Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

LivvyL · Feb 15, 2026

Diddian said:
I had not earlier known it, but at about 0:10 in this drone video of NG’s home, one can see sliding glass doors leading from the home to an enclosed courtyard at a front corner of the home (opposite side of house from the garage).

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The room just inside there appears to have a chimney, so a fireplace. I would expect the main living area to be adjacent to the back courtyard of the home, so wonder if it is NG’s bedroom located next to this smaller courtyard and if these sliding doors may have been an entry point for the perpetrator(s).

Yes, I’d guess the bedroom(s) are located at the opposite end from the garage. I also wondered about the sliding doors there and how much could be seen into a bedroom there.

Cassie P · Feb 15, 2026

SaraSmile said:
Saliva, Yes, good strong DNA. Plus touch DNA on wrist, maybe, where skin touched( even if 2 pairs), or touched wrist area while putting on gloves, also Good DNA
JMO

My eyes about popped out of my head when I saw this guy with a bite light in his mouth, rubbing against his inside cheek, and swimming in salvia. When he pulls the light out with his gloves those gloves will be DNA rich.

This is how the DNA ancestry companies test for DNA. Cheek and saliva swabs.

louvillian08 · Feb 15, 2026

penguinface said:
Unless that other camera also has local storage capability. Also WiFi could have been fixed after NG’s disappearance had been discovered.. it’s not like getting someone out at the weekend is beyond SG’s means. I’m not saying the WiFi was definitely disconnected, just thinking aloud some possible ways the facts could still fit if it had been.

JMO

But the suspect took the camera. So the wifi would have to be reconnected before the camera was removed in order for the footage to upload

stmichael · Feb 15, 2026

SlimPickens said:
We do know that he has a competent enough skillset to invade a home, kidnap a victim without much of a trace (if any) to date, and that he has evaded detection by a literal army of law enforcement for about 15 days so far. This is not a naive or stupid person. Evil, yes, but not a dope.

JMO.

So many assumptions. Kohberger was a dope who drove his own freakin car to the scene and left a leather sheath of the murder weapon w/ his own DNA and it took nearly two months to arrest him.

We don't know what this guy did for his skillset. All we saw him do was awkwardly approach a home without anticipating a doorbell cam which he awkwardly covered with brush and awkwardly disabled while using a mouth light that transfers saliva. All the footage implicates him with was petty vandalism.

Dopes get lucky all the time. Sometimes its better to be lucky than good. See it in many cases over time.

penguinface · Feb 15, 2026

SaraSmile said:
Yes, memory only here, someone theorized She was killed, removed earlier ( between 10-2), it was thought, maybe this Porch person was assisting on the staging to look like a kidnapping.

Someone even mentioned putting “blood droplets”, that part seemed far fetched, hard to do.

Good ideas to mull over.

I’m not a believer in this theory, but it was interesting.

JMO

If the person on the porch was “playing the part” in a staged/fake kidnapping, I don’t think he’d have been so concerned (or concerned at all,) about the camera. He, and the supposed people he’s been sent by, would want his Oscar-worthy performance preserved for all to see.

JMO

Stunned · Feb 15, 2026

Forest_Wood said:
This makes me wonder if he couldn't drive properly with the gloves on. Or perhaps he was trying to restrain NG in the vehicle and they got in his way. They seemed thick and awkward. And pondering what would he do with his layers of clothing and shoes? He took great precautions to not leave DNA, but then what does one do with all of it?
MOO

Maybe NG threw the glove out of the car? IMO

loves2readhistory · Feb 15, 2026

WizPro said:
How are they interfering with what is going on. There is nothing going on.

raja said:
I’m

i think more likely he was surprised that the camera was showing signs it was still working because he thought it had been disabled earlier. JMHO

Some cameras show a light when they have power—doesn’t depend on if they have subscription or not—ours does and we have no subscription

K9Enzo · Feb 15, 2026

mickey2942 said:
Vultures

I am sure that I am not the only one who has thought about this, but I wonder if LEO has been monitoring vulture behavior in the area. They are the largest scavenger bird in the area, and often gather to scavenge on dead carrion in area.

I’m certainly not giving my opinion that vultures won’t scavenge humans remains but they zero in on familiar food sources such as road kill, natural wildlife deaths, these critters are familiar to them. A human body is not natural in their environment (of course). Would they notice, yes, but they are cautious.

Also, when people see vultures circling, they are often in their own territories and riding a thermal and conserving energy while they scan. They are amazing creatures (bald faces to withstand the bacteria) and the natural clean up crew that we often don’t think to appreciate. IMO

Diddian · Feb 15, 2026

Cassie P said:
My eyes about popped out of my head when I saw this guy with a bite light in his mouth, rubbing against his inside cheek, and swimming in salvia. When he pulls the light out with his gloves those gloves will be DNA rich.

This is how the DNA ancestry companies test for DNA. Cheek and saliva swabs.

Let’s hope it is what gets Mr. 007 here caught and NG returned to those who love her.

rosiebean · Feb 15, 2026

WizPro said:
How are they interfering with what is going on. There is nothing going on.

I would say that the nonstop barrage of YouTube reporters, bloggers, and even mainstream media reporters clambering for clicks (and trying to be the first to post "breaking" news that is nothing more than sensationalized BS) are doing nothing to help with what's going on. The breathless "SWAT teams are gathering in this neighborhood!" for example would give a potential perp a head's up that they need to dispose of evidence, depart the premises, etc. That's just one example. The media blitz is unrelenting and, IMO, not at all helpful (and this is coming from someone with a background in media).

SaraSmile · Feb 15, 2026

Diddian said:
To me, it looked like the backpack was still stuffed with the tissue/packing paper the manufacturer or distributor stuffs it with to demonstrate the bag’s large volume as it sits on Walmart’s shelf before purchase.

