• #17,321
OMG!!!
Why have LE allowed the public to continuously blame the family? This man is obviously not TC.
 
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Looking at the image is nightmare scary. I can’t imagine what it would be like to wake up and see that in your house late at night. Poor Nancy. So horrible.
 
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To me, the whole aura is definitely MALE.
Brian Entin says he is sure that suspect has a moustache as well.
Maybe a beard too?I see under his lips, looks dark?he also seems to be bald the way his hat fits,doesn't seem to be a full head of hair, very round looking
 
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I know one thing, there isn't a mother or girlfriend/wife alive that won't recognize their son's/partner's eyes regardless of masks, makeup, etc.

This guy is only hours from being identified in my opinion
 
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Not to be that person, but if a question was already answered (like there being a flashlight in the guy's mouth) could 15 other people not say the same thing/take the time to read posts?? I know it's not a rule/I'm not a moderator LOL.

But most posts are repetitive now and we're missing discussion of some important points people are making...

For example, unless you actually have a strong reason to disagree on it being a flashlight, maybe don't make a post JUST commenting on that and summarize several points of yours in one post?

Sorry don't hate me! I agree this is very scary and upsetting and we're all reacting as such
 
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That backpack is pretty full.

This was not a robbery.

He came for Nancy.

MOO
Noticed the backpack was full, too. Definitely not a robbery. What would be in the backpack?
 
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On NBC News live, talking about how the person is identifiable by someone who knows them, and someone who recently purchased a mask, gloves, jacket, etc
 
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Maybe a hair-brained idea to block the camera?
If he was trying to block the camera you'd be right. It was a harebrained idea.

I do not believe for one minute that's what he was doing. For one, it's not a good blocker, for two, he would have grabbed them from the get-go, yet he clearly stood there getting filmed, and then went back to pick them. Lastly, harebrained or stupid is not terms I'd use to describe this person. This took a lot of planning and preparation, and he's apparently versed in how to pull off an abduction to get millions in bitcoin.

JMO
 
  • #17,330
This creep MUST have a driver. Can't drive w all the disguises and layers of stuff
i don't think he is alone
 
  • #17,331
Slow and deliberate. He knew what he was doing, was confident that even an unanticipated camera wouldn't stop him for long, and most importantly, that he had the virtual non-threat of an 84 year old woman inside. ☹️

JMO.
Not sure he knew what he was doing completely..... he thought taking the camera would prevent images being recorded/saved.
 
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A professional but he grabs flowers to block the camera? He didn't bring tape?
It really looks to me as though he's holding the latanas with meaning as if to display them. it's spooky even.

1. if he wanted to block the camera, his hand in heavy nitrile type gloves would do and would have been quicker
2. the placement of the flowers in the frame, and holding a mini flashlight in his mouth does not jive with an attempt at blocking


or it could be some clumsy move by an amateur after all, weird vibes even after these pics, just so wonky
 
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My video/photo analytics suck. Does anyone see any hint of communication devices? Wire? Anything?
 
  • #17,336
To me, one of the most unique characteristics of this unsub is the holster/gun. The placement right in front of the groin is very very distinct in my opinion. Never seen that in my life. Hope LE will go to local gun ranges and ask about folks who use that set up/type of gun. Also, he does reach for the gun/holster to adjust/confirm it's stable i think. Sort of an involuntary motion. MOO
 
  • #17,337
Did they specify the time of these videos? Was he coming back to stage the scene on the porch? Or was this pre-break-in?
 
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New images in the search for Nancy Guthrie: Over the last eight days, the FBI and Pima County Sheriff’s Department have been working closely with our private sector partners to continue to recover any images or video footage from Nancy Guthrie’s home that may have been lost, corrupted, or inaccessible due to a variety of factors - including the removal of recording devices. The video was recovered from residual data located in backend systems. Working with our partners - as of this morning, law enforcement has uncovered these previously inaccessible new images showing an armed individual appearing to have tampered with the camera at Nancy Guthrie's front door the morning of her disappearance. Anyone with information, please contact 1-800-CALL-FBI or visit http://tips.fbi.gov
Wow
The image sure gives the FBI something to work with on identifying certain aspects of him.
Height?
Is that skin showing around eye holes?
Manufacture/brand name of backpack? etc?
Gun manufacturer?
Was the FBI sitting on this image?

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He preplanned this and brought a backpack yet he had to use plant material for the front camera. Why didn’t he just bring a piece of tape and cover it up? What does this say to us?
Seems young-ish to me. The clothing, the way he walked, etc. Just a guess.
 
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