Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

jbennett said:

I do have a pool and this is the first place my mind went when I saw them cleaning the pool.

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Yes, and like a regular vac. the debris is caught in the pool filter or filter basket.

Moonchime said:

It's truly disheartening to think it may be years before Nancy Guthrie is found. Sheriff Nanos shouldn't sound so resigned already. While it's realistic to acknowledge she may not be alive, his public statements should prioritize hope and determination. I wish he'd been more reassuring to the family and the public that every effort will continue until she's brought back home. MOO

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I’m hoping it’s a bluff and that they have solid leads still. Maybe they’re trailing a suspect and trying to make them feel comfortable. We’ve certainly seen that technique before in other cases before an arrest. Perhaps it’s someone they’ve already interviewed but didn’t have the evidence to arrest them.

I just don’t think LE is resigned at this point at all. Not in this case, at least. Fingers crossed.

Napoli said:

That would imply that she was monitored inside her home..her movements etc. Since a huge amount of falls happen in the bathroom, that would imply she was viewed even while in the bathtub or shower or?? NO ONE HAS EVER SAiD SHE HAD A LIFE ALERT BUTTON SHE WORE., FOR EXAMPLE. That would be much more practical and far less intrusive than 24/7 cameras in her kitchen. Not buying it. HELL, no one was even paying for her Nest camera doorbell subscription! Now, we are supposed to believe she had cameras all over the house recording her every move? no way. MOO

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My Mom had cameras and was fine with it, with one exception. She did not want cameras in her bathroom or bedroom. We covered by entrances, the main living areas and her office. There was sound though so, if she fell, she could call out.

What do you all make of the silence since last night? Is it a trip, stumble, and fall? Or is this turning out to be something much bigger that necessitates the silence?

SMK777 said:

WTAH???

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022814782705820000

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Baffling! He had to have more than a goatee and two eyes to name him as a poi. Was that the guy who looked like the artists rendition?

Sundog said:

It is my understanding from reading other comments on this thread that NG had an Apple watch that has an emergency alert option, so she would not have needed a life alert device. IIRC, jmo.

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Excellent point! My Samsung watch has a fall alert, too. I am notoriously clumsy and I got it during Covid when I was home alone so much, and my husband was traveling. I felt someone needed to be alerted if (when) I fell.

Turkeytrot said:

I believe they're referring to this, not GPS

Brian Entin on X: "Investigators have used what is called a “signal sniffer.” It is a small device that was sent in and attached to the Sheriff’s helicopter. It can detect Nancy Guthrie’s pacemaker signal. The helicopter has to stay low and move slowly for it to work." / X https://share.google/mxW2QD92ltQ5HRdBI

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So some of the air traffic people have questioned could have been NG related.

Donswife48 said:

I'm not familiar with the area, but there have been posters that say there are many abandoned mines in the area close by. Maybe they just took her there instead of buried. JMO

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Indeed.

As well as mines in the mountainous areas around Tucson, there are likely numerous crevasses to dispose of a body so it is never found. I agree sadly, that NG was likely gone by early 2/1. IMO.

"The mountain ranges near Tucson... are:

1. ...Catalinas Mountains
2. Huachuca Mountains
3. RIncon Mountains
4. Santa Rita Mountains
5. Tucson Mountains

...The Santa Catalinas, the Rincons, the Santa Ritas, and the Tucson Mountains... surround Tucson, the Huachuca Mountains are approximately 85 miles south of Tucson. Additional mountain ranges in the vicinity of Tucson are the Tortolitas and the Sierritas."

It would be nearly impossible to search that vast amount of mountainous areas.

I think it was encouraging to watch the Nanos interview to hear tech companies still working on some of the videos!

warp3dwing said:

I’m hoping it’s a bluff and that they have solid leads still. Maybe they’re trailing a suspect and trying to make them feel comfortable. We’ve certainly seen that technique before in other cases before an arrest. Perhaps it’s someone they’ve already interviewed but didn’t have the evidence to arrest them.

I just don’t think LE is resigned at this point at all. Not in this case, at least. Fingers crossed.

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No way that a guy who tried to use brush to cover a camera committed the perfect crime.

As Roger Rabbit said,

I just don’t believe it!
I won’t believe it!
I can’t believe it!
I shan’t believe it!

I think it's a bluff.

Vaderman said:

What do you all make of the silence since last night? Is it a trip, stumble, and fall? Or is this turning out to be something much bigger that necessitates the silence?

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I'd say they are non stop trying to analyze and waiting for results on what they do have so far. It's that waiting game. We're just used to watching them where we can SEE them or hear about the latest as it was fast paced if along for the rides. IMO

Vaderman said:

What do you all make of the silence since last night? Is it a trip, stumble, and fall? Or is this turning out to be something much bigger that necessitates the silence?

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Good question. It has been very silent.

mikenikes said:

They think the car he was driving was used in the commission of the crime but apparently he just bought it 2 days ago or something

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Interesting. Cars get a deep cleaning before they are sold usually.

I was wanted to try learn more about history of such crimes as we are seeing now in the Nancy Guthrie case and came across a segment from Inside Edition that covered the terrifying kidnapping cases of Delia Rollek, 74, and Heddy Braun, 88, in 2014 and 2003, respectively. Both amazing women not only shared words of support and strength to NG but also mentioned how they were targeted by perps who previously done work in their homes, knew they lived alone and likely targeted them for the potential financial gain they could yield by holding them for ransom. This did make me wonder if such similarities could be found in the case of NG, particularly if she was targeted in the case she was targeted by someone who, like many in Tucson, not only was aware of she was the mother of the acclaimed SG but was also quiet familiar with her home but not because they cased it but because they were part of a crew that did some type of infrastructural work on it recently? Maybe that previous work experience may explain which cameras and lights they were aware of and thus chose to disconnect or destroy, how they planned to make their entrance and exit into the home and how they knew beforehand about the plants they could use to block the Nest camera instead of bringing something of their own to do so beforehand.

It looks like surprisingly there is a lamp still standing and intact behind the front door of the house which may imply they were familiar enough with the home that they could presumably carry or drag NG through it without knocking over stuff but that is JMO and not trying to accuse or single any group or occupation out.

Just a thought.

mikenikes said:

They think the car he was driving was used in the commission of the crime but apparently he just bought it 2 days ago or something

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I keep seeing this being said in here but is there a source for it? Thanks!

Eli9 said:

Not who you tagged but hope this helps.

Nancy Guthrie: Pool Cleaners Show Up at Her House Amid Police Probe

12:39 PM PT -- Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos tells TMZ ... the Guthrie family requested the cleaners come by to maintain the pool.

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"We reached out to the pool company .. they say they've never had a client at that address."

ETA I see I have shocked @BenjaminJAndersonAlly with this post. This is just clarification that a different pool service company was called to clean NG's pool rather than her usual contract.

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Thank you so much!

SlimPickens said:

The warrants the FBI assisted with in the Delphi case were state warrants issued by state judges.

RL Warrant

JMO

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I don’t think I said otherwise? My point was that FBI themselves obtained the warrants for a state-level crime. If what you said was correct, they would not have the ability to enforce state-level crimes and therefore would not be able to seek a search warrant for state crimes. They are, and do. They can choose whether to take it state or federal as long as it’s a violent crime that falls under the IAVCA.

JMO

tricia said:

Can you please put a source up for this being a new company?
Thank you

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I posted this earlier. It was from CNN. I'll go back and find my post.

SUNchips said:

I keep seeing this being said in here but is there a source for it? Thanks!

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No, I believe it is just the opinion of people interpreting the police actions...

JMO