rumors. If true, I bet it will destroy her, a second time. MOO
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Could it be possible the siblings are being separated at all times, with the exception of creating the Instagram videos? Under the guise of nobody being ruled out at this stage? So it would not be too difficult to simply record a short video with her?
 
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birdbox said:
I have an idea. Maybe LE has suspected them the whole time and this video making has given them access to the home and they they say, "hey we noticed something off mind if we look around?" I think the cops know it wasn’t a kidnapping. They are going along with these videos to gain access to Annie’s house without a warrant. “Sorry no leads yet, but you think we can swing by again today do another video and give you some updates”
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There is no way they entered AG's house last night without a warrant, imo.

jmo
 
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KellySleuth said:
FWIW, Harvey Levin said that at the time TMZ received the first ransom, the broken floodlights were not public knowledge.
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It also said where the watch was and was specific IIRC

I would be shocked if they didn't at least google to see if that was public info at that time and before they went public with the letter on Tuesday.
 
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Cassie P said:
I have a similar question. Why is the family making public videos if they are going to pay the ransom? Why not keep it a private transaction?
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Only way to communicate with ransom demanders. Please keep our mom safe…we will pay…and may need time to gather resources in order to pay.
 
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LRinCA said:
I believe it's been confirmed that it was Nancy Guthrie's blood.

  • Blood - blood was found on the front porch of Guthrie's house. DNA analysis has confirmed the blood belongs to Nancy Guthrie, but officials are awaiting results of further DNA testing
www.bbc.com

Police found blood on porch belonging to news anchor's missing mother

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos says no suspect or person of interest has yet been identified following the disappearance of 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
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But nothing indicates it was recent blood. Could have been old and there were no footprints in it either
 
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Catching up with everything that has happened over the weekend. Has anyone heard what LE/FBI were looking at in the garage? Other than keeping a car in the garage, some homes have a laundry room/work sink in their garage, attic storage, etc.
 
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Black eyed pea said:
Catching up with everything that has happened over the weekend. Has anyone heard what LE/FBI were looking at in the garage? Other than keeping a car in the garage, some homes have a laundry room/work sink in their garage, attic storage, etc.
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Tools too.
 
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Sorry—that quote was not supposed to be in my post! But I did want to say that we get notices when our ring camera detects someone at the door. Even if it was disconnected at 147 am NG still should have gotten a notice that someone was there (maybe??)—yet no movement was detected until 212. Far fetched theory but maybe she went to investigate-the perp was expecting that (even with the 1/2 hour delay) and grabbed her when she went to investigate. I always thought the motion detector picked up people coming to get her but maybe it was her going to see what was happening? Idk. Another piece of the puzzle missing I guess. But if it was the front door that was unlocked then this works. And if it was only a short activation of the motion detector that could be why-I guess. Would also explain the blood (eg did she cut herself on the doorbell?). Personally I prob
Would have called someone but she seems to be pretty independent…….
 
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Inthedetails said:
I don't think it's routine either.

fwiw.

jmo
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I think it was an attempt to finally rule out or rule in the SIL rumor which at this point may be a red herring that has been taking waaaayyy too much police time. Eliminate him or tighten the knot. jmo He's not involved.. MOO
 
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Napoli said:
I think it was an attempt to finally rule out or rule in the SIL rumor which at this point may be a red herring that has been taking waaaayyy too much police time. Eliminate him or tighten the knot. jmo He's not involved.. MOO
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It looked like they were doing luminal testing, which, imo, is far beyond what is done to rule someone out. My opinion.

But, time will tell. I hope it's not family as that would be absolutely torture on top of the heartbreak.

jmopinion
 
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GooseyPie said:
I have a feeling that SG knows that AG is involved with this and is going along with this ransom charade. SG seems very angry and distant towards AG, meanwhile AG is looking terrified and hyperventilating.
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I agree. The emotion from AG could be for herself. The realization that she or partner/husband are still under scrutiny. A more self serving emotion...sadness or fear... or maybe she is/was unaware that someone close to her is/was involved and now she knows and it's guilt. IMO, her partner/husband is involved possibly with others. The event of what was to come totally unknown to AG and that realization brought out this emotion finally. We know SG was very close to her mom and supposedly AG was too but to what extent we do not know and her brother CG, we know very little about him or his part in any caregiving of NG
 
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Maybe they had NG Uber to their house because they were going to get her tipsy, they knew she wouldn’t be able to drive home. When they got to NG’s house they tried to get her to sign something or change her will or write a check but she wouldn’t do it. Things got out of hand and NG was injured. Panicked they loaded her into her own car and disposed of her.
 
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