No, it had his tools for the job at hand.

JMO

stmichael · Feb 15, 2026

So right now the DNA is being identified as an unknown male AND hasn't been run through CODIS yet?

Anyone have any decent links to this? TYIA

stmichael · Feb 15, 2026

SaraSmile said:
No, it had his tools for the job at hand.

JMO

Yep. We call it a "kit"

duct tape, zip ties, tarp, plastic sheathing etc.

burglars also have kits but not as filled out as that 25L back pack was. Usually on their person and more compact. But expanding on that that's another odd detail, like the dude packed his cheapo backpack so full it was almost ripping at the seams (and could have ripped at the seams being a $15 WalMart pack).

Cassie P · Feb 15, 2026

SlimPickens said:
We do know that he did enough homework and preparation to both dress the part and successfully execute the crime in which he set out to do, and that he had enough foresight and planning to evade detection and capture up to this point, but we don't know that he didn't anticipate that particular camera. More specifically, he could've anticipated it, and perhaps even knew about it and thought he had disabled it, but the fact that it was still working is what surprised him.

To me, it doesn't look like he really even cared much that it was working, because he didn't exactly flinch or freak out. He was pretty 'ho hum' in trying to ameliorate the inconvenience from what I saw.

JMO.

Yes I agree, he could have thought he disabled it. But didn't do his homework on how to exactly do that. But yes he did have the wherewithal to do all the things you list. And yes he seemed fairly nonchalant about all of it.

I just posted a comment about one stupid thing he did. Put a bite light in his mouth. With DNA rich saliva and cheek cells all over the light which he pulls out with his gloves.

But yes he did some things right, made some mistakes, and perhaps had some luck.

loves2readhistory · Feb 15, 2026

Was on Google news and saw WRONG info in a headline for PBS article. The headline has same wrong idea some posters on here had about the gloves found in the field and sent for DNA analysis.
The headline said the DNA matched the suspect at the front door—THAT IS WRONG INFO. The GLOVES look like the gloves the person was wearing at the front door.
The story does not make the same wrong connection.
I sent an email to PBS comments to correct==
Just validation that even reputable news media can make mistakes to get attention—whether it was deliberate (I hope not) or not—it is still wrong!

Glove found near Guthrie home with traces of DNA appears to match those worn by masked suspect

The glove, discovered in a field beside a road, was sent for DNA testing. The FBI said in a statement that it received preliminary results Saturday and was awaiting official confirmation.

www.pbs.org

WizPro · Feb 15, 2026

FYI: Right now. Robins R-44 Helicopter. Related??

Sakura2Sophia4Lucia · Feb 15, 2026

Nikynoo said:
I do wonder whether the backpack was full because he had burgled other premises before reaching Nancys? However, imo the backpack did not seem heavy and seemed to have a bulky item in it.

He might have had a tarp in it as well as whatever he used to smash the back yard light.

Sakura2Sophia4Lucia · Feb 15, 2026

loves2readhistory said:
Was on Google news and saw WRONG info in a headline for PBS article. The headline has same wrong idea some posters on here had about the gloves found in the field and sent for DNA analysis.
The headline said the DNA matched the suspect at the front door—THAT IS WRONG INFO. The GLOVES look like the gloves the person was wearing at the front door.
The story does not make the same wrong connection.
I sent an email to PBS comments to correct==
Just validation that even reputable news media can make mistakes to get attention—whether it was deliberate (I hope not) or not—it is still wrong!

Glove found near Guthrie home with traces of DNA appears to match those worn by masked suspect

The glove, discovered in a field beside a road, was sent for DNA testing. The FBI said in a statement that it received preliminary results Saturday and was awaiting official confirmation.

www.pbs.org

Even NYT had something wrong and I did the same thing - sent them the correction and cited LE as the source. JMO

SMK777 · Feb 15, 2026

loves2readhistory said:
Was on Google news and saw WRONG info in a headline for PBS article. The headline has same wrong idea some posters on here had about the gloves found in the field and sent for DNA analysis.
The headline said the DNA matched the suspect at the front door—THAT IS WRONG INFO. The GLOVES look like the gloves the person was wearing at the front door.
The story does not make the same wrong connection.
I sent an email to PBS comments to correct==
Just validation that even reputable news media can make mistakes to get attention—whether it was deliberate (I hope not) or not—it is still wrong!

Glove found near Guthrie home with traces of DNA appears to match those worn by masked suspect

The glove, discovered in a field beside a road, was sent for DNA testing. The FBI said in a statement that it received preliminary results Saturday and was awaiting official confirmation.

www.pbs.org

Thanks for contacting them. You can't trust the news these days.

MrsEmmaPeel · Feb 15, 2026

jtfolden said:
Even if the WiFi wasn’t working (and it obviously was since the video footage we’ve seen was uploaded to Google servers) the doorbell would still have power. In fact the Nest can locally store up to an hour of footage if it looses connection to the internet.

It does appear to have been battery operated as well BUT we know another camera apparently detected motion several minutes after the doorbell had been disconnected so it doesn’t sound like wifi or power could have been cut.

@jtfolden I wonder if it is simple as the invaders had missed the doorbell cam in their efforts to avoid or subdue the home’s security system. Perhaps the cam was older, maybe something NG used mainly to see who was at the front door. (The NYT reports NG as saying she mainly wanted it to show her wildlife passing by. On a Nextdoor post) I’ve also read many homes have patchwork systems, added to over the years and independent of each other. Perps may have thought they’d taken care of security devices and then stumbled on the door bell cam, hidden deep in the entrance alcove. A shock. Especially when they planned to exit out front door.

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