Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

Arkay said:

Lol I just wrote about this a few posts above yours!
Sad that we have to start thinking about this.

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That is a very good thought, a sad thought, but important to be observant!!

OldCop said:

What if it also has Nancy’s DNA on it?

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Excellent idea! Bingo

Cassie P said:

Thanks, so we are just guessing that he somehow removed it?

Yes most people have doorbells with cameras these days? Older people get these things as gifts from the kids and grandkids who insist we use them.

Yes that is what is puzzling about Lantana Man. He is unprepared for a camera at the front door. Despite the fact he is committing a capital crime and could face life in prison or the death penalty. I would think he would do his homework.

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Yes, LE have stated the doorbell camera was removed. The mount for it was still on the doorframe until this last week when they finally removed it.

I just don’t think this guy was a mastermind. As I mentioned in another comment, he was dressed like perps in a hundred movies and tv shows right down to the backpack. That doesn’t really mean he knew exactly what he was doing. His bumbling on the porch furthers that theory imo.

if they kidnapped her I'd venture to think they tied her hands and gagged her. Could she even be fighting in the car? I don't think that she would have had ability in the car to do much ... could be they threw her in the trunk as well. Gosh awful thoughs

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Cassie P said:

Thanks, so we are just guessing that he somehow removed it?

Yes most people have doorbells with cameras these days? Older people get these things as gifts from the kids and grandkids who insist we use them.

Yes that is what is puzzling about Lantana Man. He is unprepared for a camera at the front door. Despite the fact he is committing a capital crime and could face life in prison or the death penalty. I would think he would do his homework.

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i think more likely he was surprised that the camera was showing signs it was still working because he thought it had been disabled earlier. JMHO

jtfolden said:

Yes, LE have stated the doorbell camera was removed. The mount for it was still on the doorframe until this last week when they finally removed it.

I just don’t think this guy was a mastermind. As I mentioned in another comment, he was dressed like perps in a hundred movies and tv shows right down to the backpack. That doesn’t really mean he knew exactly what he was doing. His bumbling on the porch furthers that theory imo.

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Right. He was just the hired hand while the “boss” sat comfy behind his computer watching Harvey Levin talk about him.

Amateur opinion and speculation

lda216 said:

yes! as frustrating as this case is, I keep thinking of all the info that has NOT been released (what was found in the house; any additional video recovered; probable cause for warrants; maybe even communication that hasn't been made public) and hoping that the investigation will make sense once it is completed.

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That is very true.

Diddian said:

The only thing that I could imagine to explain NG opening the door at a late hour (only to be punched in the nose and led away), is a young woman knocking on her door shortly after NG arrived back home and claiming that a package was misdelivered there and she is there to collect it. That is, it would have to be a nonthreatening-appearing person asking for a moment’s help for an easy to resolve routine problem between neighbors (I.e., package misdelivered).

But I think that the later after 10 pm it got, the lower the likelihood that NG would be responding at the door to help, no matter who it was there.

We are told that NG’s pacemaker disconnected from her app sometime after 2 am.

So in this supposed scenario, they’d have to keep NG there at the scene for hours after the ruse at the front door and the punch in the nose.

I’m still not clear on the disconnect between pacemaker and app. Was it connected all the time from 9:50 until the disconnect after 2 am? OR, did it just not connect at a regularly scheduled time of roughly 2 am. The difference matters.

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The pacemaker would not connect unless NG was very close by at a scheduled time such as 2 AM for instance

loves2readhistory said:

Too many posts like this—I came here looking for not gossip but that seems to be half the posts…

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Please report posts like that. @tricia and co are happy to pull the unsubstantiated gossip.

Stunned said:

IMO it should be unacceptable for professionals everywhere!

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I'm having a real uncomfortable feeling about searchers just throwing their gloves away. WTH. Were these searchers LE?

Dotta said:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023155530433274289

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"Democratic Rep. Alma Hernandez slammed amateur reporters and internet sleuths for camping outside Nancy Guthrie's home since news broke of her disappearance
(pictured on Sunday)."

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How are they interfering with what is going on. There is nothing going on.

SlimPickens said:

We do know that he has a competent enough skillset to invade a home, kidnap a victim without much of a trace (if any) to date, and that he has evaded detection by a literal army of law enforcement for about 15 days so far. This is not a naive or stupid person. Evil, yes, but not a dope.

JMO.

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I haven’t seen anything that suggests an unusual skill set. It’s not hard to break into the average home at all. If NG had been paying for a storage subscription for all her cameras then we would know exactly how he got in, what he did to her, and how she was removed, not to mention what car was used to do it. That’s not genius on his part, that’s just bad luck for her. He’d likely have been caught by now.

