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Omg you guys were right with the plant debris!

Edited to add-why is he doing that? To cover camera?
Me wondering about the flowers -

If he/she was trying to use the flowers to provide additional concealment of their face, did they not know or anticipate that NG had a doorbell camera? If they knew prior to arrival that there was a camera, why didn’t they bring something with them to either further conceal their face or cover/spray the camera so it wouldn’t capture images?

Where were the flowers prior to being used here? Were they in a wreath on the door, in a pot/container by the door or did they have to pick/cut them from the yard? (IIRC someone previously said they were in a garden lining the walkway?) If they weren’t already by the door and they had to pick/cut them before they approached the door, it would seem like they took a chance assuming there weren’t other cameras that would have caught them doing this and alerted NG to their presence. Either way, it seems to point to poor planning, although the outfit and other elements of the crime do seem well planned.
 
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well to be fair, Nanos did say in that one presser that people shouldn't be pointing fingers as people who could be victims.

agreed though, i did compare pictures and the eyes aren't a match IMO

moo
Bbm.
Did you have a link for the bolded ?
I can check around myself, too.
Tia.

It would be helpful if Sheriff Nanos would just make a statement clearing the family.
Everyone would focus elsewhere then.
Makes it look as if he's not certain yet ?
Imo.
 
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I am left-handed but shoot, throw, bat right-handed. Not the norm but there are other ambidextrous people out there.
 
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IMHO and I'm not an expert but the lashes appear to be those partial lashes to me.


I only heard of them recently as someone was wearing them and I asked them what mascara they used and they told me they were partial lashes.
I remember those from when I was younger (very creepy seeing mom take them off), and it is quite possible that this is all part of a disguise. There are layers of clothing there, and how better to look "innocent" after you've committed a crime while wearing one outfit than to change into different clothes?

Opinions. All opinions.
 
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I just saw this on my IG one minute ago and I am freaking out> WHAT IS HAPPENING
 
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One thing is certain, the person responsible is definitely not feeling very comfortable right now.
 
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Surely the chances are he’s local to narrow identifying him.
I hope the spotlight is taken away from the SIL now.
This. I can't imagine the hell they are going through - the whole family + him - not only are they worried sick over her but if nothing is ever found - the suspicion and repercussions he/AG would have to live with could be pretty negatively life altering.
 
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Weird he covered with the flowers but had already looked directly into the camera.
and he walked up to the door with his head down, yet looked directly at the camera much closer up... 🥴

moo
 
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Is open carry legal in AZ?
 
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Dang those pictures are scary. I’m not one that scares easily but dang
 
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This is the feature that stands out most to me. Lots of space between inner eyelid and bridge of nose. Eyes have a very distinct shape and are very wide. Lots of space between eyebrow and eyeball too. Very uncanny
IMO
And the eyes look HUGE IMO
 
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What do you think those bright lights behind the suspect are? A house? It's late for a house to be so lit up.
I believe that they are reflective patches on top of the shoulder belts of the backpack. Some backpacks that have them are intended for bicycle riders at night so that they can be more visible to oncoming cars.
 

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Surely the chances are he’s local to narrow identifying him.
I hope the spotlight is taken away from the SIL now.
It has been for me.
 
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Nancy Guthrie latest updates: FBI releases 1st surveillance images from night of disappearance​


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Savannah Guthrie and mother Nancy Guthrie on the set of the "Today" show in 2023; and new surveillance photo on Guthries porch of suspect.
(Photo illustration: Yahoo News; photos: Nathan Congleton/NBC via Getty Images, FBI.)
 
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For me, it is a data point that helps rule out the SIL.

The SIL would have known about the door camera and come prepared for it. It's obvious from the video that the actual perp noticed the camera as he approached the door and then had to freelance a response to it.
I'm not sure what to make of it at all. I think it is possible he had disabled the internet before approaching the door and then was surprised when he saw the Nest camera recording light come on (I have a Nest door bell cam and the light starts blinking or turns green or something when it notices motion)... this is the point where he tries to smash it with his fist and then goes to grab flowers. Doesn't seem like a professional. Doesn't seem like a handyman/someone who works on her house either-- why not just kill her and leave her if there was a dispute over money or something. Seems targeted for sure though.
 
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Can someone do a good screen grab of the backpack? I can't seem to get a good one
 
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Video is near the end for those who want to view it.

So many questions! To me, this brings obsessed fan higher on the list of possibilities. NG was featured a lot on SG’s show. Good way to get SG’s attention.

But how did this person get inside the home? There was no sign of forced entry. And yet, did they seem surprised by the camera?
in the last video shared by FBI, it was before all the other ones. He approaches the front door with his head down, as if he knew it was there or at least spotted it pretty quickly. IMO
 
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