There are countless missing person cases where bodies are later recovered months or years later from spots within mere feet of prior search areas or crimes scenes. So it’s hard to give him credit for too much so far.

Cindizzi said:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023101856495575189

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They didn’t tow the car at Rio Rico stop—
They didn’t take samples form it

They towed the car at the Culver’s stop because they DID take samples from it—and it has to be further examined and kept until results come back that disqualify it as used in kidnapping or confirm it was used.

Similar cars in some respects (colors, blac rims, shape) but maybe not similar reasons

I have seen varying reports but Sheriff Nanos said the first "pair" of gloves they found was 2 miles away.

Timestamp: 5:50

Stunned said:

Maybe because she pulled a mask off? IMO

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The Scooby Doo ending?!

(sorry!)

I had not earlier known it, but at about 0:10 in this drone video of NG’s home, one can see sliding glass doors leading from the home to an enclosed courtyard at a front corner of the home (opposite side of house from the garage).


The room just inside there appears to have a chimney, so a fireplace. I would expect the main living area to be adjacent to the back courtyard of the home, so wonder if it is NG’s bedroom located next to this smaller courtyard and if these sliding doors may have been an entry point for the perpetrator(s).

SlimPickens said:

But we also aren't a criminal who contrived a home invasion and kidnapping (and likely a digitally anonymous ransom demand), and one who clearly had the foresight to dress adequately for the occasion. This almost certainly wasn't his first rodeo, and if it was he checked a lot of boxes.

JMO.

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I strongly disagree. This looked like it was his first rodeo.

1. Didn't anticipate a very easily anticipated doorbell cam. $4 can of Krylon spray paint, instant recording disabling, instead of fumbling with latanas.

2. Open carries a late gen frame semi auto in cheap pistol holster (if it was even a real gun). Why not conceal and take it out when you need it? Puts his life at risk with awkward carry and non-profiled holster.

3. Wears bulky gloves that render proper use of firearm useless (can't even get finger in trigger guard, can't properly draw).

4. Distinguishable features on backpack - leaves brand logo, wears reflective strips know to shine on IR so any camera system.

5. Didn't even try to gray-man up or go practical all black and full face mask (which would be much less distinguishable on the IR Nest footage.

6. After all that clumsy attempt at PPE he uses a freakin' mouth light that transfers saliva. D'oh.

7. Disconnects the camera, instead of covering it. Thus making his image the last scene on a non-sub Nest server. Otherwise it would be re-written in the time cycle.

There's probably more...

I've said before this seems like some edgy teenager's attempt at playing kidnapper. All this above stuff had something "lost in translation."


We don't know if he was connected to ransom note at all (many experts now don't think so). We don't know if carried out a home invasion or kidnapping. We simply saw him approaching a front door on cam footage and doing petty vandalism. He could have been a look out, distraction, a part of a crew who did the actual dirty work, or a single bumbling fool that killed NG in his attempt.

As for if he pulled off the crime if it was him (probably was of course). Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. The house is a complete blindspot, secluded, dark no real cams, no neighbor sight-lines, and the mark is a 84 year old lady living alone w/ medical issues and a hearing aide.

imstilla.grandma said:

Nearly 16 gloves were collected near her home, and most of them were used and discarded by searchers at the site, the FBI told the Daily Mail.


One of the gloves is different from the rest and appears to match the ones the unidentified masked captor was wearing in the doorbell video captured at Nancy's front porch, the FBI said.

Officials are awaiting confirmation on DNA of an unknown male profile that was lifted from the glove. Results usually takes about 24 hours to come back, the agency added.

Nancy Guthrie case could be 'burglary gone wrong'

No one has seen or heard from Nancy Guthrie in two weeks. The 84-year-old mother of Today Show host Savannah Guthrie was taken from her home in Tucson, Arizona, on February 1.

www.dailymail.co.uk

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That is absolutely disgraceful that professionals law enforcement who were searching for clues have just discarded their rubber gloves in to a suburban area.

The trash must look awful, and that's without the danger to wildlife.

But surely it actually causing more potential evidence?! You're looking for thrown away gloves, but you're throwing yours away as well??!

What were the thinking?! How is that behaviour acceptable?!

tbgo said:

Didn’t they just say cameras were also inside the home

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Internet cut, cut cable leading to house.

J MO

Fargo said:

No, I mean now that it's known the FBI is using a sniffer to try to locate NG's pacemaker someone might be concerned enough to remove it. IMO

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Removing a pacemaker would be a major ordeal. The insertion of one creates a 2-2.5 inch incision and the leads are connected to the heart’s arteries. (1 or 2 leads) Probably would leave a bloody trail behind.